Posted on 03/16/2012 7:27:42 AM PDT by nuconvert
What was killing all those honeybees in recent years? New research shows a link between an increase in the death of bees and insecticides, specifically the chemicals used to coat corn seeds.
The study, titled "Assessment of the Environmental Exposure of Honeybees to Particulate Matter Containing Neonicotinoid Insecticides Coming from Corn Coated Seeds," was published in the American Chemical Society's Environmental Science & Technology journal, and provides insight into colony collapse disorder.
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to quote Glenn Beck: “Only the bees know”
Have you ever been bit by a dead bee? From “To Have and Have Not”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSgqrrWyF0Y
Sounds like an X Files movie.......
About a hundred times.... :-)
This is why we must not buy genetically engineered crops. Monsanto & the Obama Admin are up to some very evil stuff.
They sure have messed with things that shouldn’t have been messed with
Monsanto.
Genetically modified food/seeds should be banned.
I’ve been praying for answers to this problem. So much of our food supply depends on these magnificent little workers. Thank God the scientists are getting somewhere with their research.
The dumb kid in the back of the room has a question? Since the seed and the coating is put in the ground and covered up and where it rots and the corn grows up, has someone started a new line of digger honey bees. Do they have little shovels and miner lamps? Has honey got clay in it?
BTTT.
Didn’t they already prove that their hive collapse was due to a virus or fungus, or parasite or something? I could have sworn they had made that determiniation years ago now.
Your answer in the next post, but actually what has been killing bees??? Do you want to know, can you stand the truth, http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varroa_destructor
Yes, next post, you treat it with http://www.ent.uga.edu/bees/disorders/Terramycin.html
“Didnt they already prove that their hive collapse was due to a virus or fungus, or parasite or something?”
I seem to remember reading that too. But maybe that was just a theory?
Did anyone really ever question but that the culprit would ultimately prove to be Monsanto?
It’s not the GMO’s so much as the “why” they GM’d it in the first place.
They made it so that the plant could be saturated in roundup without killing the plant.
Then we eat the roundup. 100 million pounds a year.
Gd created the bee, without whom we could not survive. Man is given the choice: create good or create evil. GMO with insecticides and pesticides is us using Gd’s earth to make evil.
And this is an old theory, has been around since 2008.
They are magnificent indeed. I have been stung, but still love and respect them. A stingered society is a polite society!
It does sound like something from the X-files. I miss that show.
Farm insecticides has been killing bees since they started using insecticides. Back in the 80s if you put your bees on a farm the state would pay you if the bees go poisoned. Don’t know if they still do. Farming needs bees. But farming also kills bees.
I was talking to a bee keeper the other day and he said almond growers in California are bidding on bee keepers to bring their bees to their groves. So, there must be a shortage.
No natural mystery is ever considered truly solved until a solution that blames man is identified.
One of the other theories was that it was the Chinese-made hives and replacement parts, that is, the “wrong” plastic, as in toxic-to-bees was used.
At first, the news was that scientists suspected a virus, then a parasite, so what you’re saying does not surprise me. What *does* surprise me is this news about an insecticide. The next logical question being....
Now that is true, some people cannot get it in their little heads that your body does not break down food on the DNA level. If it did you would start mooing from drinking cows milk and if you eat a lot of fish you could grow gills. LOL
Monsanto is a scourge on global agriculture. It was only reasonable to assume that the problem would be located with them.
All I know is what I read a few years back. My brother has bee hives, we use the same produce for cattle, so I told him to put some in a little sugar water now and then. Since he is still giving me honey , I guess the little things are making it.
Actually, honey bees and carpenter bees are quite mild. They have to feel threatened before they’ll sting. Generally, they’ll just go about their business. It’s the yellowjacket wasps you have to watch out for. It seems like they’re spoiling for a fight.
This conclusion has zero to do with the scientific finding of this body of work. Coating of seeds as no relationship on whether the seeds are genetically modified or not. Genetic modification is a fair subject for discussion as I am sure it has in previous FR posts but the commercial use of these seed types predates the Obama years by a decade or two. I used the word “radical” solely to distinguish it from the natural selection for desirable traits that farmers have been doing since they planted the first seeds umpteen thousands of years ago (ex. using the healthiest/best yielding plants as seed corn for the next years crop).
, would be the same as vaccinating a person against an illness.
For me the carpenter bees are the really dangerous ones, because they drive me right up the ladder. (Armed with a syringe of DE and a bad attitude!)
There are multiple threats to honey bees. They’ve just recently discovered another one. A tiny fly lays its eggs inside a bees abdomen. The larva grows there until multiple flys emerge alien like killing it’s host.
I just lost the my 3rd of 3 hives last week. Mine showed signs of starvation though. I thought I had left them enough honey last fall and had even suplemented them a couple weeks ago. But I found a dead hive. Nothing more discouraging than a hive full of dead bees. Now i get to start from square one next month.
I hope so! I wish you, your brother, and his bees well. :-)
Carpenter bees have a different society from honey bees. The male carpenter bees have no stingers, even though it’s their job to protect the females. The males *look* very menacing and fly in all kinds of zig zag ways, or they’ll hover like little helicopters and stare you down. They will not hurt you. The females have stingers, and really have to be bothered for them to sting. One generation will live for only one year.
I try to learn about different creatures so I can deal with them in appropriate ways. The carpenter bees I’ve just left alone.
Is it possible for you to investigate as to the cause of death? This is so sad.
“One of the other theories was that it was the Chinese-made hives and replacement parts, that is, the wrong plastic, as in toxic-to-bees was used”
That wouldn’t surprise me a bit.
Except if they eat my upstairs porch out from under me, or I fall off the ladder while trying to kill them. More than one member of my family has taken their final ride on a stepladder.
While you are correct that GE corn’s use predates Obama, it is a well-known fact that Monsanto has close ties to this White House, and that the Administration is paving the way for the widespread approval other GE crops.
While the insecticide has much to do with the kill-off of the bee population, it’s also logical to conclude that crops that self-terminate such as GE corn also wreak havoc on the population of insects such as bees.
You sound as if you see nothing wrong with GMO crops. I suggest you do some more research.
wow, that’s a shocker !! NOT !!!!
I was spraying “Seven” on our shrubs this past weekend cause they were absolutely infested with deer ticks, and when reading the label it said it had a devestating effect on honey bees, big warnings.
So, massive quantities of pesticides being used in pharming, no big suprise there. Problem is, some of the corn itself is a pesticide, it is literally in the genes’s of the corn.
If we lose the bees there will be many hungry people.
ROFLOL, it is anti fungus treatment and the also put it on garden corn, so be careful it may get you.
Imidacloprid is a systemic insecticide which acts as an insect neurotoxin and belongs to a class of chemicals called the neonicotinoids. Neonicotinoids are a class of insecticides which act on the central nervous system of insects with lower toxicity to mammals. Although it is now off patent, the primary manufacturer of this chemical is Bayer CropScience, (part of Bayer AG). German chemical firm Bayer CropScience. The trade names for imidacloprid include Gaucho, Admire, Merit, Advantage, Confidor, Provado, and Winner. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imidacloprid Imidacloprid effects on bees - Industry-sponsored studies appear to be inconsistent with those produced by independent scientists. Even after 18 years of use, regulatory agencies still do not have conclusive data to determine the effects of imidacloprid on bee colonies. [47][48]
In February 2010, the documentary film Nicotine Bees was released. This film analyzes the possible factors contributing to the large bee die-offs worldwide and concludes that the large use of neonicotinoids is the most probable cause of the recent bee die-offs.[49]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imidacloprid_effects_on_bees
Assessment of the Environmental Exposure of Honeybees to Particulate Matter Containing Neonicotinoid Insecticides Coming from Corn Coated Seeds http://pubs.acs.org/action/doSearch?action=search&searchText=Neonicotinoid+Insecticides+&qsSearchArea=searchText&type=within&publication=40025991
How does this happen?
List of (70)crop plants pollinated by bees http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crop_plants_pollinated_by_bees
We are inching our way toward a critical tipping point, said Steve Ellis, secretary of the National Honey Bee Advisory Board (NHBAB) and a beekeeper for 35 years. Last year he had so many abnormal bee die-offs that hell qualify for disaster relief from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA).
In addition to continued reports of CCD a still somewhat mysterious phenomenon in which entire bee colonies literally disappear, alien-abduction style, leaving not even their dead bodies behind bee populations are suffering poor health in general, and experiencing shorter life spans and diminished vitality. And while parasites, pathogens, and habitat loss can deal blows to bee health, research increasingly points to pesticides as the primary culprit.
http://grist.org/food/2012-01-13-honey-bees-problem-nearing-a-critical-point/
Another theory had to do with the genetically modified corn plant was manufacturing a kind of pesticide and that the honeybees just ‘lost it’ when they reached a certain level of toxicity.
Another case of aiming at a pest and “killing a friendly.”
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