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Scientists Cure Cancer, But No One Takes Notice
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Posted on 03/20/2012 6:26:50 PM PDT by CactusCarlos

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To: RegulatorCountry

Have no idea how valid this is but was told today that THC injected into a tumor kills it. How about a petition asking for the legalization of hemp and it’s uses.


51 posted on 03/20/2012 8:19:56 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Obama is Romney lite)
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To: hinckley buzzard
That was a different time and place. The world wasn't as populated and litigative as it is now. We're on the downward side of this current civilization. Perhaps millenia from now our predecessors will come up with the answers that eluded us.
52 posted on 03/20/2012 8:24:12 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Studies find an aspirin a day can keep cancer at bay

http://news.yahoo.com/studies-aspirin-day-keep-cancer-bay-000306036.html

And today we get this about aspirins. Interesting.


53 posted on 03/20/2012 8:24:31 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: W. W. SMITH

Cannabinoids have been shown to inhibit tumor growth in some clinical trials, particularly brain tumors, but injecting it into a tumor to “kill” it sounds like misinterpretation or urban legend.


54 posted on 03/20/2012 8:26:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Here’s another piece of the puzzle (sorry, couldn’t resist): New uses for existing things are patentable. If someone found a way to cure cancer using duct tape, they could patent that use.

In fact, I think that’s exactly what happened with that drug used to treat thickened toenails. It was an existing drug, but a pharma found a new use, and they’re making bank on it.

This article is 100% garbage.


55 posted on 03/20/2012 8:29:31 PM PDT by piytar (Rebellion is here! Free Republic is on the front line! NEVER SURRENDER!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

well, he has had success


56 posted on 03/20/2012 8:32:26 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: 68stanger

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/393139_389330081080200_100000096344740_1468917_110146987_n.jpg

This showed up on my other blog.


57 posted on 03/20/2012 8:35:52 PM PDT by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: Madam Theophilus

I asked a friend of mine who is an ICU nurse about it and she said she has known it to be used to fight cancer for certain types.


58 posted on 03/20/2012 8:39:04 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: RegulatorCountry

I suspect the “cure” for cancer will be genetic, it’ll be multi-variant, therefore semi-customized for the individual patient, and will involve either repairing individual genes or using genes from another species. There’s a lot of work going on along these lines, and some has reversed genetically inherited diseases. I don’t think “simple or easy” is a realistic possibility.

As far as the meme about drug company profits goes, even the most common substance has to be carefully administered and monitored, the disease has to be accurately diagnosed, and the patient has to be followed up for relapses. All of those activites generate revenue for the medical profession, so the profit of drug companies is not the sole market force involved. They’ll provide whatever substance is required, in much the same way as they’ve continued to provide Claritin since it went off prescription.


59 posted on 03/20/2012 8:39:47 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: ArmstedFragg

Treatment of cancer has advanced a great deal since my introduction to it via a loved one, and later on with a beloved dog. “Alternative” therapies are being researched and tested now, unlike then. There’s a place for both conventional medical science and herbal treatments, as well as dietary supplements.

I distrust genetic manipulation, maybe it’s a poor bias akin to the closed mindedness I encountered trying to help those I loved in any way possible back then, but I do. Some individuals inherit a propensity to develop certain cancers, true, but most of it is just cells gone wrong and not destroyed by the body’s natural defenses in time.

Live long enough, and you’ll develop cancer. It’s almost an inevitability.


60 posted on 03/20/2012 8:50:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: All

For anyone with an interest in the history of cancer research, I highly recommend Siddhartha Mukherjee’s “The Emperor of all Maladies”. It’s available in Kindle for about ten bucks, and in paperback for that or less. It takes you from early history to the current day, and details how far we’ve come and how far is left to go.


61 posted on 03/20/2012 8:51:34 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Figment

Agreed


62 posted on 03/20/2012 8:52:13 PM PDT by The Mayor ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat" — Ronald Reagan)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I agree that all angles should be pursued. As far as genetic manipulation goes, genes code for proteins, and proteins control cell function. In the circumstance where run away cellular production is caused by a deficiency in production of the protein that regulates the reproductive cycle due to a malfunctioning gene, replacing that gene with a working one has some real possibilities. They’re early in the process at the moment.

There’s currently a trial for an inherited form of blindness where they’ve made it work, and I recently met a scientist who’s successfully repaired and replaced a defective gene that produces a certain form of heart failure.

Genetic manipulation is tricky ground, though, so your distrust is reasonable, in early work a child was cured of a rare inherited muscular disease, only to die of leukemia created by a previously unknown function of the gene they repaired. When you’re fiddling with the cellular reproductive cycle great care is required.


63 posted on 03/20/2012 9:13:02 PM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: CactusCarlos
In human cells there is a natural cancer fighting organelle, the mitochondria, but it needs to be triggered in order to be effective.

The big pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know that mitochondria is the plural form of mitochondrion.

64 posted on 03/20/2012 9:52:07 PM PDT by TChad
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To: RegulatorCountry

They aren’t perfect cures, but the following items could be useful to some cancer patients:

- cesium chloride with potassium supplementation
- paw paw
- ellagic acid
- intravenous vitamin c


65 posted on 03/20/2012 10:37:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants; CactusCarlos
Of course the pharm companies are not interested, there is no money in it. But if the oncologists know about it, it will be used.

Thank you for injecting some sanity into this thread. There is not a world-wide conspiracy involving every single doctor, nurse, pharmacist and medical researcher on the planet to get filthy rich and kill people. I understand that there are actually about a dozen of them who got into the business to heal people. For reals!

66 posted on 03/20/2012 11:13:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: CactusCarlos

I skimmed through the comments and I don’t believe anyone posted the article from the University of Alberta DCA Group.

For a factual report on findings, here is the original source: http://www.dca.med.ualberta.ca/Home/Updates/2007-03-15_Update.cfm

- Article last modified in 2010


67 posted on 03/21/2012 7:31:53 AM PDT by VaeVictis (~Woe to the Conquered~)
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To: CactusCarlos

A few thoughts.

There is a sucker born every minute.

Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the general public

And cancer is “treated” not “cured”. When someone says “cured Cancer” they are trying to whip up an emotional reaction rather than giving an accurate analysis of treatment.

Even if I gave 1,000 people with various cancers my miracle drug and they ALL went into remission and none of them had any adverse events - and 10 years later they were all still in remission - I would STILL not claim to have “Cured” their cancer - only to have successfully treated it over a 10 year period.

But quacks selling snake oil to fools do NOT use such language.


68 posted on 03/21/2012 7:36:16 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Heart of Georgia

Knew a lady who used WD40 spray on her arthritic knees. Dunno; she died young.

I used DMSO from the feed store (horse liniment) on my injured achilles tendon on a backpacking trip.

It worked great until the tendon tore.

Turns out that DMSO DISSOLVES CARTILAGE AND CONNECTIVE TISSUE.

Bad idea it was.

However, when I discovered glucosamine-chondroitin (Nutrijoint from vrp.com), my tendon grew back within 3 months!


69 posted on 03/21/2012 7:58:11 AM PDT by darth
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To: fabian

Cancer is a GENETIC disease, one caused by mutations in the genes that regulate cellular reproduction - causing uncontrolled cell growth.

These genes that regulate cell growth, that when mutated are associated with cancer, are called oncogenes.

I know the truth may cause you to be in an out of control but suppressed irritable state - but there it is.


70 posted on 03/21/2012 8:07:39 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks for pointing that out - I was not aware it was posted here last May.


71 posted on 03/21/2012 8:16:57 AM PDT by CactusCarlos
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To: CactusCarlos

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2725054/posts


72 posted on 03/21/2012 8:23:26 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Gunslingr3
Lumber can't be patented, but people still make money providing it to those who want it.

Exactly. If nothing else, the same group of manufacturers who produce a generic form of Medicine X the second its patent expires would jump on this if it were legit.

73 posted on 03/21/2012 8:32:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Note to self: proofread, then post. It's better that way.)
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To: CactusCarlos

You never know these days. The corporates and their supporters lie. The anti-corporates and their supporters lie.

If there is really a cancer cure, it will be used and the lie will be exposed.


74 posted on 03/21/2012 8:52:17 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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75 posted on 03/21/2012 8:52:43 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: allmendream
Not irritated at all because people like you simply do not see the spiritual/rage cause of cancer and most all other diseases. God made his creation perfect, but it is when we do not understand and become very unforgiving that the cells go haywire, with the help of the darkness plotting that along. Cancer is NOT genetic..makes no sense that God would just allow bodies to get out of control for no reason. I don't expect you to understand that but it is true.
76 posted on 03/21/2012 11:28:47 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
So the basis of your incorrect assertions about what causes cancer is on your supposed understanding of what GOD would or would not allow?

Do you realize how delusional that is?

Somatic mutations are a fact - even if you think God would not allow it - it is obvious God does in fact allow somatic mutations. Grey hair in old people is physical evidence that the genes that would produce and place melanin inside the hair have been mutated in those cells producing gray hair.

That somatic mutations of those genes that regulate cell division can (and do) cause cancer is also a fact - irrespective of what you think God would allow or not allow.

Good and God fearing people without any deficit in spirituality can and do get and die of cancer.

Way to blame the victim. I guess they only died of cancer because they lacked sufficient faith in God and the supposedly ironclad knowledge of the mind of God that you possess.

77 posted on 03/21/2012 11:35:03 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Melas; television is just wrong
"cancers are fungi."

Uh, no. In no way

Melas, you are correct. Cancer is NOT fungi, and baking soda will NOT cure it.

Cancer is cockroaches, and you need to treat it with boric acid.

78 posted on 03/21/2012 11:36:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: allmendream
Way to blame God...He made us to live happy, not die of cancer. People like you just do not see how unforgivenesses cause disease, not God's own perfect creation. Look at the wild kingdom where the animals that were made by Him do not die of all of the horrible malodies that humans do.
79 posted on 03/21/2012 1:33:00 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
My dog recently died of tumors caused by brain cancer. I guess my Chocolate Lab was in a state of sin and unforgiveness and that caused his disease!/s

Are you really that dense?

Do you actually think animals don't get cancer?

They do.

Apparently you don't know the mind of God nearly as well as your delusions suggest.

80 posted on 03/21/2012 1:36:35 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: fabian
I guess this Tazmanian Devil wasn't right with God either! How could he be? He WAS a "Devil" after all!!!!/s
81 posted on 03/21/2012 1:44:37 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: fabian

I have no idea who feeds you all of this crap you spout, but you should stop listening to it, since you lack the critical thinking skills to properly analyze it. I won’t even get into this nonsense about cancer, as other FReepers have already jumped on it with glee, as well they should.


82 posted on 03/21/2012 2:12:19 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: TigersEye

I think at this point, the researchers need to have their research peer reviewed and hopefully someone will fund some research that will duplicate their outcome.


83 posted on 03/21/2012 4:24:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: 68stanger

“Think of copyping a picture, then copying that copy and repeating it a few times. Thing get blurry. In a not very different way, that’s what happens with cells.”

Cells do NOT do that. In fact the cells copy themselves EXACTLY, when working normally, every time.


84 posted on 03/21/2012 4:34:17 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Apoptosis prevents this by killing the cell once it knows its under attack. That’s what this therapy does. The cell commits suicide rather than allow it to be used to produce other bad RNA.

This may also be an extremely effective anti-viral therapy.

The idea here is that once the breach occurs, the mitochondria triggers cell death. Some virus’ mutate to prevent the cell’s ‘chemical alarm’ that activates the mitochondria from commiting apoptosis.

There is a similar therapy being tested (so far successfully in mice) against the cold, ebola, hemhorragic fever, and hantavirus. The current issue of Wired magazine has the story.


85 posted on 03/21/2012 4:35:48 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I'm all for that. I am also all for trying anything that won't cause more harm than good. Some regulation of the practice of medicine is a good thing but the government has gotten to the point that it wants to and will be making all medical decisions from the practice of it to research. I wouldn't take a vitamin tablet on the advice of a bureaucrat.

I just get tired of hearing people make the claim that cancer cures would be buried because there is more profit in treating cancer than curing it. I consider that kind of thinking to be like Medieval superstitions only crazier.

86 posted on 03/21/2012 4:58:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: CactusCarlos

It’s already in human clinical trials, but side effects including liver and nerve damage, may prevent it’s approval in the US.


87 posted on 03/21/2012 5:09:15 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: allmendream

It is not happening it the wild...happens with people owned animals sometimes, yes. we also know that pets tend to take on the persona of their owners. That Tasmanian devil is an exception. There may have been an environmental cause to his? what I wrote is true about animals and presenting an anomaly does not make it untrue.


88 posted on 03/21/2012 7:13:42 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
What you wrote is absolute ignorance.

Animals get cancer when they get old just as humans do.

It is not just limited to pets and Tasmanian devils.

Now pets are psychic and take on the persona of their owners? Oh so it is MY FAULT my dog got brain cancer!!!

You are really funny.

Delusional. But funny.

Wild animals don't usually get DIAGNOSED with cancer. Because they don't have concerned people to take them into a vet at the first sign of trouble. But they do get and die of cancer - or die because the cancer rendered them unable to fend for themselves.

Anti-technological nutcases also like to point out that people in undeveloped nations don't get (DIAGNOSED) cancer as often. Because when grandpa gets pancreatic cancer in a hut in Guatemala - chances are it never gets diagnosed AS cancer - but he still dies.

http://www.livescience.com/9680-cancer-kills-wild-animals.html

89 posted on 03/22/2012 6:05:58 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
No they do not get cancer just like humans do. If you read that article better you will see they mentioned Tasmanian devils with that specific type of contagious facial cancer. Cancer is not contagious for humans...so it very well could have been picked up and spread from a virus or such.
Also, all of the other animals mentioned in your link are sea animals whom roam about where there is much pollution possible, thus they can get disease from that.
Animals in the wild do not get sick like us from a spiritual deficiency called rage. You do not see hundreds or thousands of lions or antelopes or brown bears for that matter, dying of cancer. It just does not happen. Sorry, you are just incorrect and you do not know how to debate without getting low and calling me stupid. That is OK though, I am not annoyed at you.
90 posted on 03/22/2012 7:44:01 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian

They DO get cancer like humans do. That a particular form of cancer is spread by a virus (created by God) doesn’t obviate the FACT that...

a) they are wild animals
b) they get cancer

Thus the inescapable conclusion: Wild animals do get cancer.

So is it pollution that causes cancer, or a spiritual deficiency? Both? Split the difference?

Why does pollution cause cancer in your world?

In the real world pollution causes cancer because it increases the incidents of SOMATIC MUTATIONS.

Thus indicating, along with billions of other points of data, that Cancer is a GENETIC disease.

Be annoyed with yourself - and whoever taught you what you think you know about the mind of God and its applicability to making factual determinations about the natural world. It is well deserved.


91 posted on 03/22/2012 8:10:49 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream
yes, there are incidences of cancer in the wild but not anything like in humans who carry around all sorts of little petty resentments. You have no idea how dangerous it is to our health to overact to stress just as you are overeacting to my perception. No one told me these things although I have heard this from other sources. It is well known that stress can cause disease. Just look at the word for heaven sakes! Dis ease not at ease or at peace!
92 posted on 03/22/2012 9:20:15 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: fabian
No, EXACTLY like in humans, and primarily caused by the same thing - SOMATIC MUTATIONS.

No one taught you these things? Good to know that it is not a widespread delusion at least.

Stress CAN and DOES increase incidents of disease - but the disease itself is usually a microbial pathogen - or a somatic mutation causing unregulated cellular division (i.e. cancer).

Despite you delusions about what God does or does not do or want - wild animals DO get cancer - and it is not because their soul is not right with God - or because they live under a great deal of stress - but because over the span of their life they had somatic mutations in some cell lines that made those cells cancerous.

So how does pollution cause cancer in your model?

Does environmental pollutants increase stress? Or do they increase somatic mutations?

93 posted on 03/22/2012 9:26:40 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: fabian

If the entire world bought the program and learned how to meditate, there wouldn’t be any cancer? They’re selling multiple CD’s valued at hundreds of dollars at that website.

Do you get a kickback for peddling that?


94 posted on 03/22/2012 9:32:18 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

no I do not and they don’t make much money but it also can be heard right there for free!


95 posted on 03/22/2012 12:53:37 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: CactusCarlos

BTTT


96 posted on 05/09/2013 11:53:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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