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Report that a bill has been passed to prohibit any protest of the President
Fox News | 3/13/2012

Posted on 03/13/2012 4:51:50 AM PDT by Ab Alius Domitor

I admit I am on drugs for a messed up back but I was watching Fox and Friends News this morning and heard that congress had passed a bill making it a felony to protest the President or any one with Secret Service protection. Was I dreaming this or did anyone else hear this? I went to their web site after I heard it but I can't find anything. Please help me Freeper's before I lose my mind and move to some 3rd world country!!!


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1 posted on 03/13/2012 4:52:00 AM PDT by Ab Alius Domitor
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

Yes, it is apparently up to the Secret Service to make the determination. AND if anyone receives SS protection, like David Axelrod for example, they can arrest you for a FELONY if you protest them. Not clear if you have to be warned first.

Man oh man....WHAT was the House thinking when they passed this????


2 posted on 03/13/2012 4:53:55 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Josa

You know the next step: any negative speech, even away from the most high, to be lauded President will be a crime.


3 posted on 03/13/2012 4:55:07 AM PDT by Josa
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To: Ab Alius Domitor; Josa

Gads! It passed so quietly, too. I hadn’t heard a thing about this until right now.


4 posted on 03/13/2012 4:55:37 AM PDT by livius
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

Can you cite an actual bill number? Because I highly doubt this...


5 posted on 03/13/2012 4:57:33 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

I woke up to the same thing...Judge Napolitano talking about it on F&F...the one thing I heard is that 0bama signed it in secret.

Off to the re-education camps.

And for thse idiots that voted for this ahole that said it’s only for 4 years...I could just spit. Look at the damage done in such a short time


6 posted on 03/13/2012 4:58:03 AM PDT by SueRae (Tale of 2 Towers - First, Isengaard (GOP-e), then, the Tower of Sauron on 11.06.2012)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor
Arrested for protesting zer0 or the zer0 minions? Do remember it has happened during clintoon. May not be new? If new will have to read the particulars. And maybe a possible response to the coming dem convention in Charlotte. I'll keep up with the thread (thanks btw) and do some research.
7 posted on 03/13/2012 5:01:09 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Josa

Why does David Axelrod have SS protection?


8 posted on 03/13/2012 5:01:12 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor
I don't see how an anti-free speech bill like that could have made it through both houses of Congress without being exposed to the public?

My call is it is BS, and Faux news is BS anyway.

9 posted on 03/13/2012 5:01:38 AM PDT by rightly_dividing ("You can not put a gun rack in a Volt")
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

Don’t you worry, the ACLU will be all over this. /s


10 posted on 03/13/2012 5:01:57 AM PDT by OKSooner (Never take a known wise-@$$ shooting with you.)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

I heard about it also.


11 posted on 03/13/2012 5:02:15 AM PDT by sport
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To: GreenLanternCorps

H.R. 347


12 posted on 03/13/2012 5:02:33 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

Was it attached to some Gabrielle Giffords bill?


13 posted on 03/13/2012 5:04:28 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: GreenLanternCorps; Ab Alius Domitor
article states that protests will now be prohibited:
A) of the White House or its grounds, or the Vice President's official residence or its grounds;

(B) of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting; or

(C) of a building or grounds so restricted in conjunction with an event designated as a special event of national significance

You will not be allowed to protest ANYWHERE NEAR where Obama or any official under SS protection is.
14 posted on 03/13/2012 5:06:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Fresh Wind

Can find no record of HR 347... Does this bill also forbid the wearing of tin foil?


15 posted on 03/13/2012 5:07:11 AM PDT by theoldmarine (lost two heroes in one day Palin/Jobs - what a pity!)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

GreenLanternCorps, they quoted a bill number and said it passed by “bipartisan” support but I didn’t write the bill number down. I can’t believe that it is not the total discussion on the news at this point. I thank the Lord that other people heard it too because I thought I was stoned out of my mind. Now I have to pick the 3rd world country I am going to move to!


16 posted on 03/13/2012 5:07:23 AM PDT by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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To: Fresh Wind

Thanks Fresh Wind .... http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h347/show


17 posted on 03/13/2012 5:11:03 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: theoldmarine

If it is so, sounds like China to me!


18 posted on 03/13/2012 5:15:37 AM PDT by DooDahhhh (ma)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

I’m sure the ACLU will be all over this.

/s

Liberals, a reminder:

You will lose an election, probably this year.

Remember that.


19 posted on 03/13/2012 5:15:38 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor
"...before I lose my mind and move to some 3rd world country!!!"

Why go to the expense of moving? Stick around and witness the transformation with your own eyes! Obama and all his cronies will deliver it to your door.

20 posted on 03/13/2012 5:16:08 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (I am not worried about the deficit. It is big enough to take care of itself. Ronald Reagan)
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To: OKSooner
Don’t you worry, the ACLU will be all over this. /s

Oh, they'll be all over it all right. But not until a Republican is elected President.

21 posted on 03/13/2012 5:16:40 AM PDT by randita
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To: Ab Alius Domitor; All

To those who have commented so far, here’s a good source of info...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-347

H.R. 347: Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011

112th Congress: 2011-2012

To correct and simplify the drafting of section 1752 (relating to restricted buildings or grounds) of title 18, United States Code.

Sponsor: Rep. Thomas Rooney [R-FL16]

Status: This bill has become law.

Explanation: It was signed by Barack Obama.

[Last Updated: Mar 10, 2012 6:10AM]


22 posted on 03/13/2012 5:17:28 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Josa
HR 347 ----- signed Thursday....

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr347enr/pdf/BILLS-112hr347enr.pdf

23 posted on 03/13/2012 5:17:42 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps; Ab Alius Domitor
Can you cite an actual bill number? Because I highly doubt this...

WHOFACTCHECK: New Bill a Protest Clampdown?
By Russ Baker on Mar 8, 2012

Is the president being asked to pound yet another nail into the coffin of democratic expression? So say alarmist scenarios concerning HR 347 (the Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011) , now on the president’s desk. [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas (enter "HR347" in search box)

The answer, in short, is…maybe. We certainly do have a reason to be concerned. But not necessarily for the reasons we are being given.

http://whowhatwhy.com/2012/03/08/whofactcheck-new-bill-a-protest-clampdown-2/
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H.R.347 Latest Title: Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011
Sponsor: Rep Rooney, Thomas J. [FL-16] (introduced 1/19/2011)
Cosponsors (1)
Related Bills: S.1794
Latest Major Action: Became Public Law No: 112-98 [GPO: Text, PDF]
(enter "HR347" in search box)
House Reports: 112-9

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

24 posted on 03/13/2012 5:18:06 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Fresh Wind
Here's the text of H.R. 347 . . . I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

One Hundred Twelfth Congress

of the

United States of America

AT THE SECOND SESSION

Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,

the third day of January, two thousand and twelve

An Act

To correct and simplify the drafting of section 1752 (relating to restricted buildings or grounds) of title 18, United States Code.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. RESTRICTED BUILDING OR GROUNDS.

-`Sec. 1752. Restricted building or grounds

Speaker of the House of Representatives.

Vice President of the United States and

President of the Senate.

25 posted on 03/13/2012 5:21:49 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Josa; CaptainK

The Bill allows a new power to the Pres. to determine who should get Secret Service protection. He can apparently now give it to anyone he wants at any time.


26 posted on 03/13/2012 5:22:00 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor
Please help me Freeper's before I lose my mind and move to some 3rd world country!!!

A 3rd world country is precisely what the Obamunists are trying to turn America into.

27 posted on 03/13/2012 5:22:21 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: theoldmarine
Can find no record of HR 347

OK, keep your head in the sand if that makes you feel better.

28 posted on 03/13/2012 5:23:01 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Mich Patriot
Why go to the expense of moving? Stick around and witness the transformation with your own eyes!

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29 posted on 03/13/2012 5:29:55 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Mich Patriot
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30 posted on 03/13/2012 5:30:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:
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31 posted on 03/13/2012 5:30:54 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: 1rudeboy

So, what this is saying that someone who “disrupts” the “orderly conduct of Government business”, even if no weapon is used or carried, and no personal injury occurs, is subject to a fine or imprisonment of up to one year, or both.

Who decides what is disruption? Obama’s DOJ?

According to this, Joe Wilson’s “You Lie” outburst during the SOTU Obamafest could have landed him in jail for a year.

Yep. Nothing out of the ordinary.


32 posted on 03/13/2012 5:31:50 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

These are preparations for the “sh!t hitting the fan” that is coming soon to the U.S. It’s bipartisan because people in power in DC of both parties know that things are going to get crazy and they want to be protected from us when it does. They all know that a catastrophe is on the horizon and they are starting to cover their a$$es and make sure they won’t get tar and feathered.


33 posted on 03/13/2012 5:32:25 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: OKSooner; randita

http://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/how-big-deal-hr-347-criminalizing-protest-bill


35 posted on 03/13/2012 5:33:37 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Fresh Wind
According to this, Joe Wilson’s “You Lie” outburst during the SOTU Obamafest could have landed him in jail for a year.

If the obamunists could have their way unchecked, he would have been whisked away and never seen or heard from again.

36 posted on 03/13/2012 5:35:26 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Fresh Wind

You are correct, but only in the sense that a sentence of up to one year (or the fine) is probably greater than what you would get for disrupting the orderly conduct of business of your local grocery store. /s


37 posted on 03/13/2012 5:36:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Fresh Wind

I can’t find it either but I know they reported it one time early on Fox and Friends. I’m not burrowing my head in the sand and neither is anyone else. I’m just trying to find the truth. It was so unbelievable I thought I was dreaming. All of you please keep researching this. This site has always been a source of truth for me and I need your help. Bless you all.


38 posted on 03/13/2012 5:37:16 AM PDT by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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To: 1rudeboy

This article addresses it...

http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2483-House-and-Senate-Passed-Bill-Could-Help-Feds-Crack-Down-on-Protesters-

“It amends a long-standing law againt “willfully and knowingly” trespassing on restricted grounds without lawful authority so that criminal penalties can be applied in a case where a person “knowingly” trespasses. “Willfully” has been dropped from the law by the bill.”
...

“But readings of the legislative text, federal statute, and legal precedent suggest that the bill’s supporters are simply unaware of the significance of the bill’s subtle changes in wording. As always with bills in Congress, it’s important to look at the potential for how it could be used and abused, not simply the intention of the members of Congress who sponsored it.”


39 posted on 03/13/2012 5:39:01 AM PDT by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: jveritas

>You may not have a good mind to begin with so no fear for you to lose it.
>It is a bit early in the day for the stupid conspiracy theories.

From the ACLU website:

How Big a Deal is H.R. 347, That “Criminalizing Protest” Bill?

https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech/how-big-deal-hr-347-criminalizing-protest-bill


40 posted on 03/13/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jveritas

May God bless you and keep you. My mind is fine! Given earlier posts I know I speak the truth. I am not a “conspiracy” person


41 posted on 03/13/2012 5:41:06 AM PDT by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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To: jveritas

*blink* (rubs eyes) Goes back and checks FReepmail archive.

Wow. Welcome back!!

We may have disagreed about Palin, but glad to see you back at FR.

FReegards!


42 posted on 03/13/2012 5:41:37 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("The door is open" PALIN 2012)
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To: jveritas

>You may not have a good mind to begin with so no fear for you to lose it.
>It is a bit early in the day for the stupid conspiracy theories.

Speaking of “stupid”, if you knew anything at all about this current administration, you would know that damn near anything is possible, especially something as easily conceivable as an attempted clamp down on free speech.


43 posted on 03/13/2012 5:43:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: no-to-illegals
This must be a new law, because Judge Napolitano (sp?) said never in the history of our country have we been prohibited from speaking our piece. He said this law violates 1) our freedom of speech; 2) our freedom to peacefully assemble; 3) (don't remember this one).

Clinton did sign a bill right before leaving office that provided SS protection for Hillary, Chelsy, Al Gore, and maybe others (don't remember now). Whether this was for life or a specific number of years, I never heard.

A bill was passed by the House that changed the president's (George W. Bush) SS protection to only 10 years.

44 posted on 03/13/2012 5:44:22 AM PDT by Humal
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Good to see you too :)


45 posted on 03/13/2012 5:44:34 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

Next thing you know, they’ll be dusting off the Sedition Act of 1798.


46 posted on 03/13/2012 5:45:20 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: ETL

Isn’t the case now and has been for ages that a person cannot protest inside a building where the President is present? Don’t they remove hacklers when the President is giving a speech? I think the topic of discussion here is way overblown…


47 posted on 03/13/2012 5:48:27 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops)
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To: deks
From your link:

In other words, according to the courts, “willful” means that you are aware that what you are doing is against some law; “knowing” means that you are simply conscious of what you are doing.

Sorry, I don't see the FEMA boxcars. Yet.
48 posted on 03/13/2012 5:48:39 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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just fyi ...

Secret Service used to be an agency of the Treasury Dept. As of Mar. 2003, it is now under Department of Homeland Security.


49 posted on 03/13/2012 5:50:42 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: theoldmarine

Tin foil is apparently allowed. but silk underwear is prisonable


50 posted on 03/13/2012 5:52:34 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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