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Wind farms: even worse than we thought…
The Telegraph ^ | March 8, 2012 | James Delingpole

Posted on 03/09/2012 8:27:06 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

The Global Warming Policy Foundation has produced yet another devastating report: this time on the economics of wind farms. Turns out they're even worse than we thought.

Not only do the Bat Chomping Eco-Crucifixes (TM) ruin views, kill birds, cause bats to implode, destroy the British film industry, frighten horses, enrich rent-seeking toffs like David Cameron's father-in-law Sir Reginald Sheffield Bt, drive up electricity bills, kill jobs, create fuel poverty, cause old people to die of hypothermia, wipe out property values, drive people mad with strobing and noise pollution and enable smug liberal idiots to spout rubbish like "Oh, I don't mind them. Actually I think they're rather beautiful", but also by 2020 they're set to drive up consumer bills in the UK alone by £120 billion.

This is about ten times more than it would cost if we stuck to gas. (Which we have in abundance, just waiting to be exploited, in places like the Bowland Shale).

In the latest Spectator, Matt Ridley delivers the coup-de-grace. Here's a taste:

To the nearest whole number, the percentage of the world's energy that comes from wind turbines today is: zero. Despite the regressive subsidy (pushing pensioners into fuel poverty while improving the wine cellars of grand estates), despite tearing rural communities apart, killing jobs, despoiling views, erecting pylons, felling forests, killing bats and eagles, causing industrial accidents, clogging motorways, polluting lakes in Inner Mongolia with the toxic and radioactive tailings from refining neodymium, a ton of which is in the average turbine — despite all this, the total energy generated each day by wind has yet to reach half a per cent worldwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: ecocrucifixes; econuts; greenenergy; windenergy; windfarms

1 posted on 03/09/2012 8:27:08 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Odd how the enviro-wackos don’t mind killing upwards of HALF A MILLION BIRDS AND BATS per year in the U.S. with their stinkin’ wind farms.


2 posted on 03/09/2012 8:32:07 PM PST by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Free ThinkerNY

3 posted on 03/09/2012 8:32:24 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Eco-Crucifixes (TM)

LOL! Good stuff.

4 posted on 03/09/2012 8:34:06 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for Americans to WEAN the government off of OUR money!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Well said!
5 posted on 03/09/2012 8:39:53 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Free ThinkerNY
One thing is certain: the arguments against wind farms are so abundant and well-known that ignorance is no longer a plausible excuse. If you're involved in the wind farm industry, you're a weapons-grade tosser, simple as that.

Obama boosts Mid-Atlantic offshore wind-farm plans

6 posted on 03/09/2012 8:41:23 PM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“The bats died for our sins against Gaia.”


7 posted on 03/09/2012 8:42:39 PM PST by MetaThought
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To: Free ThinkerNY

8 posted on 03/09/2012 8:46:37 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But don’t even think about ending the windmill programs because they make greenie moonbat liberals feel like their saving mother earth.

And hey, feeeeelings are what’s really important, ya’ know?


9 posted on 03/09/2012 8:51:00 PM PST by Bullish
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Liberals (er, now “progressives”) love to scold the rest of us about “sustainability”, yet not a single one of their economic plans is sustainable. The main reason, is that they can’t spin a project’s financial statement longer than than they can spin propaganda supporting the project.

We used to have the prosperity and wealth to afford to entertain liberals by giving in to their demands, but no more. The left and big government conservatives have consumed all the jelly beans in the jar. We are not only out of money, but we are close to busting our credit limit as well.

After we work through the challenge the economic truth about alternative energy’s real impact on our prosperity, the next challenge will be to pay for the decommissioning costs. The instant that enviros see how much blame they are going to have to absorb from the rest of the voters for how much wealth they caused us to waste and how much environmental degradation they cause , wind power will start to be seen as the massive bird-killing eyesores they really are. Just like ugly strip mines that industry used to see as signs of industrial progress, that is until little kids started pointing and gawking at them as being the ugly wounds in the earth they really are, enviros will come to a day when they will not be able to get government to subsidize decommissioning these Bird Cuisinarts fast enough. They will even picket and protest that we must restore our “once-pristine vistas”. But of course, the blame for this economic debacle will be cast elsewhere, actually anywhere except right where it belongs: in the laps of utopian progressives.


10 posted on 03/09/2012 8:53:45 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Free ThinkerNY

pure Algore crapscience


11 posted on 03/09/2012 8:57:06 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The dirty little secret about wind energy MSM does not want to talk about.

I do not recall the exact count now, but more people have been killed falling down from wind turbine towers than all the people killed in nuclear power plants in USA+Western Europe.


12 posted on 03/09/2012 9:09:51 PM PST by entropy12 (In fighting among republicans is greatly appreciated by the Obama re-election campaign.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Don’t forget Waubra disease.

Wind farm illness: Waubra Disease
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYnNQoTcsHY

Protect yourself.

Acoustic Vibration Disease Hat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El2vVl5Figk

Environmentalists are against Wind power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pODvhqSfyeM

Wind turbine syndrome news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCekFYWsPo

Wind Nimby Spanking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLHOydx2RTA

Wind Nimby Rant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KurAbrMHu2k

John Stossel Wind Power and NIMBY
[Environmentalists against wind turbines.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2rMj8KVtQ


13 posted on 03/09/2012 9:15:46 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: entropy12

NPR reports a shortage of technicians to climb up and maintain theses things.

Plenty of job openings. Also works towards zero population growth.

Fodder for Soylent Green courtesy of Green Energy.

What happened to that smokey turbine? Some kid with a slingshot?


14 posted on 03/09/2012 9:23:30 PM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: Surrounded_too

Well to prove it false, all the CEO’s, Energy Department and other proponents should take their families to live close to a wind farm and see how it affects them.


15 posted on 03/09/2012 9:44:47 PM PST by Surrounded_too
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’ll be good to see all kinds of subsidies and other spending go away during the collapse and wars ahead, BTW. Keeping the homebuilt wind turbine, though. ;-)


16 posted on 03/09/2012 9:52:44 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Old-fashioned windmills served a purpose and looked it.

Modern wind turbines are F’ugly! There is a turbine “farm” along I-90 just west of the Columbia River Gorge. I had not realized what an eyesore they are until I saw those.

What a waste of money, birds, and energy!


17 posted on 03/09/2012 9:59:10 PM PST by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED)
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To: bigbob
If you're involved in the wind farm industry, you're a weapons-grade tosser, simple as that.

Kaboom!!! Nice shot!

18 posted on 03/09/2012 10:11:53 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All
South Point on the Big Island of Hawaii.
19 posted on 03/09/2012 10:25:38 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I for one, would love if wind energy, solar energy, or hydro energy (small scale) were efficient. I dream of the day when each individual can produce their own energy needs themselves. This would result in those government run monopolies to go the way of dinosaurs. But, at this point, through extensive research I cannot find any alternative energy system that can reasonably produce energy for my home or business that will result in a half way decent return on investment. That is why the government offers grants and other incentives to get the return up to about 5% in good cases. However, personally I feel it is unethical to expect you all to pay for my energy consumption so will not go that route.

The fact that no matter what system one goes with that the rate of return with government subsidies is about the same tells me that the industry is so over regulated that there is little competitive juices running through it. I would love to collaborate with a proven tech to finance the development of a wind turbine system that actually can be produced and sold for a price to offer a 5% or greater return without the dang government using our tax dollars to enhance their control over our lives. Think of the impact individual household energy independence would have on our socialist government!!! What a great dream!!!


20 posted on 03/09/2012 11:51:40 PM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: Wpin

Here’s an idea.... find a way to harness the flushing of a toilet to produce energy. We’ve all got to flush, why waste the waste? Why not put a paddle wheel in the line so we can power up the coffeemaker? Or harness the methane from the septicc tank?


21 posted on 03/10/2012 12:02:39 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Wpin

Of course, the bad thing is that the libs would be able to produce more energy because they are naturally more full of crap, so they would realize a greater return on their investment, but at least it’s a fart with a start.


22 posted on 03/10/2012 12:03:48 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Wpin

Of course, the bad thing is that the libs would be able to produce more energy because they are naturally more full of crap, so they would realize a greater return on their investment, but at least it’s a fart with a start.


23 posted on 03/10/2012 12:05:13 AM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I dream of the day the world lets the countries of Sharia law fall from their own idiocy. Oil is the only thing keeping them from being worse off then Africa


24 posted on 03/10/2012 12:23:52 AM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why don’t we hook one up about 50 yards downwind from the Empty Suit? We’d all be in high cotton.


25 posted on 03/10/2012 12:46:47 AM PST by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There needs to be a mechanism whereby government agencies lose funding if they make really stupid decisions like our own Mr. Chu.
Furthermore there needs to be some was to make people personally responsible. Obama wanted to fund not ready for prime time ventures and pushed ours along ( i realize the article is about Great Britain but there’s not difference in the stupidity)so there should be a measure of responsibility at his level as well. We taxpayers deserve some protection from the whims of our ruling class.
I understand the first words out from the other side will be the overused ‘chilling effect’ but i prefer to think of potential sanctions more as a pause to make sure you’re right and not rushing headlong and dragging us into their own personal abyss.
We,the people, are entitled to a measure of recourse against the mindset of “but we’re the government” or worse yet,”we won”.


26 posted on 03/10/2012 2:37:24 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Ca you imagine the bloodbath if those tyrants didn’t have oil money to subsidize their peoples lives or to purchase their loyalty?


27 posted on 03/10/2012 2:39:02 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: piasa

Those are really good ideas...let me know how they work out for you. Me, I will keep my toilet and septic doing what they are supposed to do... ;)


28 posted on 03/10/2012 4:45:35 AM PST by Wpin ("I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny...")
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To: familyop
Thanks for posting these links, I had never heard of this before. I suspect I am one who would be affected by this, migraines sufferer, motion sickness sufferer etc, yep I'll stay away from wind turbines.
29 posted on 03/10/2012 5:07:56 AM PST by Ditter
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To: piasa
Excellent idea. Then the EPA could require that all toilets be installed on the uppermost floor, or maybe even the attic.

Think of the power we could generate!!! We should patent that idea.

30 posted on 03/10/2012 5:42:12 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Delingpole has such a way with words. I always enjoy reading his posts.


31 posted on 03/10/2012 6:13:16 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (I'm a constitutionalist, not a libertarian. Huge difference.)
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To: wiggen
"if those tyrants didn’t have oil money to subsidize their peoples lives or to purchase their loyalty"

Think of Africa it is rich in resources yet starvation is often ramped. If those idiots in the middle east had no oil that we pump out for them they wouldn't be able to feed themselves at all. Eating would be their primary issue which would over ride everything else even Sharia law. Terrorism would be a non issue

I dream of the day we get away from Oil

32 posted on 03/10/2012 1:07:41 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Should we plant more trees or cut more down??

I think these prognosticators should be ashamed of their stupidity!


33 posted on 04/30/2012 4:32:29 AM PDT by chainsaw (Sarah Palin is still my first choice to save the USA. . .)
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