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Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?
Politico | 3/08/12 | John Harris and Jonathan Martin

Posted on 03/09/2012 9:49:18 AM PST by Mountain Mary

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73809.html

Many Republican political professionals are worried that Mitt Romney’s public image is now defined by a word never associated with winning presidential campaigns — weakness — and are urging him to take dramatic steps to recast his reputation between now and the fall. The advice, echoed in interviews with numerous influential GOP figures, comes as Romney finds himself tormented by a contradiction: With each passing day of the primary season, he is coming closer and closer to being presidential nominee — and seemingly further and further away from being president.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73809.html#ixzz1oduaDFj3


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"Republican voters were asked to describe their greatest concern if Romney wins the nomination. The most selected response, by 18 percent, was, “He waffles on issues and does not take a position." LOL
1 posted on 03/09/2012 9:49:20 AM PST by Mountain Mary
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To: Mountain Mary

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0312/73809.html


2 posted on 03/09/2012 9:51:23 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: Mountain Mary

the article fails to highlight that Bob Dole at his weakest, would beat Obama.


3 posted on 03/09/2012 9:51:50 AM PST by GotMojo
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To: Mountain Mary
RINOBROS, RINO BROTHERS
4 posted on 03/09/2012 9:51:50 AM PST by FrankR (You are only enslaved to the extent of the entitlements you receive.)
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To: Mountain Mary
To the headline: absolutely not, Dole is a man of character.
5 posted on 03/09/2012 9:53:36 AM PST by svcw (CLEAN WATER http://www.longlostsis.com/PI/MayanHelp2012.html)
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To: Mountain Mary

No Bob Dole ACTUALLY did serve his country in uniform(and sustained Life threatening Service related injuries) while the ENTIRE WUSSY Rommney Family fan off to either Mexico or France to avoid service and to skirt US laws. What was the last Ronnmey to wear a US Military Uniform?


6 posted on 03/09/2012 9:55:18 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Mountain Mary

Why is there even a question mark in the title? It’s Romney’s turn.

Bush, Dole, McCain, Romney—SSDD. The RNC just hopes you won’t notice.


7 posted on 03/09/2012 9:55:47 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: US Navy Vet

ran


8 posted on 03/09/2012 9:55:54 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Mountain Mary

Won’t vote for Romney ever. I’d rather fight the devil that has his mask off than approve of the costumed one that will sink conservatism.


9 posted on 03/09/2012 9:55:55 AM PST by greatvikingone
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To: Mountain Mary
I am afraid he is more like one of these guys;


10 posted on 03/09/2012 9:58:03 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Mountain Mary

Big problem is if Repubs do not turn out to vote for Romney. IMO, this is what some folks did when McCain was running in 2008. There by contributing to the Obama win.


11 posted on 03/09/2012 9:58:24 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Mountain Mary

“Bob Dole is the new Bob Dole”, said Bob Dole.


12 posted on 03/09/2012 9:58:38 AM PST by ClearCase_guy ("And the public gets what the public wants" -- The Jam)
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To: Mountain Mary

I often defend Romney, as I defend all the republican candidates. All are fine with me.

Yes he definitely has to fear appearing like Dole. BTW Dole wasn’t weak he had a reputation for a mean streak. We would have been so better under Dole than Clinton.

Dole was just labeled as a loser, definitely as too old. Don’t fall into any of these traps, folks. Our nominee will be savaged no matter who it is.

I live in the Philadelphia area. While you all enjoy the image of Santorum as an “everyman” I can tell you the Pennsylvania media had him targeted as an extreme out of touch right wing homophobic nazi.

If anything, Santorum is a guy I’d feel most comfortable with in the White House, and he is the guy the media most loves to hate. But they will do Gingrich or Romney the same favor.

I couldn’t wait to hear Rush today deal with the media spin that more jobless means a “robust recovery”. Stay vigilant.


13 posted on 03/09/2012 9:59:06 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: duckman

McCain had a better chance of winning than Romney does.

After all, Romney lost to McCain.


14 posted on 03/09/2012 10:00:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Mountain Mary

>Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?<

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Is the new GOP the old ‘let’s all get along’ GOP?


15 posted on 03/09/2012 10:00:16 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Mountain Mary
“Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?”

As a person? No. Mittens isn't half of a Bob Dole.

As a repeat of history? Absolutely, to a T.

1994/2010 a great populist uprising takes place and ties the hands of an Anti-American liberal POS.

1996/2012 the populist uprising dissipates, fails to finish the job, and grants four more years to the clown president to hurt the country.

16 posted on 03/09/2012 10:02:47 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Mountain Mary

Dole, McCain....you name it...he fits the loser MO.


17 posted on 03/09/2012 10:04:10 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Williams

Santorum says he would definitely consider Gingrich for VP and I personally think it would be an ideal match.

Gingrich has the powerful personality that will have an impact in a Santorum administration. Also they’re the perfect matchup for a good cop/bad cop team. Santorum could explain policy with a smile while Gingrich could use his experience to apply the whip in congress.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/santorum-gingrich-runningmate-alabama/2012/03/08/id/431942


18 posted on 03/09/2012 10:05:02 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: greatvikingone

Yeah, fighting the devil would be better. He’s Obama’s twin. Obama is better. Every single word he ever speaks is a lie, so when he takes conservative positions he’s actually an ultra liberal. He will defend Obamacare even with a GOP Congress and even after campaigning to immediately repeal it.

I am strongly on the defeat Obama side. There is no wavering. I would say I favor Santorum/Romney followed by Gingrich at the moment. If they win the nomination they deserve my vote and Obama must go.

I’ve watched towns, counties and states go underwater to liberal democrat control and not recover for decades because some conservatives gritted their teeth and were going to teach the GOP a lesson.


19 posted on 03/09/2012 10:06:57 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: greatvikingone

Me either gvko.

I’ll write in the name: “Orange Juice Can” instead.


20 posted on 03/09/2012 10:07:17 AM PST by Mountain Mary ("This is OUR country and WE will decide"... Mark Levin)
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To: Mountain Mary

The frustrating thing is that Bob Dole could beat Obama this year:
http://www.nationaljournal.com/columns/common-sense/the-over-under-for-2012-20110106
if 0’s approval rating and unemployment stays the same.

Romney, on the other hand ......


21 posted on 03/09/2012 10:07:28 AM PST by tumblindice ( our new, happy lives)
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To: Mountain Mary

—Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?—

Does the pope wear a funny hat?

I’ve been calling him “Bob Dole III” since last year. A lot of us have.


22 posted on 03/09/2012 10:11:44 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Mountain Mary

If mitt gets nominated he will have a problem cause conservative Republicans like me just can not get thrilled at all to go out and work for this liberal RINO chump.
I’m f-ing fed up with the likes of Bob Dull, Juan McLame,
And all the damned Bush’s and Klintoons.
REAL conservative or go fish.
The Tea Party should adopt the Who’s We Won’t Get Fooled Again as a theme song on this one.;


23 posted on 03/09/2012 10:16:12 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Mountain Mary
"Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?"

Depends.

24 posted on 03/09/2012 10:20:01 AM PST by JaguarXKE
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To: Mountain Mary

No. Bob Dole wrote One Soldier’s Story while Mitt counter protested war protesters.


25 posted on 03/09/2012 10:20:17 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: US Navy Vet
No Bob Dole ACTUALLY did serve his country in uniform...

Let's not forget Bob Dole's service in the Senate. While he drifted toward the end, when Ronald Reagan needed him in the 1980s, Dole was generally there front and center. Where was Mitt? At best, he was AWOL. However, Mitt has already admitted publicly that he didn't support Reaganism, so in all likelihood, he was on the other side. Not surprising since the Romney family opposed Ronald Reagan since he arrived on the national scene.

Please, people, wake up. We're being sold a bill of goods in Mitt Romney. I now know why my Democrat friends were so depressed in 1984. Sending out a dweeb sure loser as your party's nomination is depressing.

26 posted on 03/09/2012 10:32:26 AM PST by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: Mountain Mary
Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?Bobdole was never actually a socialist. He presented as an actual "moderate" conservative, center-right, as it were. His instincts were conservative, he just thought that he could get there with a little government tweaking.
27 posted on 03/09/2012 10:39:20 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Mountain Mary

No, not even close. Bob Dole is an honorable man and a war veteran, who didn’t use his PAC to sh*t upon anyone deemed a threat to his political aspirations.

...And Dole came closer to victory in ‘96 than Romney will this year.


28 posted on 03/09/2012 10:52:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: ScottinVA

Heck, Mondale came closer to victory in ‘84 than Romney will this year.


29 posted on 03/09/2012 10:53:49 AM PST by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Mountain Mary

Of course he’s weak


30 posted on 03/09/2012 10:54:03 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: duckman

So sick of that lame excuse; I won’t vote for Romney is not contributing Obama a win-Romney’s own faul, his liberalism is.


31 posted on 03/09/2012 10:55:39 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: 353FMG
Is the new GOP the old ‘let’s all get along’ GOP?

As in the "Get-Along Gang"?

32 posted on 03/09/2012 10:58:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: dfwgator
Heck, Mondale came closer to victory in ‘84 than Romney will this year.

Yep... look for even Wyoming to be a purple state this time around...

33 posted on 03/09/2012 11:00:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (GOP, meet Courage... Courage, meet GOP.)
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To: ScottinVA
As in the "Get-Along Gang"?

Professor Carroll Quigley was President Clinton's mentor, and in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World In our Time the professor revealed that William C. Whitney (S&B) and others, in the late 19th century, developed a plan to control both major political parties through financial contributions and have the two main parties alternate power so the public would think it had a choice.

Professor Quigley commented:"...the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy."[

34 posted on 03/09/2012 11:31:57 AM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Mountain Mary
Is Mitt Romney the new Bob Dole?

Ummmmmmm . . . . . . yes!!

35 posted on 03/09/2012 11:33:48 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: I cannot think of a name

It won’t be long till Mitt knocks over a hand rail and falls off the stage ala Bob Dole in ‘96. The MSM will be all over that.


36 posted on 03/09/2012 11:34:56 AM PST by taterjay
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To: duckman
Big problem is if Repubs do not turn out to vote for Romney.

Yes, indeed! America does not care for moderates and has continually rejected them. And, yet, the RNC is bound and determined to cram them down our throats.

If Romney gets the nomination, conservatives will stay home (me included). I cannot/will not vote for Romney, not even against Obama. There isn't a dime's worth of difference between them.

37 posted on 03/09/2012 11:39:11 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: Mountain Mary
Dole was a pitiful progressive party hack... but he was a war hero... mitt has no positive traits in his life. His business prowess was in destroying what others had built... and doing it without regard for anything but the bottom line. That is not Capitalism... Capitalism is good... vulture Capitalism is not Capitalism... it is evil... and romney is evil.

LLS

38 posted on 03/09/2012 11:42:33 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: DustyMoment

“If Romney gets the nomination, conservatives will stay home (me included).”

The only way I would stay home and not vote is if Jeb Bush is given the nomination at a Brokered Convention. I still remember what he did to the Schaivo family and Terri.


39 posted on 03/09/2012 11:45:49 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: duckman
I still remember what he did to the Schaivo family and Terri.

What did he do to the Schiavo family and Terri? Do you know the REAL story??

I'm willing to bet that you don't, however, give it your best shot.

BTW, I like Jeb but, I agree, I wouldn't vote for him to be president.

40 posted on 03/09/2012 11:48:56 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment

“I’m willing to bet that you don’t, however, give it your best shot.”

I followed the story as best as was reported. My sister went thru a similar set of events, at the very same time. However she passed on peacefully.


41 posted on 03/09/2012 11:57:39 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: Mountain Mary

There was an article on The Blaze, Beck’s site, asking if he’s the new Reagan-——LOL.


42 posted on 03/09/2012 12:29:11 PM PST by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Mountain Mary

Romney is to the left of everyone.


43 posted on 03/09/2012 2:29:41 PM PST by ansel12
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To: svcw
To the headline: absolutely not, Dole is a man of character.

Mit seems to change his mind about as often as I change my underwear, which is once daily at least.

44 posted on 03/09/2012 2:41:37 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: duckman

First of all, let me express my condolences for the loss of your sister. That must have been an extremely difficult time for you and your family.

I was living in Florida when the whole Schiavo episode took place and followed the story pretty closely. If we take a step back in time, no one was sure how Terri ended up in her vegetative state. There were unconfirmed reports that she and Michael Schiavo had had a big fight that resulted in her injuries and there were other reports indicating that she may have had a stroke.

Regardless of how she ended up in her “vegetative state”, she did. Early into her initial treatment, Michael cancelled her rehabilitation. Many doctors and therapists agreed that she could have greatly benefitted from the rehabilitation that Michael denied her. After approximately 5 years in her coma, Michael made the first attempt to have the state of Florida agree to removing her feeding tubes and allow her to die. After about a week with her feeding tubes disconnected, that decision was overturned and her feeding tube was reconnected.

Now we fast forward approximately 10 more years to the events that have everyone blaming Jeb. In the intervening years after his first attempt to have her feeding tube disconnected, Michael went lawyer and judge shopping. He found a lawyer who would file the paperwork and a judge who would steadfastly oversee her state-sanctioned murder. It remains mind-boggling to me that NO ONE holds Judge Greer responsible for what happened to her.

Judge Greer signed the paperwork ordering her feeding tube removed and alowing her to die. Despite the fact that Terri had committed no crime, this “judge” sentenced her to death. Obviously, there was a great outcry as this story made its way out of the state of Florida. First, the state legislature tried to intervene to see if there was anything they could do to save Terri’s life. Unfortunately, under the state constitution, there wasn’t.

That’s when Jeb got involved. He tried reasoning with Michael and the judge to see if they would allow Terri to become a ward of the state. Both Michael and the judge refused. During this time, Terri’s family got involved asking Michael to return custody of Terri to them and allowing them to become her guardians. Again, Michael refused. Across Florida, people asked why didn’t Michael just divorce her and let her family take charge of her care?

Michael not only steadfastly refused, he insisted that he was carrying out her last wishes which were to not be allowed to live using a machine. According to Michael, this was something Terri had told him in a private conversationa a couple of years before the incident that left her in her coma. However, there was nothing in writing to support his claim (which he only brought forward after her feeding tube was removed and more and more people demanded something be done to save her life) and he never brought this up the first time he tried to get her feeding tube disconnected. Michael’s claim was outright rejected by Terri’s family who are Roman Catholic and and they said she would never have made such a request.

As this situation continued to deteriorate, pressure mounted for somebody to do something. This is where Jeb comes in. Jeb decided that he would send members of the state police to the hospital where Terri was slowly dying from starvation and dehydration (a “beautiful” death, we were told by the complicit media) to take charge of her and make her a ward of the state.

At this, Judge Greer countered by saying that he would order the local police to surround the hospital to prevent the state police from carrying out their orders, even at the risk of deadly gunfire. Jeb, horrified at the prospect of two police agencies shooting at each other, reluctantly ordered the state police to stand down and return to Tallahassee.

Approximately 2 - 3 weeks later, Terri finally died. But, the story doesn’t end there. Terri’s family asked Michael to release her body to them so that they could bury her. Again, Michael refused and, instead, had her cremated and her remains interred in a secret location. To this day, her family doesn’[t know where her remains are kept and they are unable to visit her grave.

After Terri’s death, Michael married the girlfriend with whom he had been living for the previous 4 or 5 years and with whom he had 2 children. As soon as her body was disposed of, he and new wife moved out-of-state to an unknown location.

I fail to understand why, in that whole story, everyone blames Jeb for Terri’s death, but not Michael or judge Greer. A year or two later, judge Greer was re-elected and, when that term ended, he retired.

This is the real story and, like everything else, the disingenuous, biased media (DBM) reported the story in a way that bashed the Republican, but not the perpetrators.


45 posted on 03/09/2012 3:56:18 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: DustyMoment
It remains mind-boggling to me that NO ONE holds Judge Greer responsible for what happened to her.

I do...

the infowarrior

46 posted on 03/10/2012 12:36:31 AM PST by infowarrior
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To: DustyMoment

Thanks for the condolences and the in depth explanation. I was living in NC at the time and probably did not get the detail reporting you did in Fl. Once again thanks for taking the time to post the info.


47 posted on 03/10/2012 4:42:53 AM PST by duckman (Go Newt...)
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To: duckman

My pleasure. The Terri Schiavo story is one of the saddest, most disgusting episodes in American history.

NO American should EVER be treated that way again. If we take anything from the story, we should take that.

Like I said, I like Jeb, but would never support him for president. We’ve had too many dynasties and don’t need anymore Bush’s.


48 posted on 03/10/2012 10:00:35 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: infowarrior
I do...

You're a member of a very small group. Welcome!

49 posted on 03/10/2012 10:02:20 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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