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Secret Service Spies on Free Republic (no kidding)
Free Republic Thread in Feb 17, 2012 ^ | 3 16 2012 | garjog

Posted on 03/16/2012 10:30:17 PM PDT by garjog

Just reading "New Details on NSA‘s ’Spy Center‘ and Secrets From Domestic Eavesdropping Operation ’Stellar Wind’-- The Blaze/ March 16, 2012" http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860168/posts

reminded me that I wanted to report to you all that the Secret Service spied on a post I set up to report on Obama using the athletic fields of our university here on the eastside of Seattle.

On Feb. 17 Obama made one of his frequent fundraising visits, this time to Washington State to shake down a couple billionaires who live near by. He spoke at Boeing in the morning, then flew to Kirkland.

The trip was a means to raise money for his re-election and was totally funded by taxpayers. SEVEN choppers and what seemed like a about 100 troops.

A couple weeks before the Secret Service contacted our small university, where I work, and asked if we would be willing to let the President use our fields to land seven choppers, including Marine One and Two.

The University agreed. So the day of classes on Friday, Feb. 17 was hopeless. The campus was like an armed military base as soon as the Black Hawks landed. It was so exciting, students didn't want to go to classes. It was like a free day.

Anyway I posted a thread inviting area Freepers to protest. We didn't know the details of exactly when he would arrive, so I kept an update for anyone interested.

Then at post number 15 comments by a user named "NU Grad" appeared. Hmmm. I didn't remember that user name before. He sounded like he was aware of the events and so I figured, OK, a former student in the area is a Freeper and got pinged for Washington State.

But, no. This guy was a Secret Service Troll pretending to be associated with Northwest University. He signed up on Feb. 17. I didn't think of checking when he became a member until later when I figured it out.

Before I realized he was a Government Troll, I Freeper mailed "NU Grad" and told him my name and asked him when he graduated just in case he was a former student who I knew personally. (Stupid me).

No response.

I am sure it was espionage because the admin was told that the Secret Service wanted to monitor our email system.

It would be logical that they would also do some kind of Internet key word monitoring as well.

They had a balcony on a building near the fields packed with some kind of electrical equipment. Guess to dampen road side bombs or something.

We saw snipers and plain clothed agents in the bushes or walking around looking like "students" with back packs, but they were too old to pull it off. Must have been about 8 snipers on the roofs and crouching around corners of buildings.

I mean, I am glad that these guys are doing their job to protect the President. It is impressive that they are so thorough.

But, it is kind of creepy that they pretended to be one of us just to monitor what we were saying.

(NOTE: If I go missing and end up in a secret prison somewhere you know what happened.)


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To: garjog

“Before I realized he was a Government Troll, I Freeper mailed “NU Grad” and told him my name and asked him when he graduated just in case he was a former student who I knew personally. (Stupid me).”

No response.”

The guy posted twice on the subject, you freepmailed him your real name, he never replied, and he’s a secret service agent? Is there something else I am missing here?

Freegards


101 posted on 03/17/2012 6:11:01 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You ain’t foolin anyone, Mister. :)

Just do what I did: Be honest! That you despise Obama politically, but you are grateful he’s safe!

(Can you IMAGINE the sh*tstorm following an unnatural event???? Gun bans across the board, schools named after him, his bust on Mt. Rushmore, maybe even on US currency!!! NO THANKS!!!)


102 posted on 03/17/2012 6:12:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: LucyT; RightOnline
"That the USSS monitors FR is not news, but bears repeating."

Wait. I didn't sign up for that. Did I?

"What you say here is read by a LOT of people. Never forget it."

I will not forget it. "Loose Lips Sink Ships." Also, "Say the Wrong Shizit and Get a Visit."

103 posted on 03/17/2012 6:15:58 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: Lazamataz; NUGrad

Lazamataz: You only say these cruel and hurtful things because you are a running dog lackey of Wall Street!

NUgrad: You have it on my word that Lazamataz is an enemy of the people and a threat to our beloved genius of the Rift Valley!


104 posted on 03/17/2012 6:49:52 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Jihad" is Arabic for "Helter-Skelter")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I don't think so.

Homey don't play dat.

105 posted on 03/17/2012 6:53:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz
Great post Laz. All my contacts with the SS during the Reagan Presidency were very positive. Very professional bunch of guys. My heart went out to them for the abuse they took from the Clinton gang.
106 posted on 03/17/2012 7:05:15 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: dr_lew

Meh... Very few of my posts are “innocuous”. For those bent on Socialism... I bear them ill will...

And no... I don’t care if they know. I am only one, insignificant person, but the sentiments I express are carried by many...


107 posted on 03/17/2012 7:08:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Steampunk- Yesterday's Tomorrow, Today)
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To: RightOnline
What you say here is read by a LOT of people. Never forget it.

Agreed. I have strongly suspected this since about 2000. I cannot recall a specific instance, but I do remember seeing editorials, articles and such using the exact words or phrases seen in replies on FR. Not to mention slogans that became bumper stickers, breaking scandals that went nationwide, under-reported stories that got legs and mentions of FR on Rush, Hannity, etc.

I have resigned myself to the idea that I may have a knock at my door one day because I am a regular visitor to FR.

108 posted on 03/17/2012 7:14:28 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Neo-communist equals Neo-fascist)
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To: VRW Conspirator
Agreed. I have strongly suspected this since about 2000. I cannot recall a specific instance, but I do remember seeing editorials, articles and such using the exact words or phrases seen in replies on FR

Example: I started saying "I'd hit it" and then it became an internet meme.

:)

No but seriously: I've actually started a meme or two. I remember when Giulani was running, and someone said something that you would kinda have to stretch, to make it an antiItalian slur, but stretch I did, and lo! and behold! In 24 hours it was on Rush. Shortly after that, Giuliani did his Victimy Lap, and he got some traction with it.

109 posted on 03/17/2012 7:26:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: upcountry miss

Thanks. They have a tough enough detail without us being detractors. They are truly patriotic, as are we. We are natural allies, the Secret Service and Free Republic.


110 posted on 03/17/2012 7:28:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union, then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: garjog

I seem to recall some stories where Jim had very early in the morning visits by the Secret Service over things people posted here.


111 posted on 03/17/2012 7:42:15 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Chgogal
I pray that the USSS is very successful in protecting President DumbA$$...

No matter what we think of Zero, an attack on the President is an attack on our nation, period. The Secret Service has a thankless job but they are the best at what they do.

112 posted on 03/17/2012 7:49:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Lazamataz

Ditto


113 posted on 03/17/2012 7:51:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: VRW Conspirator

Until or unless we go completely down the dictatorship rathole.....don’t expect a knock unless you say something particularly threatening, especially to the POTUS (doesn’t matter who he is).


114 posted on 03/17/2012 7:55:17 AM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
That end does not justify using unconstitutional means.

What was unconstitutional?

115 posted on 03/17/2012 8:04:27 AM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: garjog; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; ...
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need only threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

"Even paranoids have enemies" Henry Kissinger

116 posted on 03/17/2012 8:07:43 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1151 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: lefty-lie-spy
Basically, if you are on FR, you can consider yourself on file somewhere, but likely not a person of interest or even known to any agent; just an archived name in a file somewhere to be checked on some time in the future should the need arise.

You're right - but just think - for a moment - what this technology could do if the country went totalitarian.

117 posted on 03/17/2012 8:14:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
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To: garjog
Anyone who has a security clearance pretty much knows somebody is going to be monitoring them.
118 posted on 03/17/2012 8:23:54 AM PDT by McGruff (Newt Gingrich, the closest thing we've got to Sarah Palin.)
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To: null and void

Paranoia is the enemy of truth.

The most important thing you can do if you think you’re being paranoid is to slow down, focus, and trust in God to show you the way.


119 posted on 03/17/2012 8:31:10 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately---reason serves faith. See W.L. Craig, R. Zacharias, Erwin Lutzer, and others.)
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To: RightFighter; Admin Moderator
[Mods: I have a blog under the username "2branta" which includes and expands on information which I have disclosed to the US Secret Service. I hope you will consider leaving this comment up, but will, of course understand if you pull it.] Six years ago during the W Administration I “found myself” sitting in a Secret Service interrogation room in their local Dallas office. You know...a room where the tables and chairs are bolted to the floor and there is a big steel ring anchored to the floor with which to attach leg shackles...should that be necessary.

No, I had not been frog-marched in there on an anonymous tip. I volunteered to drive myself over to their office and they said “Come on down!” I told them that President Bush might be in danger in a manner that they might not have anticipated...and no, it did NOT involve a fellow liberal high school classmate...although the thought of reporting his did cross my mind from time to time, given the Bush Derangement Syndrome on display on occasion.

In that room, I explained to two Secret Service agents that Bush could be attacked in a manner that neither the government nor the general public appeared to be aware of...at least from what I could see on the web.

Once they had determined that I was not personally planning such an attack, they accepted some paperwork analysis that I brought with me and then escorted me back to my car where they requested that I allow them to examine the contents of my trunk, which I permitted. I had told them, only partially in jest, that bipolar mania with delusions ran in my family. Their parting words to me were “Mr. Seizethecarp, you might want to get your meds checked.”

I was subsequently able to get a branch of the military to take my speculations seriously, and a high level research director called me to thank me personally for making them aware of the danger.

Last December, after keeping silent for six years, a terrorist incident very close to my speculations prompted me to publish my presidential danger scenario here on FR in a thread, but it was pulled as suspected “loose lips.”

Sometimes there is not a hard line between “loose lips” and “forewarned is forearmed.”

While I was withholding my information from the public I found that the DOD does extensive research on how the president and the US public could be endangered by new technology or tactics and then makes those studies public, so long as secret technologies are not revealed.

By making attack scenarios public, the public can be enlisted to look out for suspicious persons who appear to be enabling themselves to make an attack. I regard my FR vanity as falling into that category, but that is not my call.

Before going public, I had to ask myself "Would I feel worse if a terrorist used my ideas, but at least there had been a chance for defenses to be prepared, or would I feel worse if a terrorist figured out the same vulnerability to an attack that I had imagined and then carried out a successful attack, but because neither I nor the government had not warned to public, the public had been unable to assist in thwarting the attack because they didn't know what to look for?"

Prior to the 911 attacks, there were countless US citizens who could have intervened to uncover the 911 plot if it had not been for "a failure of imagination" that such an audacious attack was possible and which persons to look for to keep an eye out for as persons engaging in suspicious activity. My attack scenario endangers not only the president but the general public as well.

While defensive measures can likely be concentrated on protecting the president from my imagined attack by augmenting existing protections in secret, IMO there is no way that the general public can be protected without getting the word out to the public on what to look for and undertaking expensive new measures.

While I would hope that the Admin Mods here on FR would lift the block on my thread, I understand there sensitivity and I can and have used other internet channels and a blog under the name "2branta" to get my information out there. For an idea striking enough to get pulled from FR, it has generated little buzz, so far, other than a "Thank you" from a Christian Science Monitor reporter, and a "This may be a real threat, but we better not discuss it" from a prominent high-tech entrepreneur, but time will tell.

120 posted on 03/17/2012 8:34:47 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Lazamataz
He could go on the $3 bill. It would be a natural...
121 posted on 03/17/2012 8:40:16 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1151 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: null and void

Homeland inSecurity is the most paranoid of all. This is so freaky.


122 posted on 03/17/2012 8:49:02 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: null and void

“To be a psychiatrist in this country is to be an expert in paranoia.” “Citizen X”

Paraphrase of another quote from the movie: The question isn’t whether you are paranoid. The question is whether you are paranoid enough.


123 posted on 03/17/2012 8:59:08 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: GOPJ

“what this technology could do if the country went totalitarian”

The people who use this technology are totalitarian already.


124 posted on 03/17/2012 9:00:57 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: null and void

“He could go on the $3 bill. It would be a natural...”
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Well, considering his “....badges?, we don’t have no badges...we don’t need no stinkin’ badges” situations, perhaps it would be more appropriate to put him on the one peso coin.


125 posted on 03/17/2012 9:02:43 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Graewoulf

It’s not likely, but wouldn’t it be cool if the US SS learned a little about liberty and the COTUS from trolling??? I know, it’s a pipe-dream.


126 posted on 03/17/2012 9:03:18 AM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: reasonisfaith
Paranoia is the enemy of truth.

The most important thing you can do if you think you’re being paranoid is to slow down, focus, and trust in God to show you the way.

See post #122...

127 posted on 03/17/2012 9:04:34 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1152 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: garjog

“New Details on NSA‘s ’Spy Center‘ and Secrets From Domestic Eavesdropping Operation ’Stellar Wind’— The Blaze/ March 16, 2012”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2860168/posts

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Pulled on 03/17/2012 7:50:36 AM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:

Wired


128 posted on 03/17/2012 9:27:07 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TheOldLady

what does the reason “wired” mean?


129 posted on 03/17/2012 9:50:07 AM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: combat_boots

16 March might have been the kickoff date for Operation Ramp Up the Meds.

From http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2115871/The-CIA-wants-spy-TV-Agency-director-says-net-connected-gadgets-transform-surveillance.html#ixzz1pNPJA9xM

Everything from remote controls to clock radios can now be controlled via apps - and chip company ARM recently unveiled low-powered, cheaper chips which will be used in everything from fridges and ovens to doorbells.

The resultant chorus of ‘connected’ gadgets will be able to be read like a book - and even remote-controlled, according to CIA CIA Director David Petraeus, according to a recent report by Wired’s ‘Danger Room’ blog.

Petraeus says that web-connected gadgets will ‘transform’ the art of spying - allowing spies to monitor people automatically without planting bugs, breaking and entering or even donning a tuxedo to infiltrate a dinner party...

An Ides of March tribute... Et tu Frigidaire? ;>)


130 posted on 03/17/2012 9:52:08 AM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: RummyChick

Sorry, no idea. Just announcing that the thread was pulled.


131 posted on 03/17/2012 9:53:42 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: garjog

We are in the middle of a revolution. Tax payers should not be paying for the usurper’s campaign crap.


132 posted on 03/17/2012 9:54:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: rolling_stone

Investigate fraud in connection with identification documents, fraudulent commerce, fictitious instruments
________________________
Well damn, I don’t think they have time to mess around on FR, it sounds like they have a full time job on their hands investigating Barry Soetoro, the fraud they are supposed to protect.


133 posted on 03/17/2012 9:57:44 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: steve86

When did someone ask you to quit posting on FR?


134 posted on 03/17/2012 9:58:39 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Lancey Howard
That needed to be bigger and bolder

The Secret service is comprised of a whole lot of top-notch people, including former military. These guys (and gals) are typically very patriotic. How ironic is it that they find themselves having to protect a sick, corrupt, communist, America-hating piece of dog sh** like Ubama?

135 posted on 03/17/2012 10:00:32 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: GOP Poet

“this is all because he didn’t freepmail back?”

My suspecion is justified.
1. No reply to my message. If he really was a former student he would have replied. We are a small school and I am pretty well known. If he was conservative, he would want to connect with me (since not all profs are).
2. The details of his messages are silly. No one would say that in our community. He mentions Jewish speakers. That’s because I invited Michael Medved to speak, but he is just about the only Jew I can remember speaking to our chapel. No one would say that if they were really a student. Also, students don’t care about denominations. They would not comment on this detail.
3. The SS told the university that they would monitor our email. I figure that they would be monitoring chat like FR too.
4. He appeared on Feb. 17, then never posted again.
5. I asked him in mail and in a post and got no reply.


136 posted on 03/17/2012 10:09:58 AM PDT by garjog
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To: Kevmo

I am puzzled to. Why beat around the bush, why not just say who told him to stop posting. Was it FR or SS or someone else? I checked past posts and see nothing that would warrant a stop posting order.


137 posted on 03/17/2012 10:20:47 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Joe Boucher

LMAO!


138 posted on 03/17/2012 10:24:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: RummyChick
what does the reason “wired” mean?

Probably that wired.com appears on the list headed These publishers have asked us not to allow any material at all to be posted to FR: on this page. The pulled thread was an article in theblaze.com which extensively excerpts this more detailed article in Wired.

139 posted on 03/17/2012 10:28:17 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: mojitojoe

Just the facts mojitojoe,
jut the facts


140 posted on 03/17/2012 10:34:59 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

You can screw with them if you know how to do it. Messing up their keyword searches is one way.


141 posted on 03/17/2012 10:37:31 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: garjog

WHatever this helo was for it was most definitely NOT Marine One. It may have had secret service or other personnel in it. Single pilot, way too small a craft, and while I know that Marine One is whatever the Pres flies in this would not have been carrrying any Pres.

But the rest of your post was interesting.


142 posted on 03/17/2012 10:43:47 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: TheOldLady

Why was that thread pulled? what do they mean by wired? The article is in lots of places on the internet:

http://tarpon.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/new-details-on-nsas-spy-center-and-secrets-from-domestic-eavesdropping-operation-stellar-wind/


143 posted on 03/17/2012 10:53:42 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: RedStateRocker; garjog

DU actually had their own watcher, “Agent Mike”. During Bush’s second inauguration, DU posters were asking how to make a gun out of a camera. I believe their board went “private” for a few days. I’m sure that all forums are watched. It really IS necessary.


144 posted on 03/17/2012 11:11:06 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Joe Boucher

Oh yea, I agree!


145 posted on 03/17/2012 11:11:46 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe

I don’t know. I don’t know.

http://tarpon.wordpress.com/2012/03/16/new-details-on-nsas-spy-center-and-secrets-from-domestic-eavesdropping-operation-stellar-wind/

Good!


146 posted on 03/17/2012 11:14:28 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: null and void

My new tag.


147 posted on 03/17/2012 11:32:05 AM PDT by ILS21R (I know you know I know)
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To: garjog

So he was a troll, but SS? I think you have an excellent imaginative mind. there is more than enough to see this person might have been a troll, but not Secret Service. Not from what I am seeing. By the way of course they monitor these sights and possibly in this case locked into watching you, but interact. No. Not happening on this one.


148 posted on 03/17/2012 11:45:57 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: garjog

That’s nothing. Back in 2009 and 10, I had all sorts of problems whenever I’d get onto an eligibility post on FR. My computer would freeze and go wonky. It never happened at any other time so I knew something was up. It was most disruptive when I’d do research into bozo’s eligibility and “they’d” wait until I was ready to hit the post button and blam! everything would disappear. I wasn’t the only one it was happening to. I eventually would include a shout out to the man behind the computer screen. During that time, I went through 2 major crashes on different computers which I blame entirely on the spy. I finally quit doing any research so “they” won and left me alone. Of course, now “they’ll” probably be back screwing with me.

Hey, has anyone heard from NaturalBorn54 or BP2? They used to post on eligibility threads but then disappeared. NaturalBorn54 and I were looking at the Seattle apt. and he/she said he/she had found that it was all a fake and that he/she was ready to publish an article proving it and that was the last time I heard from him/her. BP2 was absolutely brilliant at digging stuff up, too. There were others who disappeared during the first 2-3 years of this admin. It’s very strange that so many who were doing research and seemed involved in FR suddenly quit posting.


149 posted on 03/17/2012 12:01:39 PM PDT by bgill (Romney & Obama are both ineligible. A non-NBC GOP prez shuts down all ?s on Obama's admin)
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To: RightFighter
Actually, now that I read through the thread from 2004, it appears maybe it was the IP and then my ISP probably provided a name and phone number.

Once they have your name, I expect it's not so hard for them to find out where you work. Especially if they ask, and you answer.

If you had posted from work, their task would have been tougher. Only the more organized employers would be tracking which computer accessed which web site through the company connection.

Posting from a WiFi hotspot would be even tougher. They might get lucky interviewing the hotspot provider: Oh, yeah, there's this one guy who hangs out a table in the back sipping his latte. Doaks, I believe. Joe Doaks. Always uses his Visa card ...

On the other hand, if you post from work, from home, and from random hotspots, then it gets easy ...

150 posted on 03/17/2012 12:02:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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