Posted on 03/17/2012 10:45:17 AM PDT by God-fear-republican
Why Healthcare Mandate is not legally warranted while Car Insurance is (Vanity)
1.Car insurance or medical liability insurance is required before you take a risky action to fulfill your obligation in case of wrong doing or causing damage to other people. Otherwise, the burden will be imposed to the society unfairly.
2. Healthcare mandate requires one paying for something which can be considered morally but not legally responsible for because of the absence of wrong doings.
3.Taking care citizens especially one in need is the responsibility and function of a government and its elected leaders, not mandatory on individual citizens.
4.Healthcare mandate is drafted with flaws and willful intention for many details to be interpreted and and executed by the Executive branch, without review by members of Congress, many voted without reading the document.
5.Healthcare mandate gives room for the violation of conscience clause or religious freedom, directly assault on judicial tradition, in the case of contraception and abortion imposed on the Catholic institutions.
6.Healthcare mandate demands a forceful purchase of a undesirable and unnecessary service to certain individuals, therefore, violating their freedom. For example, my government cannot force me to buy a new car while I already have a car. They can tax me to obtain revenue for fixing roads as they provide a service or force me to pay gas tax to provide free transportation for the inner city poor for the welfare of the nation. But taxing is different than mandating a particular service.
Let's hear your thought on the issue.
Government controlled healthcare is a pillar of Communism. THAT is why Obama and Democrats want it. To CONTROL you.
Unlike the health care mandate where you are forced to buy insurance simply because you exist, auto insurance pertains to an activity and involves securing the privilege of a state license. No more distinction is needed.
“3.Taking care citizens especially one in need is the responsibility and function of a government and its elected leaders, not mandatory on individual citizens. “
Absolutely false.
I reject the whole thesis of your post. Car INSURANCE is NOT mandatory as long as you can pay for any damages that you cause in an accident. One can post a bond for this purpose ( also known as self-insurance).
Moreover, if I never buy or drive a car I have no need for said insurance,
In terms of medical care... again as long as I can pay my medical bills why should I have to buy insurance???? If I chose to never use medical care for my self why would I want to pay for said insurance.
Free socities allow the citizens to make their choices...even freer ones allow the individual the dignity to incur the consequences of their choices
Also, it is more of a State issue to begin with, there are a couple of States that do not require it IIRC.
1- auto insurance is guided by the states, not the Feds...
2- not every state requires you to require auto insurance, there are some where you can drive your car uninsured...
3- in the other states you are only required to buy auto insurance if you buy a car- yet no one is requiring you to buy a car...
First of all, car insurance is required by the individual states....not the federal government.
Second of all, and this is simple: Driving on the roads is an optional activity. Mere existence is not.
* Someone can choose not to drive and live without a car. They may live somewhere with excellent public transportation, move to a walkable community or use taxis. Driving and driver’s insurance is something one can chose to opt-out of. You cannot opt out of healthcare, but you can avoid the public system.
* Health care only poses a burden on others if it payment is forced upon others. From health cost sharing ministries to groups that rely on charity of the group (Amish, some Muslims) to those who pay cash for their own care, medical insurance is not necessary to get care and there are non-insurance methods of managing catastrophic costs.
* To put into law that illegal immigrants receive care for free without paying for it is the opposite of laws for auto insurance. An illegal alien who drives without auto insurance is violating the law. An illegal alien who uses public funded health insurance is not only burdening others but is NOT breaking the law for not having health insurance. This is a double standard that discriminates against tax payers by requiring them to pay for insurance others do not AND penalizes them for not having it while those here illegally (and breaking the law to do so) are not penalized. This may be double jeopardy but it is unequal treatment under the law, with criminals actually treated better under the law than those paying for it.
In my opinion ,mandatory car insurance is BS,too.Previously you could still sue the person who injured you if they did or did not have insurance.With required insurance and no-fault laws,insurance premiums are up not down as they promised us!
Requiring insurance for any one activity will inevitably lead to requiring insurance for all activities.
Lack of insurance and fear of lawsuits already is a major factor in many things not being done today that were once commonplace and the risks were accepted .In my father’s time and in my youth, boys playing baseball with sticks and improvised bases was common,now the neighbors,owner, and incipient busybodies call the police for fear of injury and lawsuits.
The ones who most benefit from mandatory insurance are the insurance companies.
Absolutely agree. Using ‘risk’ as a fulcrum for restricting, banning or taxing any activity is a charter for tyranny as we have found time and again with the state’s incrementalism.
I appreciate the author’s zeal in attempting to take one of the left’s pet arguments off the table but making one half of their case for them is not the way to do it.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR INPUTS, THIS IS GREAT!!! I MYSELF LEARN A LOT.
WE ARE FACING TYRANNY HERE.
1. But not owning a car.
2. By Owning A car but not driving it on the Public Roads.
See you are mandated to have insurance because you are taking responsibility for your actions while driving a large hunk of metal at high speeds which often leads to destruction of property and bodily injury and/or death.
But you can opt out of such by not driving a vehicle on those public roads.
A mandate to have Health Insurance has no way to opt out at all unless you choose not to live.
So when some asshat libtard tries to use mandatory car insurance as a justification for Mandatory health insurance explain to them its not even close to the same issue.
Precisely. All of the selling points about 'uninsured motorist coverage' are falsehoods - no surprise there. The irresponsible people are exactly that. They will ignore any law therefore paying more in premiums by responsible drivers helps nobody but the state and the insurance companies - shocking!
If car insurance worked like health insurance, we would have co-pays for oil changes and tires would be controlled substances.
It covers the "other guy" if you run into him.
The way I understand it is: Obamacare health mandate = federal. Vehicle insurance = state. A state can mandate health insurance; the U.S. government cannot. Of course, Obama, et al., continue to do many things “the U.S. government cannot” do — and he is never thwarted. Hence, we have a dictatorship.
You have to have a body to be alive.
The government wants to take money from you that you could have spent on health care, and spend it on other people and things, and then when you need health care they want to evaluate your "need" to see if you are worth spending any money on.
Indentured servitude. Plain and simple.
They control your health,they control your life; they control your life , they control your freedom; they control freedom, they control your thought; they control your thought, they control your soul.
And more importantly, they do the same to your loved ones.
I see no other way out - Give me freedom or give me death.
When I was a kid I must have heard that “driving was a privilege” a million times.
You know what? I think it is a right and the government has no business licensing you. Now if you cause an accident while driving drunk, then by all means come down hard on me.
BTW, I think I see more ads for car insurance than any other thing. It must be one heck of a racket. The government makes you buy it.
I have never had an accident and haven’t had a ticket in over 30 years yet I am paying more for car insurance than I am for gas, a lot more and I have minimal coverage.
After my company kept increasing my premiums, I switched to another company which is a lot less expensive but still is high.
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