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South Carolina Teacher Suspended For Reading 'Ender's Game' To Middle School Students
Forbes ^ | 3/19/2012 | Erik Kane

Posted on 03/20/2012 12:36:10 PM PDT by fremont_steve

In South Carolina a teacher has been placed on administrative leave for reading excerpts of Orson Scott Card’s science fiction classic Ender’s Game to his middle school students.

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Education
KEYWORDS: censorship; endersgame; orsonscottcard; pornography
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1 posted on 03/20/2012 12:36:25 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: fremont_steve
Any teacher who reads "The Giver" to children should be shot.
2 posted on 03/20/2012 12:38:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: fremont_steve

Idiots, this book is not pornographic.


3 posted on 03/20/2012 12:42:16 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: fremont_steve

If you read further in the article, it sounds as if the book is one of three used as an excuse to cover up the filth she was really reading.


4 posted on 03/20/2012 12:46:45 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: fremont_steve

Ender’s Game (1985) is a science fiction novel by American author Orson Scott Card.[1] Set in Earth’s future, the novel presents an imperiled humankind who have barely survived two conflicts with the Formics (an insectoid alien species also known as the “Buggers”). These aliens show an ant-like group behavior, and are very protective of their leader, much like Earth ants protecting their queen. In preparation for an anticipated third invasion, an international fleet maintains a school to find and train future fleet commanders. The world’s most talented children, including the novel’s protagonist, Ender Wiggin, are taken at a very young age to a training center known as the Battle School. There, teachers train them in the arts of war through increasingly difficult games including ones undertaken in zero gravity in the Battle Room where Ender’s tactical genius is revealed.

The book originated as the short story “Ender’s Game”, published in the August 1977 issue of Analog Science Fiction and Fact.[2] Elaborating on characters and plot lines depicted in the novel, Card later wrote additional books to form the Ender’s Game series. Card released an updated version of Ender’s Game in 1991, changing some political facts to accurately reflect the times.

Reception to the book has generally been positive, though some critics have denounced Card’s perceived justification of his characters’ violent actions.[3][4] It has also become suggested reading for many military organizations, including the United States Marine Corps.[5] Ender’s Game won the 1985 Nebula Award for best novel[6] and the 1986 Hugo Award for best novel.[7] Its sequels, Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind, and Ender in Exile, follow Ender’s subsequent travels to many different worlds in the galaxy. In addition, the later novella A War of Gifts and novel Ender’s Shadow take place during the same time period as the original. Ender’s Game has been adapted into two comic series.

A film adaptation of the same name directed by Gavin Hood and starring Asa Butterfield as Ender is planned to be released on March 15, 2013.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender’27s_Game


5 posted on 03/20/2012 12:47:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: fremont_steve

This was one of our daughters assigned books to read when she was in 7th or 8th grade (I can’t remember which). She really like the story. I also read the book, so that she & I could discuss it. My memory sucks these days, but I do not remember any part of it being pornographic.


6 posted on 03/20/2012 12:48:37 PM PDT by TheMom (Stressed spelled backwards is Desserts!)
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To: fremont_steve

Reading the updates at the bottom of the article it looks like Ender’s Game was a problem due to swear words. The pornography complaint seemed to be a separate issue with something that the teacher read from the Internet.


7 posted on 03/20/2012 12:48:37 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: BenLurkin

Not sure why you feel this way, its standard reading fair for middle school... in my day we read Farenheight 451 which had similar themes but was not written specifically for kids.

I am not sure why anyone would find “The Giver” overly offensive.


9 posted on 03/20/2012 12:49:04 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: fremont_steve

This is not a freedom of speech issue, since he was reading the book to his class as part of his professional duties. It is, however, an issue of some parents being dumber than dirt. Ender’s Game is an excellent book for kids that age, and there are no sections of the book that are even close to pornographic. The school system needs to read the book, tell the mother that she is a moron, and get that teacher back in his classroom so he can teach the kids.


10 posted on 03/20/2012 12:49:49 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: fremont_steve

Fear not. The teacher who replaces this menace to society will be muslim, lesbian and teaching from the school board approved GLBT handbook on ‘Fisting’ so no worries.

Thank GOD they removed a classic Sci-Fi story from the minds of our youth! Best that space be filled with ‘gay’ issues and tolerance.


11 posted on 03/20/2012 12:50:03 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: All

what is this sci fi book about?


12 posted on 03/20/2012 12:50:37 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Norm Lenhart

They better not read “Princess of Mars”, they will not like Dejah Thoris’ attire.

(John Carter of Mars reference)


13 posted on 03/20/2012 12:53:58 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fremont_steve

A good follow-up to the original article appears below:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/03/20/south-carolina-teacher-suspended-for-enders-game-also-read-students-agatha-christie/

Looks like there was more to it than initially reported...imagine that.


14 posted on 03/20/2012 12:54:17 PM PDT by fremont_steve
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To: longtermmemmory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender%27s_Game


16 posted on 03/20/2012 12:55:26 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: longtermmemmory
what is this sci fi book about?

When you hear or see about the movie, you will think it is derivative of so many stories, when in fact, those stories are derivative of it. Its about young school children being taught the art of warfare, comraderie, discipline and command, through various forms of "play". In the end, one of those forms of play is actually the real thing. Great read.

17 posted on 03/20/2012 12:56:09 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: longtermmemmory

The discovery and training of a tactical child prodigy to overcome the destruction of humanity by an alien race. He succeeds in genocidal wiping them out and becomes the most hated man in the universe for doing it by the very people he saved.


18 posted on 03/20/2012 12:56:36 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: fremont_steve

I worked with some friends on a volunteer project a few years back. It was a summer project where we helped a local middle school get some minor paint and fix-up projects done.

In one project we were painting some classrooms and their adjoining hallway.

The walls of the hallway, at about the level of the tops of the classroom doors, were (in addition to the general painting) being decorated with some famous poems.

A few of the words of one poem were changed because they mentioned guns. I commented to the project leader that it was a wrong and a dumb thing to do. They did not seem to have any care or concern for intellectual honesty. I was disgusted.

Strike another victory for the Orwellian leaders of academia.


19 posted on 03/20/2012 12:57:04 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: longfellow

no


20 posted on 03/20/2012 12:58:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Paradox

IOW it is like a 1984 scenario of sorts.

unless the offended mother is not real and this is all a test.


21 posted on 03/20/2012 1:00:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: fremont_steve

Another of N reasons (where N requires scientific notation to adequately express magnitude) why public schools should go extinct.

The combined IQ of the vast majority of superintentents/principals/school boards would strain to reach room temp.


22 posted on 03/20/2012 1:02:13 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The left hates/is going to hate Ender's Game. It will be savaged by many critics simply because of its plot. And it was written by a conservative Mormon. (Gasp!)

Ender's Game does a remarkable job describing what it is like to move about in zero gravity. Can't wait for the movie.

23 posted on 03/20/2012 1:05:06 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Some people tell me I worry too much.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
"These aliens show an ant-like group behavior, and are very protective of their leader, much like Earth ants protecting their queen".

Obamabots?

24 posted on 03/20/2012 1:06:15 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: fremont_steve
I guess I have been out to lunch as I have never heard of this book, ever. To me though, the Dune series by Frank Herbert would be impossible to top. I've read the whole series. If any here has read both authors, how would you compare?
25 posted on 03/20/2012 1:07:19 PM PDT by fish hawk (NAACP = Native Americans Against Corrupt Politicians)
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To: Paradox

IOW it is like a 1984 scenario of sorts.

unless the offended mother is not real and this is all a test.


26 posted on 03/20/2012 1:09:51 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Where’s the queen?


27 posted on 03/20/2012 1:10:37 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: longfellow

Lol


28 posted on 03/20/2012 1:11:56 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: fremont_steve

Orson Scott Card the Mormon writer ???

Its probably because his books are heavily laced with New Age Mormonism...


29 posted on 03/20/2012 1:12:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The Queen appears in Speaker for the Dead.

BTW, after attempting to read Xenocide I have sworn off all Orson Scott Card books.

30 posted on 03/20/2012 1:12:59 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Some people tell me I worry too much.)
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To: fremont_steve

Too bad the child prodigy, Ender wasn’t a Homo.

Then this would an “award-winning educator”, celebrated for his edgy and innovative teaching style.


31 posted on 03/20/2012 1:12:59 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: driftdiver

Exposing children to freedom could be consider pornographic by the Left!


32 posted on 03/20/2012 1:13:25 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: fremont_steve

I finally read this book when I was in Iraq. It was really good. I don’t envy Gavin Hood’s job of directing the movie—it’s gonna be a tough one.


33 posted on 03/20/2012 1:16:05 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: fish hawk
I guess I have been out to lunch as I have never heard of this book, ever. To me though, the Dune series by Frank Herbert would be impossible to top. I've read the whole series. If any here has read both authors, how would you compare?

I've read both recently. Dune is slightly more sophisticated, but they both have what I consider positive and conservative themes. Most people who like Dune will also like Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow, although they are very different as Sci Fi. [Dune is better.]

34 posted on 03/20/2012 1:16:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: fish hawk

I’ve read both authors. OSC is much easier to read, but not
as detailed. I like them both very much.


35 posted on 03/20/2012 1:18:04 PM PDT by jusduat (on the mercy of the Lord alone.)
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To: driftdiver

Well Card did name one of his kids Michael Geoffrey for the pornagraphic writer Geoffrey Chaucer,

He named them all for writers he “admired”...

Personally I could hardly get through Chaucer when I was in college...


36 posted on 03/20/2012 1:23:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: fish hawk

I’ve been reading sci fi for 40 years and Ender’s Game is by
far the best story I’ve come across. Dune is a good story but gets lost is so much detail which is why the movie sucked so bad.


37 posted on 03/20/2012 1:26:40 PM PDT by Taylor42
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To: BenLurkin

Could you elucidate further? Right now, I can’t understand why you’d sy that.


38 posted on 03/20/2012 1:31:15 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Deliver us from Obama (and Obama Lite). GO NEWT!)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Have you read them?

Can you read them?

39 posted on 03/20/2012 1:33:37 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: Taylor42

I read a story about the making of Dune and the Director, Lean, I believe, left and had his name taken off the film credits as he didn’t like what they were cutting and adding to what he wanted to give us, and that was something very close to the book script. Most believe that that is why it sucked.


40 posted on 03/20/2012 1:34:26 PM PDT by fish hawk (NAACP = Native Americans Against Corrupt Politicians)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The Queen was captured and experimented on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AjEdc-VDcw
41 posted on 03/20/2012 1:44:36 PM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: driftdiver

i concur this book is not pornographic except to the left. they probably thing STARSHIPP TROOPERS is pornographics. what do they think 14 year olds see on the interent? and why is the teacher reading it it to the class.
using this same logic i think anything by that commie bastard howard zinn is pornographic.


42 posted on 03/20/2012 1:51:34 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: bravo whiskey

Forget pornographic. I can’t for the life of me figure out what the “profanity” is that they would object to. I guess there must have been some language in there, but I’ve read the book once, and listened to it on tape twice, and I don’t remember anything to be offended at.

In fact, I have either read or listened to the entire Ender’s series at least twice, and there is hardly anything at all sexual, and the violence is contained and entirely appropriate for the story. And I don’t remember any language issues, or thematic problems either.

Now, these are not religious books, nor do I find much religious allegory. I’d say they lean a bit toward humanist, although Catholicism plays a part in many of the books in the series (as it does in another good book by Card, “Empire” and the sequel “Hidden Empire”).

I wouldn’t look to these books for christian themes. The main character is agnostic at best. But I even found the bizarre “theology” of the latter books to be interesting. If you read SciFi to be put in an alternative reality, these books do that well.


43 posted on 03/20/2012 2:15:26 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: GSWarrior

Card is perhaps the most uneven author I’ve ever read.

Some of his stuff, such as Ender’s Game and Tales of Alvin Maker, is innovative and excellent.

Others, even some in the two series started by the books above, are almost unreadable.

His SF retelling of the story of the Book of Mormon, The Homecoming Saga, is atrocious.


44 posted on 03/20/2012 2:21:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: CharlesWayneCT; bravo whiskey
Forget pornographic. I can’t for the life of me figure out what the “profanity” is that they would object to. I guess there must have been some language in there, but I’ve read the book once, and listened to it on tape twice, and I don’t remember anything to be offended at.

In fact, I have either read or listened to the entire Ender’s series at least twice, and there is hardly anything at all sexual, and the violence is contained and entirely appropriate for the story. And I don’t remember any language issues, or thematic problems either.


I've read the Ender series many times. There is absolutely nothing remotely offensive in them (well, at least to those of traditional morality and support of the military). I've read most of Card's other books and they're unusually solid in promoting a view of the universe that is moral and, interestingly, Card's Mormon background doesn't intrude into these stories at all.
45 posted on 03/20/2012 2:23:11 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: GSWarrior; windcliff
And it was written by a conservative Mormon.

Well that eliminates Romney as the author.

46 posted on 03/20/2012 2:23:55 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Sherman Logan
Others, even some in the two series started by the books above, are almost unreadable.

Ender's Shadow is pretty good.
47 posted on 03/20/2012 2:26:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Sherman Logan

I enjoyed Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus.


48 posted on 03/20/2012 2:27:03 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Some people tell me I worry too much.)
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To: Wuli
A few of the words of one poem were changed because they mentioned guns. I commented to the project leader that it was a wrong and a dumb thing to do.

You had paint, a ladder, and yet you did nothing. That's why we're losing.

49 posted on 03/20/2012 2:27:21 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: aruanan

I had to stop reading Xenocide because I didn’t want it to spoil the Ender legacy for me.


50 posted on 03/20/2012 2:29:18 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Some people tell me I worry too much.)
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