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Full Titanic Wreck Site is Mapped for First Time
FoxNews.com ^ | March 9, 2012 | AP

Posted on 03/09/2012 7:19:18 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel

SOUTH PORTLAND, Maine -- Researchers have pieced together what's believed to be the first comprehensive map of the entire 3-mile-by-5-mile Titanic debris field and hope it will provide new clues about what exactly happened the night 100 years ago when the superliner hit an iceberg, plunged to the bottom of the North Atlantic and became a legend.

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To: Cowman

Interesting since the company that won salvage rights to the wreck and has put on a touring exhibition of recovered artifacts sells pieces of coal recovered from the debris field at this show. Here is a link to the online store for coal. http://www.thetitanicstore.com/browse.cfm/titanic-authentic-coal/2,2.html


21 posted on 03/09/2012 9:12:14 AM PST by xp38
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To: butterdezillion; Chunga85; LibertarianInExile; All; Lurker; FromLori; azhenfud; Wolfie; ...

Federal Reserve conspiracy PING


22 posted on 03/09/2012 9:28:00 AM PST by know-the-law
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To: the OlLine Rebel

What do you bet this was tax payers money pissed away.


23 posted on 03/09/2012 9:44:29 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: know-the-law
600 industrialists killed, huh?

Out of the 1514 people killed on the Titanic, 693 of them were the crew. That leaves 821. Of those, 141 were Third Class women and children--not exactly likely to be industrialists. That leaves 680. By that claim, then, almost 90 percent of the men, women and chldren from First and Second Class, plus the men from Third Class, were industrialists.

24 posted on 03/09/2012 9:49:46 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Metaphorically speaking:

February, even with a leap year, is the shortest month of the year. This February we ran up some amazing numbers. Unfortunately, the shortest month gave us one of the largest injuries to the economy.

What was it?

In February, the shortest month of the year, the Federal Government rang up the largest budget deficit in our history. In February, the deficit was $229 billion dollars.

These numbers have gotten to the point where they no longer faze anyone. We have become numb to them. We are now like the passengers on the Titanic, looking at the stern rising up into the air and starting to realize, as actor David Warner said in the movie “Titanic,” “you know, I do believe this ship may sink.”

Let’s put this in perspective. The Republicans lost control of the House and Senate in 2007. The last budget that was passed by a Republican Congress and signed by a Republican President was the fiscal year 2007 budget. When that budget year closed, our deficit was $161 billion.

Just in case we have forgotten, the last time the Republicans controlled Congress, unemployment was at 4.6 percent. In January 2007, the average price of regular gas was $2.18 a gallon.

Today we are burning through other people’s money at an unbelievable rate.

There is a reason for this. Obama and his cronies are hard-core socialists (or Marxists if you prefer). They have one objective. They want to destroy the free market system and replace it with the dictatorship of the proletariat.

The problem with what Obama wants to do is there are certain inevitable results. Socialism generates tyranny, poverty and far to often mass murder. The leading mass murderers of the last century were all socialists (with an honorable mention to the Turks for the Armenian genocide). Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mao and Pol Pot were all socialists.

Unfortunately Obama, Pelosi and Reid are all enamored with an ideology that in the last century, either directly or indirectly has killed probably a billion people.

The deficits Obama and the Democrats are running are worse every month. Anyone with two functioning brain cells should be able to figure out the end result here. We will have a national economic collapse. America is not too big to fail and the policies of Barack Obama and the Party of Treason are not simply wrong. They have one specific objective.

They want to destroy the American economy.

If the American economy is destroyed, they can remake America in to the kind of socialist hellhole that they think we should be.

The problem with socialism is not as Margaret Thatcher said that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money. The problem with socialism is that in order to implement socialism, freedom and liberty must be destroyed.

America is the greatest, freest nation on the earth.

Unfortunately for Americans, we are like those passengers on the Titanic. If Obama and his party of socialists, American liberty will sink like the Titanic.

And unfortunately for Americans, like the Titanic, there will be no lifeboats for us. There will be no place left where the lamp of liberty still shines and where freedom rings.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 10:05:48 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; know-the-law
600 industrialists killed, huh? Out of the 1514 people killed on the Titanic, 693 of them were the crew. That leaves 821. Of those, 141 were Third Class women and children--not exactly likely to be industrialists. That leaves 680. By that claim, then, almost 90 percent of the men, women and chldren from First and Second Class, plus the men from Third Class, were industrialists.

It wasn't 600, obviously. But top industrialists and other wealthy men who were against Morgan and the Fed were indeed on the ship, and Morgan did cancel.

In the wheels-within-wheels category, the reason putting them on a sinking ship may have been chosen for their deaths (never an easy thing to do against the super-wealthy, let alone a bunch of them at the same time), is that the Wealthy Industrialist Cabal was already generally aware of the fact that the Titanic was going to be sunk anyway.

There's a lot of evidence that Titanic's sister ship, the Olympic, was fatally damaged in a previous human error NY Port collision that would NOT be covered by insurance, and which would scrap the ship - and bankrupt White Star Lines. So, after bringing it carefully, and slowly, across the Atlantic, it was put into the yard alongside the almost completed - and nearly identical - Titanic, and the names were swapped.

The "Olympic" was thereby re-created out of the new Titanic, and the "Titanic" was actually the damaged Olympic. The only thing left was to get rid of the damaged Olympic/Titanic. So an experience captain was brought out of near retirement for the "maiden voyage" and promptly ordered full speed through a known ice field at night, while he got drunk and went to sleep, waiting for the inevitable collision (probably to be made inevitable by a deck officer in on it).

Ironically, it was the high caliber of the watch that killed the ship by warning it too soon. Instead of hitting the berg head-on, which would have collapsed the forward holds but NOT sunk the ship, the side-swipe ripped open a long gash that enabled enough holds to fill with water that the weight distribution of the ship shifted, tilting it and filling ever more holds, and dooming it.

So the careful plan of cashing in the insurance (act of God instead of negligence) worked, but the claim of "unsinkability" was lost. And of course, knowing they were going to do this, putting the anti-Fed industrialists on board to drown was the icing on the cake. Which was itself duly covered up by being shocked, shocked I say, that there weren't enough lifeboats, and then passing laws requiring them in the future, and praising themselves for, of all things, looking out for people's safety.

And you wonder who's behind Obama? LOL!

26 posted on 03/09/2012 10:09:38 AM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: xp38
The opposite philosophy of Robert Ballard whom, it should be noted was the one, who actually located the Titanic.

"The Titanic shouldn't be destroyed because people happen to have a fat-enough checkbook that allows them to go there and dismantle it." ~ Robert D. Ballard

27 posted on 03/09/2012 10:25:45 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: F15Eagle
Talk about secrets: Ballard was acting as a secret agent on a classified intelligence operation for the US Navy;

http://natgeotv.com/ca/bob-ballard-special/about

**In 1985, Dr. Robert Ballard stunned the world when he discovered the Titanic more than two miles down in the Atlantic. Few knew that when he found the great ship, Ballard was on a secret mission for the United States Navy. The Navy had sent Ballard, not to hunt Titanic, but to investigate two other deep-sea tragedies: top-secret American nuclear submarines lost in the Cold War's darkest days.

** Dr. Ballard discloses the details of those missions, how he got the Navy to agree to let him search for Titanic and how his work examining two sunken subs - the Thresher and the Scorpion - gave him the crucial knowledge he needed to find the lost ship.**

29 posted on 03/09/2012 10:51:23 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Talisker

Right, so your argument is that this critical body of opponents to the federal reserve were all somehow compelled to book passage on the Titanic. How did that work?


30 posted on 03/09/2012 10:56:29 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
hope it will provide new clues about what exactly happened the night 100 years ago when the superliner hit an iceberg

Here's a clue.....IT HIT AN ICEBERG!!!

31 posted on 03/09/2012 10:57:31 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: illiac

Titanic in 5 Seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuSdU8tbcHY


32 posted on 03/09/2012 10:59:04 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: GreenHornet

No, as any liberal can tell you, it was George Bushes fault!


34 posted on 03/09/2012 11:04:15 AM PST by packrat35 (When will we admit we are now almost a police state?)
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To: F15Eagle

About halfway down this Nova transcript is Bobby Ballard’s account, pretty much as I remember of how he tells it; with references to the Glomar Explorer.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2602subsecrets.html


35 posted on 03/09/2012 11:07:26 AM PST by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: GreenHornet

It was sunk by the Jews.....Iceberg, Goldberg, Greenberg, what’s the difference?


36 posted on 03/09/2012 11:08:42 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Right, so your argument is that this critical body of opponents to the federal reserve were all somehow compelled to book passage on the Titanic. How did that work?

In the simplest and most obvious possible way - the cover story for a group of highly influential men to get together and discuss this issue without the public taking any notice of the fact that they were doing it. The press would be all over any meeting of these people for any reason - anywhere else. You have to remember, the Federal Reserve was finally created in absolute secrecy, literally out on an island.

But on a ship, they could sit and talk for days and hash things out amongst themselves, in full view of other passengers, and all anyone would think was that they were simply sticking together due to their ultra first-class status. And that's probably exactly what Morgan pitched to them, too - before he bailed at the last minute and the ship sailed off without him - but with all of THEM already stuck on board.

37 posted on 03/09/2012 11:34:38 AM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Aaah, more pieces of the puzzle, thank you.

May I inquire as to where you found this info from???


38 posted on 03/09/2012 12:00:48 PM PST by know-the-law
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To: Talisker

I assume you’re going to get to the Illuminati and Jesuit aspects of this conspiracy theory, too, right?


39 posted on 03/09/2012 12:42:03 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: know-the-law
Aaah, more pieces of the puzzle, thank you. May I inquire as to where you found this info from???

Like everything else, from all over the place. There's "Titanic - The Ship That Never Sank", by Robin Gardner. There's The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve" by G. Edward Griffin. There's all sorts of things about Morgan (read how the sadistic bastard treated Tesla).

And the Web, of course. In fact, searching the above books as they are referenced in web articles is a good start.

As astounding as the Olympic-Titanic name swap appears (just think of the audacity), it does bear up under scrutiny. Subtle things like the numbers of portholes, the extend of external promenade coverings, and the placement of external shear lines are clearly evident in comparison photos. And I read that now they've found eveidence of different letters etched in the steel of the submerged "Titanic" where the name letters have dropped off.

The important thing to remember, I think, is that the people who did this are the same people who created entire wars for profit and social control. Whacking a ship in order to murder renegades within their ranks in order to gain control over America's financial system was probably so trivial to them, that they had assistants handle it.

What's chilling is that the same mindset still controls the same "elites" today.

40 posted on 03/09/2012 12:43:47 PM PST by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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