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The Richer Sex Gender Roles Reversed
The Daily Beast ^ | March 20 2012 | Matthew Delucca

Posted on 03/21/2012 10:43:08 AM PDT by trailhkr1

40% of American women now earn more than their husbands. and the number is growing...fast.

How should a blue-collar husband and father react when his college-educated wife begins making twice his salary? Will ambitious women begin to want more of their mates than the men expect of themselves? In The Richer Sex, Liza Mundy draws on the latest research and the experiences of men and women across America to examine what happens when women become the breadwinners.

The big unpleasant question, Mundy says, is just how much will the tables turn? Will it be some men who wait at home to pamper a wife back from a long day in the salt mines? Some women will feel entitled to such treatment, much as some men once did, as they begin to contribute a larger share of the family’s income. “But just as women begin to feel that maybe it is okay to luxuriate a little bit when they get home from work, the question arises: How much luxuriating is fair?” Mundy writes. “Women will wonder whether they deserve perks in return for being breadwinners, and in their heart of hearts, they will answer: Yes. Yes I do.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: men; money; women
Mundy's book is going to be the main topic in Time magazine on sale March 26.

Mundy's book claims women will be the new head of household in 25 years. Men will increasingly be the stay at home dad's. Women will be much more pickier when picking mates and place much more emphasis on the males looks and how well they take care of themselves. In affect, men will become the new "Trophy Husbands" Increasingly men may be the ones offering beauty and sexual service in return for the economic security women offer," Mundy writes.

Mundy claims there will be even less commitment by women in the future, as they no longer need a provider and get this..men will be the ones withholding sex.(not sure if I agree with this). Mundy writes women are increasingly the ones asking for sex more often with as many different partners-test driving a car so to speak.

Mundy claims men will be looking to "marry up" in the future and the social stigma of being the "kept" husband will no longer be there.

Interesting

1 posted on 03/21/2012 10:43:12 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

maybe for the younger women. I fell and fractured my spine. I have been on unemployment and disability now for 2 years. No one will hire me. My husband had a nervous breakdown because of his parents both coming down with illnesses simultaneously, so we are both without incomes. However, because we are white, no one cares. I need to dye my hair and put in brown contacts and change my name to Sanchez or Garcia to get help.


2 posted on 03/21/2012 10:46:44 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: trailhkr1

I think that biological impulses will still be apparent. Most women have trouble with the idea of being with a man who earns less then they do. Many women are tolerant of a man who acts badly, if he earns a lot of money.

I can see a more polygamous society developing from this.


3 posted on 03/21/2012 10:47:34 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: trailhkr1
http://i.imgur.com/bkJVL.jpg


4 posted on 03/21/2012 10:51:27 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: Jonty30

If I’ve learned one lesson in 40 years, it’s that when men are earning more, it’s ‘our’ money. When women are earning more it’s ‘my’ money.


5 posted on 03/21/2012 10:52:15 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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To: trailhkr1

There may be such a trend as stated in the article. However, any such a trend is probably an artifact of legal policies not any inherent female abilities.


6 posted on 03/21/2012 10:52:33 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: trailhkr1

Women are generally more responsible than men.

Women worry about money more than men and tend to be more money motivated.

The modern American service economy doens’t have many non-automated physically demanding jobs that can’t be done by women.

Modern trend to recruit women into jobs that have physical components that are generally better done by men, such as firefighter or police officer.

Despite all this, women will still look to marry successful men while men look to marry beautiful women. The idea that ugly rich women will be in demand from young studs is laughable. Yet you will still see beautiful young ladies marrying ugly old guys.

You can’t change human nature. Sure, there will be some changes at the margins. There have always been gigolos. But by and large, men want a beautiful woman and that serves as motivation to get the income to attract a beautiful women. Women want a rich husband and that serves as motivation to be physically attractive to attract a rich guy.

That is not going to change. But the commie libs will try to change this as they are ALWAYS trying to buck human nature and turn normal life on its head.


7 posted on 03/21/2012 10:56:47 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: trailhkr1

IMHO, you only have to look to Hollywood to see the fruit. Hollywood is loaded with beautiful, pampered women who are breadwinners and earn huge amounts of money(actresses).

The marraiges don’t seem to last, and the children are pretty messed up, even though the parents have a strong work ethic.

I think what may be skewing the numbers are the blacks. It is a very sad fact that many black women are far more educated than the average black man, and they are unwilling to put up with useless men who don’t go to school and pull their share. Are a result, many black woman can’t find a mate.


8 posted on 03/21/2012 10:59:54 AM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: trailhkr1
This is unadulterated bs and the wishful thinking of resentful feminists. The goal should be two people who love each other and who have mutual respect who work together to provide their children with the best nurturing and values possible. Most men I know don't have any desire to be ‘above’ their wives. If there are women out there who have a desire to be ‘above’ their husbands - that's their business - but they won't have a true marriage and they'll remain as miserable as I suspect many already are. When you run your life on the basis of your ambitions and your resentments you make yourself into a very small pathetic human being - in short order.
9 posted on 03/21/2012 10:59:54 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: trailhkr1

Lot more likely men will simply Go Galt and live off video games and online porn than become a “kept man” and deal with a even more demanding *itch at home.


10 posted on 03/21/2012 11:01:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: trailhkr1

I’m ready to be “kept”... and, I promise NEVER to use sex as a weapon to get what I want. :-)

I will be, “Ever-Ready”.

That said..... these trends are undeniable. Just look and see WHO is going to college. Hint: It’ AIN’T men.


11 posted on 03/21/2012 11:02:06 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: Jonty30
Most women have trouble with the idea of being with a man who earns less then they do

I know numerous guys my age who make less than their wives and gf's. Myself included. Women my age seem to not care as long as the male is happy and successful in his job and is not a deadbeat or lazy.

Women are "taking charge" of nearly aspect of the relationship.I'm a male in my mid 20's and all of my friends including myself have been asked out by women, they initiated the contact. I see it every day.

I follow the wedding announcements in the paper and have noticed the trend of the wife having the higher education and better paying job.

12 posted on 03/21/2012 11:02:36 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

In most marriages I am around, it’s been a see-saw as to who is the “breadwinner.”

Husband gets laid off, spends 3 years in temp/contract work before getting hired while wife keeps decent job. In this case the wife will be returning from maternity leave at the 6 month point and will try and go part time for a few years or stay at home completely and free lance to keep skills up.

Husband gets injured and is on disability for six months, has to take less physically demanding work for another six months. In the mean time, wife gets promoted. Once the husband is back full time in construction the salaries even out after a few years.

I know dozens of situations like this. They’ve been going on for years and I think this will be more common than this woman’s “trophy husband.”


13 posted on 03/21/2012 11:08:06 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: trailhkr1
The big unpleasant question, Mundy says, is just how much will the tables turn? Will it be some men who wait at home to pamper a wife back from a long day in the salt mines? Some women will feel entitled to such treatment, much as some men once did, as they begin to contribute a larger share of the family’s income.

Huh?! When was this? The 1800's? When I got home from "the salt mines", my wife, far from pampering me while I luxuriated, would tell me how worn out she was from taking care of the kids and cleaning the house She would then go take a long bath while I made dinner. Yeah, I'll be more than happy to turn the table, but she ain't going to like it...

14 posted on 03/21/2012 11:08:06 AM PDT by apillar
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
If there are women out there who have a desire to be ‘above’ their husbands - that's their business -

I don't think they have a desire to be above their husband, the nature of the changing job market and with more women obtaining degrees than men it is just happening.

The majority of people unemployed over the last 3 years tends to be men. Women have been less hit.

15 posted on 03/21/2012 11:08:11 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1

Men will be obsolete the way it is going.


16 posted on 03/21/2012 11:11:43 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: trailhkr1
My neighbor has a son who is a young doctor at a famous hospital back east. He is well regarded, well paid and lives in a beautiful home.
His wife is a successful lawyer with very large M&A firm and earns quite a bit more than the husband.
They have a baby and a large dog which are taken care by a nanny during the day. In the evening the wife comes home takes off her shoes sits on the couch and relaxes while the husband is responsible for tending to the baby, walking the dog, and whatever household chores need attention.

The parents of the young doctor are very well to do and are furious and refuse to visit their grandchild because of the domineering wife.

17 posted on 03/21/2012 11:14:05 AM PDT by oldbrowser (They are Marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: trailhkr1

LOL, women are women, men are men. God wrote that blue print, commie pigs have been trying to re-arrange that for years.

Overheard at a party:

Smoothie in his dockers and loafers talking to swell looking woman in biker clothes. He askes her why, when she is hot looking and educated and makes lots more money than her ol man, just why does she hang with that Neanderthal and not someone more refined, like himself?

She looks him dead in the eye and says, “because you are NOT a Neanderthal.”

True story. Nuff said.


18 posted on 03/21/2012 11:28:40 AM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope you don't like it.)
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To: trailhkr1

When are women going to break down the discrimination barriers and take on garbage collection, landscaping, and roofing jobs?


19 posted on 03/21/2012 11:31:49 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: trailhkr1

When are women going to break down the discrimination barriers and take on garbage collection, landscaping, and roofing jobs?


20 posted on 03/21/2012 11:32:11 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: trailhkr1

When are women going to break down the discrimination barriers and take on garbage collection, landscaping, and roofing jobs?


21 posted on 03/21/2012 11:32:15 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: trailhkr1

When are women going to break down the discrimination barriers and take on garbage collection, landscaping, and roofing jobs?


22 posted on 03/21/2012 11:32:31 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: oldbrowser
His wife is a successful lawyer with very large M&A firm and earns quite a bit more than the husband.

One definition of "undivorceable."

23 posted on 03/21/2012 11:33:39 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

Funny story.

I’m not sure money matters as much as the author of this piece thinks it does. I think many women would prefer a lower-earning man that would stand up for them and (sometimes, deep down) stand up to them; be able to shoot a gun, fix a toilet, etc. etc.


24 posted on 03/21/2012 11:35:05 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
When are women going to break down the discrimination barriers and take on garbage collection, landscaping, and roofing jobs?

They have, of course. And you wouldn't want to date most of these women... but that's just fine, because most of them aren't interested in you (though they might be interested in your date).

25 posted on 03/21/2012 11:36:54 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: trailhkr1
Mundy's book is going to be the main topic in Time magazine on sale March 26. Mundy writes. “Women will wonder whether they deserve perks in return for being breadwinners, and in their heart of hearts, they will answer: Yes. Yes I do.”

Hillary's running.

26 posted on 03/21/2012 11:37:31 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: trailhkr1

My wife an I try to live by the biblical direction for husbands and wives. It’s been challenging for both of us, but I believe ultimately rewarding.


27 posted on 03/21/2012 11:40:12 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: SomeCallMeTim
That said..... these trends are undeniable. Just look and see WHO is going to college. Hint: It’ AIN’T men.

My accounting classes were 75% women 25% men, sometimes more, sometimes less.

I currently work with 12-15 women age 22- early 30's on a regular basis and there are 3 men. The women are very attractive for the most part.

Life is good (but I do have a gf).

28 posted on 03/21/2012 11:43:05 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1
The job market issue is a very dynamic one. I have way more years of post-graduate education than I care to think about (M.D. plus probably too much), and coming from that perspective I honestly think the idea that a degree is a ticket to a better paying job is changing. If you have a degree that codifies as specific skill set, then it will likely pay off. A university degree in and of itself, however, is not likely to have the same cache in the future as it has had. I know Ph.D.s who make significantly less than construction workers and truck drivers, after many years of education and postdoctoral work.

I've heard so many predictions over the past 15 years, including the one stating that Japan was going to become the world's superpower, so I take these kinds of things with a grain of salt. I don't think of gender when I think of people's qualifications or skills. Doesn't matter to me. Don't know why anyone would be interested unless they had a particular motivating resentment or agenda. Just my take.

29 posted on 03/21/2012 11:44:51 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: trailhkr1
Because females are more easy to manipulate* and far less likely to physically resist or fight a dictatorial regime, it becomes necessary for the government to neutralize men by empowering women. "GIRL POWER" is now an integral part of our schools where boys are essentially ignored.

It is much easier for the eventual world government to manage a ranch full of bunnies than a ranch full of wolves. Stripping society of 'male heads of households' is the unspoken and necessary goal of Agenda 21. To emasculate men, dis-empower them and suppress their ability to resist.

*As evidenced by the current Democrat appeal to women, using the 'War on Women', Fluke tactic to gather FEMALE voters for 0bama.

30 posted on 03/21/2012 11:49:04 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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Not to be ignored is the fact that many men pay 65% of their income in child support to ex-wives who've remarried and that that tax free income to their households is not even computed.
31 posted on 03/21/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: trailhkr1

Life may be good for you but once you set that selfishness aside you’ll see a bigger picture that requires that you be extinct. Read my post #30. Your post exemplifies my post. Thank you.


32 posted on 03/21/2012 11:52:30 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“You can’t change human nature...”

the whole, entire purpose of liberal existence, and what passes for “liberal thought” is to disprove that particular natural law!!


33 posted on 03/21/2012 11:52:48 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: trailhkr1
"The big unpleasant question, Mundy says, is just how much will the tables turn?"

See politics, the debt regime and economic future.


34 posted on 03/21/2012 11:54:26 AM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: jacknhoo

The entire notion of ‘child support’ is criminal when the female ‘out earns’ the male as this article discusses. A female can only have so many fancy new shoes, right?


35 posted on 03/21/2012 11:57:34 AM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: trailhkr1

I am work for an A/E firm. Not a lot of women.


36 posted on 03/21/2012 11:59:40 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: trailhkr1

Well, between affirmative sexism and the legions of “women’s” groups out there, what do you expect?

Feminists, like the race-baiting poverty pimps in the black community, will never stop demanding reparations. How about this: forgive and forget. If everybody agreed to adopt a level playing field, I’d let bygones be bygones for all the times I may have been passed over for being the “wrong” race or sex.


37 posted on 03/21/2012 12:21:57 PM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: trailhkr1

This won’t be a permanent trend. The recent shift has more likely been caused by women in lower paying medical / teaching / childcare / social services jobs remaining employed while the men in the construction and trade industries are unemployed. If the economy picks up, those men will go back to being the higher earner.


38 posted on 03/21/2012 12:30:13 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: jjm2111
My wife an I try to live by the biblical direction for husbands and wives

Are you referring to men being the head of the household? Just curious to what you meant.

39 posted on 03/21/2012 12:55:57 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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I currently work with 12-15 women age 22- early 30's on a regular basis and there are 3 men. The women are very attractive for the most part.

Life is good (but I do have a gf).

Oh my... Good luck with that!

I do a guest lecture once a year to Univ of Kentucky Senior Chemical Engineers.... over the years, there have been more and more females. This year, they were easily more than 50%.. in a ENGINEERING class!

40 posted on 03/21/2012 3:24:16 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: trailhkr1

Yes, and the requirement for men to love their wives “as Christ loves the church”, willing to die for them, literally, if need be, but also to die every day to (from?) my own selfishness and self-centered desires, putting my wife and family first as Christ put us (the Church) first.

Hope this helps.


41 posted on 03/23/2012 10:34:48 AM PDT by jjm2111
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