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Hens Rescued from Abandoned Egg Ranch, Need Homes
Fox40 News ^

Posted on 03/06/2012 9:00:49 AM PST by GOPinCa

VACAVILLE— Animal rescuers in Vacaville are getting closer to adopting out thousands of chickens that were rescued last month from an abandoned egg ranch.

The hens were left for dead by Andy Keung Cheung, the owner of A&L Poultry, according to Stanislaus County Animal Services. Officials say most of the 50,000 hens were either dead or had to be euthanized because they were in such bad shape.

Animal Place in Vacaville is one of three rescue groups currently rehabilitating the hens that were deemed healthy enough for potential adoption.

Animal Place, Farm Sanctuary in Orland and Harvest Home in the Bay Area are all looking for donations and volunteers.


TOPICS: Agriculture; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: chickens; eggs; hens; rescuehens

1 posted on 03/06/2012 9:00:51 AM PST by GOPinCa
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To: GOPinCa
Thanks for teeing this up. I'll take one:
2 posted on 03/06/2012 9:02:56 AM PST by Adams (Fight on!)
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To: GOPinCa

I’ll bet Campbell’s Soup will give them all a home.


3 posted on 03/06/2012 9:03:57 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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To: ZX12R

I was going to say KFC, but yu are right, they are probably a bit thin for KFC, but Campbell’s could probably use them.


4 posted on 03/06/2012 9:06:33 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Adams

That’s delicious, but an egg every other day or so, absolutely rocks.

In fact, it is a miracle.


5 posted on 03/06/2012 9:08:23 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: GOPinCa

The honest-to-goodness truth of the matter is that the Chicken industry is nothing like it was just 20 years ago. 20 years ago, the breed of chicken we use for meat didn’t exist. Did you know that the chicken in your freezer went from hatching to slaughter in just 58 days. It has been designed to grow so fast, that it can barely walk, it has very few feathers, and is primarily breast meat.

The hens used for laying eggs are typically killed, and buried. Yup, buried - as is disposed of. Why? Because, like any industry, it’s designed to run millions of a particularily sized bird -and these old hens are simply too big for the machines.

That’s why your chicken is practically tasteless, and why you find every whole chicken within a pound of each other. You don’t find the ‘big birds’ anymore.

Now, don’t get me wrong - there is nothign wrong with butchering up an old laying hen; I’m sure they are quite tasty. But, the fact of the matter is that a vast majority of these hens wind up in a landfill - and not on a plate.


6 posted on 03/06/2012 9:09:19 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: GOPinCa
"Hens Rescued from Abandoned Egg Ranch, Need Homes "

Whew! For a minute there I thought that was a headline about the gals on the VIEW.
7 posted on 03/06/2012 9:12:46 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Hodar

Where did you get your information? All hens from laying farms go into chicken soup or other chicken products. There are none that are “killed and buried”.


8 posted on 03/06/2012 9:15:33 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: GOPinCa

Gee whiz...I’m looking to start keeping some laying hens in the backyard. I could use some free livestock. Not going to Californewchickens though.


9 posted on 03/06/2012 9:18:12 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberty is in danger. We are the generation. This is our role. Now is the time. Defend Freedom!)
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To: Adams

10 posted on 03/06/2012 9:22:54 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition
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11 posted on 03/06/2012 9:30:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GOPinCa

If I had the space, I would take a few.

I would love to have fresh eggs everyday.


12 posted on 03/06/2012 9:36:45 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: CynicalBear
There are none that are “killed and buried”.

I suggest you visit Arkansas where many are processed. Simply stated, the large-scale processing plants are designed for 'Broilers', not laying hens. The plants are largely automated, and the old laying hens are too large to run through the process. Again, have you priced what whole chickens costs at the grocery store? Now, figure in the cost they pay, and then backpedal for shipping, refrigeration, inspection and handling. You are looking at around $0.58/lb for a whole bird.

If you get Netflix, there is a fascinating documentary called "Food Inc." that deals with this 'problem'. The cost of chicken meat is so low (~$0.58/lb) that hand-processing the meat at $16/hr labor costs (including taxes, insurance, Soc. Security, Welfare, and misc. benefits such as sick leave and vacation) - that it's simply easier and cheaper to gas and bury. Yes, it's a shame - but look at the economics of the situation. How many "free" hens must be processed per employee, with an employee cost of $16/hr - to be able to sell that meat for $0.58/lb? That is the wholesale price (give or take). Why is the cost so high? Well, for starters it's dangerous work, lots of sharp knives around, secondly it's not pleasant work at all - in fact, it's quite unpleasant. Lots of turn-around and re-training of employees.

Let's see, assuming no breaks, trained employees, each processing 27.58 birds per hour. This assumes ZERO transportation costs, ZERO cost per bird (hens paid themselves off during laying), ZERO inspection, ZERO loss of birds during processing and your plant uses No power, is perpeturally clean and maintained free, and you got the plant as a gift ... This is where we are.

13 posted on 03/06/2012 9:37:05 AM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: GOPinCa

In other news:

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/03/05/obama-end-funding-for-snowflake-embryo-adoption-program/

Obama: End Funding for Snowflake Embryo Adoption Program

by Steven Ertelt | Washington, DC | LifeNews.com | 3/5/12 12:46 PM

President Barack Obama is seeking to end federal funding for a pro-life program installed during the administration of President George W. Bush that helped save unborn babies potentially slated for destruction in fertility clinics.

The “snowflake baby” program provided funding for adoption-awareness programs for the children who were formerly stored human embryos at fertility clinics who could have been destroyed for scientific research.

Congressman Chris Smith, a New Jersey Republican, was one of the strong proponents of the pro-life program, saying, “Assertions that leftover embryos are better off dead so that their stem cells can be derived is dehumanizing and cheapens human life. There is no such thing as leftover human life. Ask the snowflake children— cryogenically frozen embryos who were adopted—their lives are precious and priceless.”

The Obama administration proposes to defund the Embryo Adoption Awareness Campaign in its fiscal 2013 budget. As the Washington Times reports, “The Department of Health and Human Services “is not requesting funds for this program” because “the Embryo Adoption program will be discontinued in FY2013,” HHS officials said in a February funding report to Congress.”

Ron Stoddart, executive director of Nightlight Christian Adoptions, one of the top embryo adoption programs, told the newspaper he is disappointed with the decision, saying, “I think that daily we talk to people about … embryo donation and adoption, and we hear the response, ‘Really? I didn’t know that was even possible.’”

Mailee Smith, staff counsel at Americans United for Life, told the newspaper the decision is more evidence of “the pro-abortion slant of this administration.”

“Why would the Obama administration cut $2 million for adoption awareness, but keep $1 million a day for Planned Parenthood?” she said.

But the Obama administration claims there is “little interest” in the program.

Under one of the grants the program gave out, Bethany Christian Services, the largest adoption agency in the United States, partnered with the NEDC to provide a national forum for emerging issues related to embryo adoption and donation.

Jeffrey Keenan, MD, medical director for the National Embryo Donation Center, said the grants will also help his organization create a national clearinghouse for literature, media and electronic data currently available on embryo adoption and donation.

“We are pleased with the exciting work previous grants have allowed us to accomplish in increasing awareness about this important option for infertile couples, and we look forward to maintaining our leadership in this field,” Keenan said.

President Bush stood with the families of several babies who were born after embryo adoption when he vetoed a Congressional bill forcing taxpayers to pay for destructive embryonic stem cell research.

Known as “snowflake children” — each child is unique, like a snowflake — these babies adopted as human embryos are now healthy children no different from their peers.

“These families highlight the essential fact that human embryos are human beings deserving the full love and protections granted any child,” said Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

“We hear so often in the debate over embryonic stem cells that the harvesting of stem cells from embryos does not destroy a human life, and yet these Snowflake children prove otherwise,” Perkins explained.

There are an estimated 400,000 frozen human embryos in fertility clinics across the country. A study in September 2004 by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania and Rutgers University indicates that 84 percent of clinics throw out “extra” embryos created during in in-vitro procedures.

The study showed that 76 percent of clinics offered the adoption option; 60 percent, disposal of the embryos before freezing; 54 percent, disposal after freezing; 60 percent, donation for scientific experimentation; and 19 percent, donation for training doctors.

Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) says the Nightlight Christian Adoptions program is a way to “take these little children and give them the potential to live the rest of their lives as the gifts from God that they are.”


14 posted on 03/06/2012 9:39:52 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: GOPinCa

Paging Jeremiah Wright...Obama’s chickens coming home to roost.


15 posted on 03/06/2012 9:40:04 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: mbarker12474

Thank you for that.


16 posted on 03/06/2012 9:43:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Hodar

>> It has been designed to grow so fast, that it can barely walk, it has very few feathers, and is primarily breast meat.

Sounds like Megan McCain got all tangled up in this weird science, too.


17 posted on 03/06/2012 9:45:24 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Daffynition
That looks like the Merry-Go-Round at Poultry Park, Gainesville, Georgia....


18 posted on 03/06/2012 9:58:12 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Carterize Obama in November)
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To: Nervous Tick

I am sending you a clean-up bill via Freepmail for the processing of my clothes and computer.


19 posted on 03/06/2012 10:01:45 AM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: Nervous Tick

“Sounds like Megan McCain got all tangled up in this weird science, too.”

That is way too funny.


20 posted on 03/06/2012 10:06:27 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Most Conservative in the Primary, the Republican Nominee in the General.)
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To: Hodar

Yep. I read about this in Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat. If you want to see something really interesting, watch an old Julia Child show from the 60’s or 70’s that features chicken. On the one I saw, The breast meat barely covered her hand and is fairly thin, probably 3 oz worth of meat raw. I am pretty sure that the breast I ate over the course of last week had close to eight ounces of meat on it cooked.


21 posted on 03/06/2012 10:45:03 AM PST by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: Hodar

I suggest you visit a real poultry farm or egg facility and then a processing plant. I grew up on a farm by the way and had many friends who worked at the processing plant. I also owned a trucking company that hauled the “chicken slurry” and “chicken parts” that was made of old laying hens. The “chicken slurry” is made into nuggets for fast food restaurants and the chicken meat goes into chicken soup at Campbell’s etc.


22 posted on 03/06/2012 10:50:35 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Adams

NOW and “The View” can always use a few more hens.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 10:52:27 AM PST by DPMD
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To: GOPinCa
Another botched chicken abortion:

from Wikipedia (excerpt):

Mike the Headless Chicken

(April 1945 – March 1947), also known as Miracle Mike,[1] was a Wyandotte chicken that lived for 18 months after his head had been mostly cut off. Thought by many to be a hoax, the bird's owner took him to the University of Utah in Salt Lake City to establish the facts of the story.[1]

Beheading

On September 10, 1945, farmer Lloyd Olsen of Fruita, Colorado, United States, had his mother-in-law around for supper and was sent out to the yard by his wife to bring back a chicken. Olsen chose a five-and-a-half-month-old cockerel named Mike. The axe missed the jugular vein, leaving one ear and most of the brain stem intact.[2][3]

Despite Olsen's botched handiwork, Mike was still able to balance on a perch and walk clumsily; he even attempted to preen and crow, although he could do neither. After the bird did not die, a surprised Mr. Olsen decided to continue to care permanently for Mike, feeding him a mixture of milk and water via an eyedropper; he was also fed small grains of corn.

When used to his new and unusual center of mass, Mike could easily get himself to the highest perches without falling. His crowing, though, was less impressive and consisted of a gurgling sound made in his throat, leaving him unable to crow at dawn. Mike also spent his time preening and attempting to peck for food with his neck.[2]

24 posted on 03/06/2012 11:26:53 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: CynicalBear
How many years ago are you talking?

I'm talking about TODAY, not 10 or 20 years ago. Fast food accounts for a majority of the chicken that is processed today, and the demands required to meet the needs of McDonalds, KFC, Burger King and others dictate the way the industry is set up. Wasn't always this way, but that's the way it is today.

Chickens farmed for meat are called broiler chickens. Chickens will naturally live for 6 or more years, but broiler chickens typically take less than 6 weeks to reach slaughter size.[24] A free range or organic meat chicken will usually be slaughtered at about 14 weeks of age.

Source

6 weeks x 7 days = 42 days; I indicated 52 days, so I was off a bit. The reason they stick to this age, is to keep the SIZE constant; automation in the facitlity does not deal well with over-sized birds; in fact farmers get docked for bringing larger chickens in for processing - due to the havok it makes with the automated processes.

Again, we are talking about $0.58/lb of chicken. This is the market price set by the market - and again, because you obviously didn't read it last time; when your LABOR costs are around $16/hr you need every person processing >27 lbs per hour in order to just meet that price from the labor point of view. So, in the case of the laying hens - again - assuming we are talking about FREE birds, each dressing out to 5lbs each; each employee has to average >5 birds/hour to include slaughter, bleeding, plucking, gutting, and freezing to just keep your labor costs at that price.

Your past experience, while fine - and I believe you completely - is ... in ... the ... past.

I just got back from Arkansas Sunday night, I have family there - raising chickens hasn't changed in the past week. Layers are still being killed and buried - it's too expensive in labor costs to do anything else.

Again, the price per pound for chicken is $0.58. There is no way to process non-standard sized birds, and use automation to get the layers done in quantity - thus, these 'inferior' meat of the layers cannot be processed economically - and this is all based on economy.

The economy of scale is for the 7 week old chickens; that is what Tyson's production facility is automated to handle. Personally, I'd love to have these old birds used for soups, or even pet food. I'm opposed to wanton waste. But the fact is that the labor costs do handle these larger birds make it economically non-viable to do on a large scale. This is where you need labor to handle these birds - and people are simply not willing to pay more per pound, for a larger bird. I mean, given $15 to spend on Chicken for your family, would you buy 3 larger birds at $5 each, or would you buy 10.8 lbs of boneless chicken breasts (at $1.39) at Costco? Typically - most people buy the boneless chicken breast at Costco.

25 posted on 03/06/2012 12:53:37 PM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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To: Hodar

You just live in your fantasy world of burying chickens. I’ll remain in the real world where they go into pet food, soups, and nuggets.


26 posted on 03/06/2012 2:43:32 PM PST by CynicalBear
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