Skip to comments.Guns&Ammo Review: Arsenal Firearms Introduces Double Barrel Pistol (.45cal)
Posted on 03/12/2012 1:07:15 PM PDT by LibWhacker
It may come as a surprise to some (and boy, do I feel like a cantankerous old geezer for saying this,) but firearms are a mature technology. We all have to be aware that just because you can do something, doesnt mean you should
Following the invention of the double column magazine by Deudonne Saive, there really havent been a whole lot of original ideas coming out of the handgun industry for the last 75 years. Yes, I know, underqualified hacks like me will tell you all about the latest whizbang doodad from SHOT show, but in comparison to say, the medical field, its really just the refinement of existing technologies and the application of new materials from other industries, combined in many instances with hyperbolic marketing.
Which brings me to the AF2011-A1 double barrel pistol from Arsenal Firearms. If you listen carefully to the video, you can almost hear the dialog in the meeting that lead to its creation. Hey Franz, weve got a couple of spare 1911′s and a MIG welder. Any clue what we can do with them? Either that, or they hired a recently-graduated business consultant who mistook the South Park underpants gnomes episode as an instruction manual.
According to Aresenals site, the AF2011-A1 is the very first industrial double barrel semiautomatic pistol of all times. But wait theres more. Theyre claiming that they are making this true industrial market-ready double barrel .45 caliber pistol to commemorate the Colt 1911-A1 in the Centenary.
It is offered either with two independent triggers and one sear group or with two triggers permanently joined and the choice of one or two sear groups. You can pick up one of these wunderkinds in mirror finish Deep Blue or with a 3400 Vickers surface hardness White Ash Nitrite coating.
Now, if youll excuse me, I have a brilliant idea that involves a couple of Glock 17s and a tube of JB Weld
I'm going to get flamed for that.
When is a 1911A not a 1911A?
Do the same thing with vice grips.
I’m thinkin’ this isn’t an inside the waistband type gun, huh?
The one John Browning entered in the U.S. Pistol Trials went 6000 rounds without a malfunction of any kind. That included torture testing.
BTW, I agree with the author that a double barreled 1911 is more of a curiosity than a really useful design. Also Deudonne Saive did not invent the double stack magazine as the Savage model 1907 in .32 auto had one.
Of course Saive was a great gun designer, notably for the FN FAL. He worked with John Browning until Browning died.
What does that bad boy weigh fully loaded ?
And i don’t think I’d be twice as scared staring down two barrels of a .45.....
Here, hold m’ beer an’ watch this!
Looks like someone forgot the basic axiom of pistoleros who carry the 1911: 45 ACP. Because shooting twice is just silly.
as my grandfather used to say.. just because you can, doesn’t mean you should..
They should do this with the AR-15.
Yes, I’ve heard Browning’s original design was extremely reliable. Wouldn’t surprise me, since he was an absolute genius. Then modern gun manufacturers decided to “improve” it.
I also wonder how much the predominant shooting style of his era had to do with it: Fire pistol one handed with arm outstretched and locked at the elbow. Makes it nearly impossible to limp-wrist a gun, leading to fewer jams. The modified Weaver stance most of us use today is certainly more accurate, but also more prone to limp-wristing. I had an old NRA instructor tell me he thinks limp-wristing is the primary cause of the 1911’s reputation for jamming.
Personally, I keep an 8-shot S&W 627 in a holster next to my bed, loaded with .357’s, and a couple extra moon clips in my drawer. It doesn’t jam.
To me it’s kind of like need ice skates with two blades on each skate. Time to man-up and stay single barrel folks ...
that is awesome...
Since the hammers are welded together, you get two shots with one pull of the trigger, classifying this pistol as a machine gun by ATF.
This means it won't be available for sale to civilians in the US. No new machine guns can be added to the registry since 1986.
Get a Kimber...
Kinda makes me bummed I won’t be around in 2111 to see the three barreled model.
LOL!!! Coming Soon to an Action Movie near you. One in each hand as the hero blasts away with his 200 rounds of .45 each bullet lifting the bad guy off the ground.
I would love a blunderbuss version that shoots 15 at a time :)
English colonial types used to carry Howdahs whilst riding elephants, as protection against tiggers.
It is really like the technology for photographers that can’t look at their camera after a shot — equivalent to shot exposure bracketing on a digital SLR.
I am still waiting for the 6-barrel revolving gatlin pistol.
This is not unusual.
Different spring may help, but there's no substitute for a quality firearm.
I NOW A GUY who has a Colt Commander with over 3,000 rounds...not a single failure to feed or fire.
I’ll probably get flamed for this, but Dieudonne Saive was not the inventor of the double column pistol magazine. It was introduced by the 1907 Savage pistol.
‘What does that bad boy weigh fully loaded ?’
Think of it as ballast that reduces recoil.
It’s like something you would expect to see if you left teen-aged boys alone in a machine shop with two 1911’s and no supervision.
Makes me wonder if this firearm is NFA-restricted because of the ‘More than one round per function of the trigger’ ATF ruling that describes machine guns.
I have small hands so this isn't going to work for me. Whoever mentioned that it will show up in a movie is right.
Yoyo in post 17 says that both slides are welded together. So what good are separate triggers? If you only use one gun, it will rack out the unused ammo in the gun that wasn't fired????
Sudetenland in post 20 is the one who mentioned, coming to an action movie near you.
It would definitely make a great movie prop.
I guess...if you really need more efficiency in your double tap.
Would rather have 2 separate ones. Then you can aim in 2 different directions.
Oh give me a break: you get what you pay for. If you buy an original government 1911A1 - Remington Rand or Ithaca - or a real Colt, using good-quality ball ammo and keeo the thing clean and lubricated, they will never let you down. I carried one in combat in crappy conditions and it always worked flawlessly.
Buy the cheapy knockoffs and/or use Brand X ammo, you run into problems.
P.S - Everyone I ever saw shot with the .45 died. Not the same record with other calibers.
I’ve never had my 1911 jam when firing “new” ammunition.
Never design a weapon at the company Christmas party, the sober guy there will build it then drop it on your desk and say, “Here it is”.
¿ Why ?
It's best with a mount.
What did everyone expect after the popularity of “The Judge?”
Keep it clean and lubed and you will have no problems. I was on a pistol team for the military using "rack" (sloppy) 1911s and never had a single jam.
Not sure as to the point of this. A standard .45 will drop a man, no questions asked.
So why pay all that much more for the overkill? Not to mention just how wide the grip is. It looks like there is no way anyone with small hands could even fire it.
I’ll bet that clearing a jam on that thing is a lot of fun.
If you want more than one chunk of lead per trigger pull going downrange, just get a Taurus Judge.
The only possible use for the thing would be home defense, and shotgun is better!
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