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Eel-like creature identified as 'earliest human ancestor'
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 3-5-2012 | Nick Collins

Posted on 03/06/2012 10:12:25 AM PST by Renfield

A prehistoric eel-like creature discovered in a Canadian shale bed has been identified as the earliest known ancestor of man.

Fossils dating back 505 million years preserve the relics of tiny, slithering animals which are the oldest life forms ever discovered with primitive spinal cords.

As the precursor of vertebrates the species is also believed to be the direct ancestor of all members of the chordate family, which includes fish, birds, reptiles, amphibians and mammals.

The finding means the 5cm long creatures, known as Pikaia gracilens, were the forerunners of animals as diverse as snakes, swans and humans, scientists said....

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: burgess; cambrian; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology

Fossils of Pikaia gracilens dating back 505 million years found in a quarry in the Burgess Shale, Yoho National park in Canada Photo: PA

1 posted on 03/06/2012 10:12:39 AM PST by Renfield
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To: SunkenCiv

Cambrian ping.


2 posted on 03/06/2012 10:13:29 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

Identified as an ancestor based on its resemblance to Democrats?


3 posted on 03/06/2012 10:15:49 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Renfield
slithering animals which are the oldest life forms ever discovered with primitive spinal cords.

Bingo...they hit the double jackpot....

slithering animals = democrats

primative spinal cords = GOP establishment.

4 posted on 03/06/2012 10:16:04 AM PST by spokeshave (Dole/McCain/Romney losers all....NEWT is da Man)
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To: Renfield

Interesting. There are a number in DC that are still at that stage of development.


5 posted on 03/06/2012 10:16:41 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Renfield
Goa'uld?


6 posted on 03/06/2012 10:16:54 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Sharon Fluke?


7 posted on 03/06/2012 10:17:13 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Renfield

‘earliest human ancestor’

LooooooooooooooooooL.....

On second thought....earliest known Democrat ancestor?

;-o


8 posted on 03/06/2012 10:17:16 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Renfield
It's seems that about every five years or so, "scientists" find something that they tout as the "earliest human ancestor".

Obviously the "researchers" are interested in extending their government grants, lest they have to actually work for a living.
9 posted on 03/06/2012 10:17:28 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

IBTHTPics


10 posted on 03/06/2012 10:17:28 AM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: Renfield


11 posted on 03/06/2012 10:18:15 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Renfield

The ‘truth’ is that we are ‘descended’ from every creature that ever was.


12 posted on 03/06/2012 10:19:35 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Renfield
Earlier related thread:

Inglorious beginnings: Experts trace humanity's origins to ancient worm

I'm NOT complaining about a duplicate thread, just adding a cross reference...

13 posted on 03/06/2012 10:20:37 AM PST by null and void (Day 1141 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: freedomlover
just barely


14 posted on 03/06/2012 10:21:21 AM PST by Mr. K (Were the Soviet-Era propogandists as gleefully willing as our Lame-stream Media?)
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To: spokeshave

LOL! Wish I’d thought of that....maybe would have used a different headline...


15 posted on 03/06/2012 10:21:24 AM PST by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Renfield

That we decended from this is fiction, of course.

There isn’t a single shred of evidence that indicates we evolved from anything. Nor is there evidence that any other creature jumped species and became something higher order.

But hey, science and the scientific method is for losers.


16 posted on 03/06/2012 10:22:58 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Renfield

Looks like a mobius eel.

Amazing fossils!


17 posted on 03/06/2012 10:23:02 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: Renfield

“Earliest pre-vertebrate” would be a more accurate, but less sensational, headline.


18 posted on 03/06/2012 10:23:33 AM PST by Joe the Pimpernel (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to behead anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Renfield
So the earliest human ancestor was a Canuck, eh?
19 posted on 03/06/2012 10:25:10 AM PST by Happy Rain ("Better add another wing to The White House cause the Santorum clan is coming.")
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To: Renfield
A prehistoric eel-like creature discovered in a Canadian shale bed has been identified as the earliest known ancestor of man.

MOOOOOOooooooooooooooo plop, plop, plop..........

20 posted on 03/06/2012 10:27:04 AM PST by varmintman
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To: Renfield
thomas baby
21 posted on 03/06/2012 10:30:22 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Renfield

My cousin, Pikaia Gracilens?


22 posted on 03/06/2012 10:36:06 AM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: RinaseaofDs

So that would mean that reason and logic are also for losers, since science depends on both.

You make a lot of assertions without backing them up.

But, then again, you think reason and evidence are for losers.


23 posted on 03/06/2012 10:36:45 AM PST by albionin
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To: Renfield

Once upon a time I would have argued...but having observed Eric Holder in action......


24 posted on 03/06/2012 11:16:10 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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To: UCANSEE2

The “truth” is that man did not “descend” from any animal.....


25 posted on 03/06/2012 11:29:12 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Texas Fossil
All joking aside about which Democrat this most closely resembles, you are absolutely right.
26 posted on 03/06/2012 11:34:11 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

27 posted on 03/06/2012 11:39:09 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Renfield

[[Müller stated, “The facts compiled also imply that the ancestor of all metazoans was a sponge-like organism.” Six years later, an international research group found in a “most comprehensive study” and “with a high degree of confidence” that the sponge “was not the ancestor of all other animals.”4 Even under the wrong paradigm, some evolutionists are getting certain pieces right when they follow the evidence where it leads. Led by researchers at the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München, the study found “that humans did not descend from a sponge-like organism.” It also suggested that “the nervous system only evolved once in animal history.”4 Creation scientists would clarify that human and animal nervous systems were created once during the six-day creation week just thousands of years ago.]]

http://www.icr.org/article/4754/

There you have it folks, the ‘facts’ show we’re related to sponges! No- wait a minute, We’re realted to eels... Woops, noope, we’re realted to bananas-

[[Where did the early protochordates come from? In 2006, four evolutionists had a fancy way of admitting they did not know: “Despite their critical importance for understanding the origins of vertebrates, phylogenetic studies of chordate relationships have provided equivocal results.”7 Today, conflicting secular stories compete over vertebrate origins. Since there is no evolutionary pattern inherent in any biological information, Genesis must be accurate. God created kinds to reproduce after their own kinds. We can trust our origin (and destiny) to the One who was there “in the beginning.”]]

hmmmm- chordites just appeared on the scene and a link between protochordite and chordite can’t be established? But yet, we’re suppsoedly ‘related’ to chordites? Where’s the direct evidence showing a progression fro m chordite to man? Oh, there isn’t any? Then what the hell are scientists claiming an eel is our ancestor for then if they have NO FACTS connecting us?

Apparently they just need more government funding- must be nice getting paid whopping amounts of money to sit in a cozy lab and ‘argue’ with other folks about ‘facts’ that turn out to not be facts!!!!!


28 posted on 03/06/2012 12:10:47 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop

We’re related to all God’s creatures.


29 posted on 03/06/2012 12:24:49 PM PST by null and void (Day 1141 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

got any evidnece to sho that macroevolution is a fact?


30 posted on 03/06/2012 12:37:49 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Renfield

There is such thing as the theory of Evolution, there’s just a long list of creatures Chuck Norris allows to live ...


31 posted on 03/06/2012 12:42:51 PM PST by Scythian
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To: CottShop

Yep. A common genetic heritage. The proof is written in every single gene in your body.


32 posted on 03/06/2012 3:33:43 PM PST by null and void (Day 1141 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Renfield. Does this mean we taste like chicken? Because I'd always heard we were indistinguishable from pork.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


33 posted on 03/06/2012 7:21:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this FReepathon!)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Do you star as that guy living under a rock in the Geico commercial?


34 posted on 03/06/2012 10:45:54 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Renfield

My hovercraft is full of them.


35 posted on 03/06/2012 10:48:19 PM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Renfield
Let's eat it.
Or, maybe I could marry it?
36 posted on 03/06/2012 10:54:39 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: dfwgator; humblegunner; Markos33; Salamander; Allegra; TheOldLady; JoeProBono; Slings and Arrows



"You vant to go to my place? Bouncy-Bouncy?
(My nipples explode with delight!")


37 posted on 03/07/2012 2:17:05 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: dps.inspect

Wrong slut. (It’s Sandra.)


38 posted on 03/07/2012 2:21:08 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: shibumi
Family is often embarrassing.
39 posted on 03/07/2012 2:23:17 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Renfield; All

;-)

40 posted on 03/07/2012 5:15:23 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: albionin

I was being facetious.

Sorry you couldn’t pick that up.


41 posted on 03/07/2012 9:27:25 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

“Do you star as that guy living under a rock in the Geico commercial?”

No. I star as the engineer and business owner that is being run out of business by bad science and even poorer journalism. I star as the guy being facetious.


42 posted on 03/07/2012 9:29:52 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Slings and Arrows

My Flukeing bad...


43 posted on 03/07/2012 11:36:08 AM PST by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Renfield

Probably a collateral branch.


44 posted on 03/07/2012 4:11:23 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Mr. K

OK, that was totally uncalled for, and an insult to slithering creatures everywhere.


45 posted on 03/07/2012 4:15:28 PM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I apologize. I really couldn’t tell because that’s just the kind of thing I hear creationists say all the time and It’s something I have to respond to. I don’t generally go onto the threads about religion and creationism but
this was a science thread and I find science intensely interesting. I have been told so many time that science is to be dismissed but faith is to be accepted without question. Well I think reason and logic are the essence of human morality and I will always jump on what I perceive to be an anti-reason statement. Again I apologize for jumping on you.


46 posted on 03/08/2012 9:57:45 AM PST by albionin
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To: Texas Fossil
The “truth” is that man did not “descend” from any animal.....

True. I was using the term 'descend' in a different way. I was referring to the fact that we are all a product of all the animal and plant life forms that have been on the Earth. Everything 'eats' something else that was an animal or plant.

Speaking of different 'ways', isn't it odd that they say man 'descended' from the apes, when they actually mean 'ascended'?

47 posted on 03/08/2012 12:13:08 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: shibumi
words fail me


48 posted on 03/08/2012 1:36:15 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: albionin

Completely understand and I empathize.


49 posted on 03/08/2012 3:34:46 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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