Skip to comments.Are middle-class American kids too lazy?
Posted on 03/18/2012 12:05:02 PM PDT by Redcat
Remember when you were a kid and your evenings and weekends were spent doing chores like drying the dishes, cleaning your room, raking the leaves, scrubbing the toilet and whatever else your parents could think of having you do the second you opened your mouth and said, Im bored?
According to some anthropologists, those days are over. Kids in middle-class American families have become complacent; they expect their parents to do everything for them. And why do they expect their parents to do everything for them? Well, because their parents do everything for them!
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Most American kids are lazy these days.
My wife works in a supermarket, and can confirm that. Is it worse than when I was a teen? I don’t know, but I’ve talked to gym teachers who tell me that kids are much heavier and sedentary.
I have to admit that one of my nephews is a lazy little s**t. Brother had an emergency and nephew and I were manual labor for digging a 40 ft ditch, 3 ft deep in clay (around other utilities, so no backhoes).
I literally worked him into the ground. 6 months later he still pouted when he saw me. ;)
Most American kids are lazy these days.
So are most adults. I’m not excusing the kids but with the role models we give them, it’s no wonder.
I literally worked him into the ground. 6 months later he still pouted when he saw me. ;)
I can’t blame him. I even have motivation problems digging in clay.
I was born in 64 so for most of my first 20 years we had black and white TV with 2 channels (3 on good days) and no video games. I spent my childhood on my bike and on the move.
I have no doubt that kids today are lazier and more spoiled than in generations past. However, any parents that want to complain about that might be better off looking in the mirror.
I would hate to be a kid today. Sure, there’s lots of electronic gee-whizzery to keep children busy, but in many ways, life for kids isn’t as fun as it used to be.
In playgrounds, teeter-totters, merry-go-rounds, jungle gyms and metal slides have disappeared, apparently due to high insurance costs and the threat of lawsuits. Same goes for diving boards at swimming pools—probably the reason that Americans no longer dominate the sport of diving, which they did for decades. In any case, one rarely sees kids playing outside anymore.
I was too, back in the 'Olden Days." But my parents and the rest of society simply didn't put up with it like they do now. I learned to work hard. Minimum wage laws and societal pressure to coddle kids have also taken a toll on the number of kid jobs available now.
Kids need to sit down and watch the movie The Patriot. They just might get inspired to learn more about their country, how it was founded, how it was built and how it has lasted so long as the free nation that is is/was.
I can attest to that first-hand. When I started working on a maintenance crew a year ago to pay for college, I thought I knew how to cut grass, chip paint, and wash toilets.
I was wrong. Its awkward when you cut a whole field with a weed-whacker, and then have an ex-army foreman come to see if you've finished putting a stone wall back up.
In the sixties and 70s we were always on the go. Our parents didn’t pay too much attention to us (kind of a good thing compared to now). We played cards, water skiied and actually had dates-one on one in high school. The boy had to call our house phone and actually speak to our parents if they answered. So fun waiting on that phone to ring for a date. My mother and father’s generation read and played jigsaw puzzles. Things that require patience and concentration for a reward. Those days are gone with all the instant gratification and slobbering parents and texting etc. I think it’s sad for them.
When I was nine years old, about the time Nikita Khrushchev was banging his shoe at the UN, I got plenty of exercise riding my bike around West Whittier, Calif. I would regularly ride more than a mile in each direction, and I knew every back alley in the neighborhood.
Today, it’s doubtful that a nine-year-old in that neighborhood would even be allowed to venture into his front yard, let alone ride anywhere on a bike.
>> nephew and I were manual labor for digging a 40 ft ditch, 3 ft deep in clay
What are you guys doing tomorrow? I have a plugged septic leach line I need to get after. :-)
Youth really is wasted on the young these days.
I think most teenagers would be happy to leave home and go immediately to a nursing home to be taken care of for the rest of their lives.
People aren’t born knowing how to work hard (or anything for that matter), they have to be taught.
The problem is that many kids today are raising themselves with disastrous results... (i.e. they live at home and the parents pay the bills, but that is about it).
I remember my mom borrowing some guy’s belt so she could spank me and my sister in the parking lot because we were playing freeze tag in the grocery store.
>> I think most teenagers would be happy to leave home and go immediately to a nursing home to be taken care of for the rest of their lives.
Digging is part technique, and part contemplation and prayer for me. And sometimes, working on engineering solutions to technical problems in my regular field of work.
yes. dumb and lazy. next question
Which is why God created fathers and NCOs.
>> Digging is part technique, and part contemplation and prayer for me.
Please help me pray that I’ll *find* the darn thing before digging up an entire acre. :-)
Tell you what, though: I moved recently from central Texas limestone to blackland clay; as hard as the clay can be when it’s dry, I greatly prefer it over the rock! And now that the soil is damp, at least it’s feasible.
IMO/FWIW ETC - I remember snowmobiling in the Adirondacks, going camping/fishing with friends, building campfires, bicycling everywhere, on and off road, building ‘camps’ in the woods one could actually live in, working on heavy equipment with my grandfather...
Oh and that was before I hit the ripe old age of about 12...most of it long before. Personally I don’t blame kids for being what they are. Government and paranoid parents have forbidden kids to be kids and punish them when they behave/act like normal (by the standard of my generation and prior) kids.
Why do kids spend their lives immersed in a virtual world? Because the real one is off limits. They can only live out their natural tendencies in video games.
Try (kids)’playing army’ today and watch child protective services call the DHS over a band of terrorists training in the forest.
Kidding aside I saw a kid sent to a ‘safety training course’ by the court because he built a campfire in his back yard. And yes his parents were there.
Nope. Don’t blame them a bit. If we ever get rid of libs then I’ll be concerned but until it stops being a criminal act to be a normal kid or a parent of one, until it stops being a crime to trespass in the king’s forest, I hope all the electronic gadgets get better so they don’t go stark raving insane.
I'm back in the neighborhood I was raised in after 40mumble years, and I still know how to go from point a to point b without using the roads for more than crossing.
Of course, here, lots of the same folks are still in the neighborhood, and much harder of hearing, so I don't get peppered with rock salt nearly as often. ;)
But only about 10% of the kids spend much time outside here. Most come home from school, lock the door, and wait for Mom or her boyfriend to get home.
Since my last post I’ve been outside where I dug up a couple of 10 foot strips of sod to expand my garden. The sod went to a couple of low spots in another part of the yard.
Lazy is too, er, lazy a term.
The same pressures are brought to bear on each generation but I think the biggest problem is that the pressure on kids is arbitrarily and artificially relieved by adults who should know better.
A tough test is made less tough by open-book rules. Standardized tests are sabotaged by the very people responsible for administering them as standards are lowered and ‘achievement’ is more easily obtained. Graduate, get a job and live your life has been replaced by taking a semester or a year off that turns into many more with far too many 25-30 year olds residing under their parents’ roof (how does either side stand it?). Graduate school is not a manifestation of the desire for more advanced learning but merely a way to prolong one’s time in the educational cocoon. Jobs that were once the only thing standing between a young adult and homelessness are quit on a whim since another one is around the corner and of course there’s always mom and dad’s free room and board.
Kids and adults who think that raising the minimum wage is great for entry level workers don’t realize that stratifying all inexperienced workers means that a business cannot financially justify paying the good workers more since labor costs must be contained either by paying $8/hr for a bad worker and $12/hr for a good one or just paying them both $10/hr as mandated by law. Lazy thinking you might say.
The pitfalls of immaturity can be mistaken for a larger, more ominous trend but there can be no doubt that today’s youth are quick to anger, quick to deflect blame, slow to engage in introspection, and much more likely to engage in mob behavior as a means of settling disputes and as a means of self-preservation since they fear being ostracized above all else. Is it laziness? Complacency? Cowardice?
Whatever you call it, there can be no doubt that developing so many weak-minded individuals has been a rousing success for the left in terms of creating fertile planting beds for their various strains of political madness.
Use a sharp-shooter shovel, use a file on the shovel before you start, and pry the crap out. You can't dig it like sand. Shelf it out.
My cousin, who is 4 months older than me, has never worked a real job...
(except when she delivered papers for her 23 year old daughter, who was too lazy to get out of bed, to do it herself)
...just babysitting a kid or 2 for siblings or nieces or nephews.
Now my cousins daughter (who was to lazy to get out of bed to deliver papers) did work at McDonalds for about 6 months (she was fired because of being unreliable)...
(but of course, it wasn't her fault...according to my cousin)
She also worked at a gas station for a few months (where she was also fired from...reason unknown...but my cousin tells me it was somebody elses fault)
Now this daughter is trying to get an apartment through some government aid thing. A few years ago, my cousin told me her daughter couldn't work because of bad knees, and that they were going to have a Dr claim she was disabled. After hearing this numerous times over 2-3 years (and no Dr ever claiming she was disabled), now the latest is that my cousins daughter hears voices. So now CMH (County Mental Health???) is going to help her get an apartment and...
That was a year ago...now it seems there is som other agency they are going to get her help with.
Same cousin different daughter.
My cousin was getting Welfare or Unemployment (even though she's never had a real job).
Seems she was getting very little from the government. I asked about her getting more because of her son in HS and her other daughter who graduated HS last year, is a "full time" student at the local community college. She said she would have gotten X amount more, if her daughter would also work X amount of hours a week plus "full time" student status. My cousin claimed her daughter couldn't work...she was a full time student. I told my cousin I worked 30-40 hours a week when I was a "full time" student, and 50-60 hours a week during breaks.
This same cousin has to do some type of training or "volunteer work" or something, in lieu of this government check. Well, according to my cousin, her supervisor or claim agent or whatever, "got snotty" with her, because she took her 20 year old daughter to a Dr, an 1-1/2 hours away, for specialty diagnosis, 3 times over about 1-1/2 to 2 months. Supposedly, this person told my cousin she needed to treat her position like a job. Upon which my cousin got indignant and told her that she was a good parent and that her kids take precidence.
Question: Why would anybody make a big deal about attendance over 3 Drs visits over a 1-1/2 to 2 month period (unless of course there's more than just 3 Drs visits involved.)
Now the same cousin just had Carpal Tunnel surgery done on one hand, then 6 weeks later on the other hand.
This same cousin at Thanksgiving in 2010, was telling the story of how she went to a charity to get a stove. (Their house mysteriously burned, while they were all out camping...oh yeah...her husband for 2 years, constantly talked about wishing their house would burn down because they couldn't afford it)
So, this charity offered her what she said was a camping stove. She got upset and indignant with them, that she had a family to feed and couldn't do it on a camping stove.
My response was: So let me get this straight. You GO to a CHARITY and it GIVES you a FREE stove and you got mad because it wasn't good enough for you.
To which all my other relatives laughed and nodded to.
My cousin angered by this responded: That THEY had plenty of full size stoves there and could give her one.
My response was: Maybe they were ALL ALREADY spoken for, that other people needed them.
She said: That they could give her one and get another for somebody else.
My response was: That these stoves are donated by people and that it might be awhile before others came in. Was she willing to take from somebody ELSE who was in need???
My cousin got real mad about that.
So we all switched the conversation.
(My thought on the charity offering her a camp stove is, that she has probably been in there a time or 2 before getting other things from them, and that a camp stove was their way of giving her something, anything, so that they could give to someone else who wasn't a habitual charity case. (maybe they also knew the background of the fire...they live in a small rural town)
My thoughts on my cousin are: Don't tell me why you CAN'T work. Tell me why you HAVE TO work.
Too many people have EXCUSES why they can't work. Few have REASONS why they have to.
One last thought. This check my cousin gets from the government. IF she would go and get a full time job at McDonalds (or Burger King or Taco Bell or...)(or 2 part time jobs) she'd make more in one week than she gets in one month from the government.
>> Since my last post Ive been outside where I dug up a couple of 10 foot strips of sod to expand my garden...
Hey, who needs a stinkin’ gym membership when you’ve got a few acres and a shovel, right?
I hear you! I live in a development, and when my kids were young -- they're now 22 and 17 -- I let them roam the development. A lot of other parents didn't, but I felt they needed some opportunities for playing outside. When I was a kid, though, I loved bike riding; up until the time I got a driver's license I loved to ride a bike. I'd ride for hours. Nowadays, kids have to wear helmets. What kid beyond the age of nine is willing to wear a helmet? So you don't see kids riding bikes anymore. That's why my kids weren't interested in it.
Most American kids are lazy these days.
I NEVER thought I would ever disagree with you on anything in my whole life. lol. But I do. Kids in middle class to upper middle class are involved in tons of activities outside the home. Between going to school, sports activities, civil activities and other events, they just don’t have the time to do the things that we as children did. For example, wash and dry dishes? Really? That is why every home in America has a dishwasher. Kids are plenty busy. Now lower income families might have this story as more accurate as they don’t have the disposable income to have kids do activities so they purchase a 300 dollar gaming system and let them play all day. If it was a story about lower income kids being lazy, I would support that.
I was feral. Still am in many ways.
Digging in stuff was a great thing.
I still remember a geology class from college that had a field trip element to it, complete with those little hammer things. The prof made a big deal of it. We went to where I used to roam and spend hours as a kid digging for stuff. I knew right where everything was. I was glad to get college credit for digging in dirt I had known for years and years.
Thanks for the tips!
Since the first part of *any* unknown do-it-yourself job is to hit the Interwebz for advice — especially since you can do that from the comfort of your sofa — I’m already prepared with the rebar, just have to attach the handle. I read that you can make the probe slip in better by welding a ball-bearing to the business end, diameter just a little larger than the bar — ever heard of that? It makes sense but might be easier said than done.
Sharpening the sharpshooter is a sensible and easy thing to do that I hadn’t thought of yet.
You make me feel guilty. On Thursday and Friday I took off work to get some things down around the yard. Well I ranked and bagged leaves on our 2 acres and was in traction on Saturday and feeling a bit better today. lol. Worst two days off ever.....
Today, its doubtful that a nine-year-old in that neighborhood would even be allowed to venture into his front yard, let alone ride anywhere on a bike.
You must close to my age. My two sisters and I had to walk to school most days, unless it was pouring rain. I didn't have a bike until I was in my late 20s and I paid for it myself. I grew up on a farm and worked the livestock before and after school.
It's an unwritten law that there is NEVER one in the pickup when you need it.
My brother must have a dozen of 'em.
I don't use a shovel, grubbing hoe, or garden hoe without a file handy. They are bladed tools that are intended to be sharp.
I was born in '62, so can relate. We had 6 channels (in Chicago)
I had a paper route in 6th grade. Got up at 5am, 6 days a week to deliver papers. Did that for 4 years.
Was a busboy my junior and senior year of HS, after school for 2 years.
Went to a community college "full time" while working 30-40 hours a week, 50-60 hours during breaks, putting myself through school.
Today I work construction. Often times working 10-12 hour days. Sometimes 14, 16 or even 24 hours.
Currently I'm working 10 hours a day 6 days a week, while commuting 120 miles round trip.
One time a cousin of mine, a few years younger was complaining about HOW HARD her job was (restaurant work bussing tables, washing dishes, restocking the salad bar), and the hours she works (part time)
After hearing this 3,4 or 5 times in a few hours, I asked her: You do realize what I DO for a living? The hours I WORK? The AMOUNT of hours I WORK? And how far I DRIVE to get there?
(considering I DID what she DOES, when I was in HS and college age)
We aren’t really disagreeing. There are a lot of other things kids do today that just weren’t available back in the olden days of the 1970s.
I was rural meaning I spent my time between my little farming community and the lakes fields and woods. When I was 10 years old, it wasn’t unusual for a few of us to ride bikes the 3 miles down the railroad bed to go fishing
And then we wonder where the whole entitlement mentality comes from. These are ugly “unintended consequences” to ‘wanting our kids to have it better than we did’ and parents expressing their own affluence through their kids. (Hard truth: what other reason would someone have for buying their 15 year old a very expensive car to drive to school or designer clothes?) Being born in the 50s and being a business owner in the 80s, I could write a book. I bet many people here could. The 80s was when things really started going off the rails (& it’s SO much worse now).
It’s an important post, Redcat- one that we should think deeply about, analyze carefully, & act to correct PDQ. I’m very afraid that “Occupy” isn’t as bad as it could get. I think we are on the brink of socialism/ outright communism as a direct result. Demanding children with compliant parents have become entitled adults who (cunningly) portray themselves as somehow helpless. (This is learned behavior.)
MOST vote for Obama or Willard Romney.. or Santo or Paul..
Almost all have never read Newts plans on his website..
If even they care..
I’ll ask my boys about this as soon as they get done with the yard.
I think you've hit on one of the problems, among others.
Mine sure aren’t. Twenty-four and eighteen, and they both work like sled dogs.
Excellent post, Norm.....all true.
I think you hit the nail on the head here. What worries me most is the sense of entitlement many kids seem to have these days. Obama won the youth vote by a large margin in 2008. He was cool, hip and was going to give everyone free stuff. Youth today seem to have little ability to see beyond the style.
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