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Looking for another rifle
Vanity | 03/22/2012 | Peter from Rutland

Posted on 03/22/2012 8:55:06 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland

I'm looking for another rifle. I want this one for if the fecal matter hits the oscillating unit, you know basic target shooting at the club, *cough*. Should be high caliber but not ridiculous. I don't want to spend ridiculous dollars for something that looks great but is inferior. It must be semi-auto, not one shot. I can't think of a better place to ask for opinions. Makers, calibers and model suggestions welcome.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Outdoors
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1 posted on 03/22/2012 8:55:09 PM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: Peter from Rutland
Choice 1: Armalite AR-10 in .308 Win/7.62 NATO.

Choice 2: Springfield Armory M1A in .308 Win/7.62 NATO.

(end of thread)

2 posted on 03/22/2012 8:58:35 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Springfield M1A


3 posted on 03/22/2012 9:00:27 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: Peter from Rutland

If you can afford those, they are excellent options. I am kinda in the same boat. I already have a Colt AR-15 and a M1 Garand. I’m thinking about saving now for either the M1A Springfield or an AK-47. Leaning AK, but my combat veteran brother, who packed an M-14 in Vietnam is pushing the M1A.


4 posted on 03/22/2012 9:01:30 PM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: Peter from Rutland

What rifles do you currently have?


5 posted on 03/22/2012 9:01:38 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Peter from Rutland

Can’t go wrong with an SKS or AK rifle. Durable, easily cleanable, reliable, lots of ammo and parts available. Good round for close to medium range encounters, as you aren’t going to be a sniper.


6 posted on 03/22/2012 9:03:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Crapgame
By way of disclosure, I can't afford either of those guns and wish that I owned a copy of each. The closest thing I've got to an EBR (Evil Black Rifle) is a Winchester 94 lever-action .30-30.

Hey, it's better than throwing rocks.

7 posted on 03/22/2012 9:04:25 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Peter from Rutland
Check out one of the FN FAL variants. I have a L1 A1 that I
built from parts that I love. It is accurate and reliable.
It is a bit heavy.
8 posted on 03/22/2012 9:07:57 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

While reading this thread, the words of former U.S. Senator from Texas Phil Gramm crossed my mind.

I think it was at an NRA convention when he said,
“I have more guns than I need but not as many as I want.”


9 posted on 03/22/2012 9:09:28 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I'm NOT smitten' with Mittens)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Look up K Var, they are importing VEPR and Saiga rifles chambered in Russian 7.62mm; NATO 7.62mm and 5.56mm. Based on AK 47 system, very rugged and reliable. Prices are low cost for its durable construction.


10 posted on 03/22/2012 9:09:47 PM PDT by Fee
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To: Peter from Rutland

Remington makes a 300 win mag that can be found most places for $350 to $400.


11 posted on 03/22/2012 9:11:43 PM PDT by barmag25
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To: Peter from Rutland

Don’t forget to “lose” it in a “boating accident.”


12 posted on 03/22/2012 9:11:54 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

Yes as others have said, get a standard caliber. I have had several Colt AR-15 H-Bars and I can’t think of much better rifle period. They have a 1-7 twist so will handle the heavy bullets in 5.56. They will also shoot the lighter bullets OK.

If I am in a situation where I need a semi-auto, and it could happen, I am in a bad way, probably not going to make it out.

Maybe not for you but I personally would get a bolt action in .308 or 30-06. Remington is hard to beat but there are plenty of others. I would insist on way better than average accuracy. If the gun will not shoot 1 moa or better, I would see if it could be improved. If not trade it and start all over.

There are also plenty of good scopes. For the money the Nikons are unbeatable. You will never go wrong with a Leupold.

Also everyone should have a Ruger 10-22. Not that it is any better than others but it is reliable and there are plenty of high capacity mags for it.


13 posted on 03/22/2012 9:12:14 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Peter from Rutland

The laws for your state are rather complicated. You would be better off asking a local dealer what you can buy. Either that or move to another state.


14 posted on 03/22/2012 9:12:14 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Peter from Rutland

AR-10 but it is expensive to shoot even though it’s superior.

AR-15 if you’re on a budget.


15 posted on 03/22/2012 9:12:47 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Peter from Rutland
If you have any tool skills, you can build an AR 15 in just about any reasonable caliber you desire. For around $700 you can order parts and build a very good working AR in 5.56 NAto. For another $150 you can build a 7.62 x 39 on the AR platform. The great thing about ARs is the ease of switching calibers by switching uppers and mags. And some calibers can use the sandard AR 5.56 mags bu at reduced ammo count (a thirty rd 5.56 will hold about eight 7.62 x 39 and feed reliably).

If you decide to build your won, think along lines of a 'pistol' upper which goes on a carbine lower. The 11.5 inch upper receivers work just fine with a pistol buffer, and if you decide to go further, you can turn it into an SBR for a $200 federal tax stamp app. All you'll need to do is register a lower receiver like you would buying an entire gun, then build on it what you want so long as you abide by the laws of SBR and pistol format for ARs.

And if you're looking for something that will shoot like a bullet hose without delicate maintenance, the AK and SKS flavors are inexpensive and hit hard and accurately inside 150 yards. They are heavy, however. I reccommend the AR platform and I build 11.5 piston kit pistols in 5.56. If the SHTF scenario arrives, the pistol weapons can be transformed into SBRs very easily with a stock and buffertube assemly.

16 posted on 03/22/2012 9:13:46 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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Can’t go wrong with virtually any AR type rifle, as long as it’s from one of the good manufacturers, or you could just build your own. Can’t go wrong with an AK47 either. FN-FALs are also good. I have some AR type rifles, but my semi-auto heavy hitter is a PTR-91(HK91 clone 7.62NATO/.308 made new in the US). Would just LOVE to get me a Barret .50!


17 posted on 03/22/2012 9:15:53 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Your next rifle should be an unrifled .50 caliber barrel.

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18 posted on 03/22/2012 9:16:05 PM PDT by Kevmo (If you can define a man by the depravity of his enemies, Rick Santorum must be a noble soul indeed.)
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To: Oberon
Any new (and most used) 7.62 x 51 battle rifles are going to set you back a grand or more. As others here have suggested, you can still find good values in the AK variants, with plentiful ammo, and an ever increasing volume of aftermarket/custom accessories. That gets you a 7.62 x 39, which ballistically is not really all that different from your .30-30.

If you're willing to go down to 5.56 and have the time and willingness to shop around, you can purchase the receiver, upper and components and build a custom rifle from the ground up. If you want something out of the box, take a look at S&W's M&P-15. The base model is pretty decent value with an MSRP of $739.

19 posted on 03/22/2012 9:16:36 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: CrazyIvan
All the rifles mentioned are excellent. However before we can make a recommendation he must define range and accuracy that is needed. An SKS with a thirty round clip is deadly but its accuracy at longer ranges is lacking. At a 100 meters it will ruin you whole day.

A Remington 700 chambered for .270 or 30:06 will reach to 300 yards if you have a decent scope on it. 100 yards every time, 200 yards most of the time, 300 yards if you are good, have match ammo, and can read the wind correctly. After 300 yards it gets very damn iffy.

20 posted on 03/22/2012 9:17:35 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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