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BYU study: Guns don't give people advantage during a bear encounter
Deseret News ^ | March 8, 2012

Posted on 03/08/2012 10:58:38 PM PST by Zakeet

Conventional wisdom isn't always based on common sense, and sometimes isn't even based on real data, especially when it comes to animals of mythological proportions like bears.

BYU wildlife biologist Tom Smith wants to change that.

A new study suggests that one of the most commonly suggested deterrents against bears in the wild — guns — actually won't protect people any better than not using a gun.

"It really isn't about the kind of gun you carry,” he said. “It's about how you carry yourself. We need to respect an animal that could potentially take our lives."

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This isn't the first time Smith has had a study showing that guns aren't as effective against bears as generally believed. In 2008, Smith released a study saying that bear spray is more effective than guns.

Part of the problem is that shooting accurately is very difficult in a terrifying situation like having a giant animal charging at you. Even if you do kill the bear, that's still a problem, given declining populations and the the loss of what a bear can contribute both economically and ecologically.

"It's a conservation issue in that we'll see needless bear mortalities," Smith said.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bear; guns; hunting
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To: goat granny

Strange goat....

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81 posted on 03/09/2012 6:58:49 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Zakeet

82 posted on 03/09/2012 7:15:35 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Zakeet
The crux of the problem is this:

"Part of the problem is that shooting accurately is very difficult in a terrifying situation like having a giant animal charging at you."

What this really means is that most folks carrying a gun in bear country have not practiced NEARLY enough. It's also a good idea to simulate the stress as much as possible, for instance by running a bit right before shooting. Also timed shooting helps.

Another bottom line is that one should never retreat from the bear - especially don't turn and run! Your only hope is to intimidate it, then use countermeasures as necessary.

By the way, if the wind is wrong for the bear spray, all you'll do is give yourself a nice Szechuan flavor for the hungry bear...

83 posted on 03/09/2012 7:22:09 AM PST by PreciousLiberty (Real Hope - Santorum '12!!!)
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To: Zakeet

There is a reason they call it “the Utah Effect” and a big reason is BYU. Things seem to happen in and around Utah that are not replicable anywhere else.


84 posted on 03/09/2012 7:32:03 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Retired Greyhound

Good advice. A lot better than spray and pray. LOL!!!


85 posted on 03/09/2012 7:35:06 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: hiredhand

Ping.


86 posted on 03/09/2012 7:35:34 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Zakeet

Maybe this Mormon charlatan thinks Freemason icons will work better...

or a Jupiter stone...

while wearing magic Underoos of course...


87 posted on 03/09/2012 8:04:15 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: mkmensinger

Silly

bang 2 sticks together...

Didnt you ever see The Parent Trap when you were a kid ???


88 posted on 03/09/2012 8:06:09 AM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: patriot08
About the photo; did he kill the mother and the cubs?

Look at it again and this time read what is written there. They are all temporarily disabled.

89 posted on 03/09/2012 8:13:46 AM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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To: OldPossum

Sorry, that quote comes from the article. You have to click on the complete article.


90 posted on 03/09/2012 8:15:23 AM PST by OldPossum (ou)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Sticks are for mountain lions.


91 posted on 03/09/2012 8:21:57 AM PST by Ratman83
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To: mkmensinger

Don’t forget how to identify grizzly scat.


92 posted on 03/09/2012 8:25:57 AM PST by magslinger (If I wanted to vote for a Commie I would vote for Obammie. He has a chance of winning.)
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To: donozark

Yep, I will look this up later on today. The bottle I have came from bass pro shop.

I was really surprised at how short the range is. If that pitbull had been a charging bear, I think my dog and I would have been hamburger.


93 posted on 03/09/2012 8:28:36 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: fso301

a good walking stick is all you need.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9XIdaL0UX4


94 posted on 03/09/2012 8:37:07 AM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: Zakeet

You just have to remember to draw your anti-sea bear circle, hopefully it works with land bears, too.

95 posted on 03/09/2012 8:40:36 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Retired Greyhound

“Spray first, then shoot.”

Huh? You say that as though you’ll have all the time in the world to spray, switch to the gun, then shoot. Bears don’t play that fair.


96 posted on 03/09/2012 8:43:32 AM PST by CodeToad (NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!!!)
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To: X-spurt
LOL


97 posted on 03/09/2012 8:50:19 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: chris37

Who was the manufacturer of the bear spray you used?


98 posted on 03/09/2012 9:46:21 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Haiku Guy
If you were to sit down with God and design a critter to resist gunfire while coming at you to kill you quick, you would come up with something that looks a lot like a bear.

More likely a cape buffalo or a gaur but bears would be high on the list. About half of the critical target area of the giant bovines is covered by the boss of those horns which even the most powerful of rifles can't always penetrate.

99 posted on 03/09/2012 10:15:01 AM PST by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: Zakeet

Explain it to Greg Bush who saved his life by drawing his Ruger .454 Casull revolver and dispatching this charging Grizzly.

Twig snap alerts dog-walker to charging grizzly

100 posted on 03/09/2012 10:30:07 AM PST by nonsporting
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