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Feel like this is too impotyany yo ley pass. Hell is coming.
Govt Grabbing Water Again: Sues New Mexico for Water Rights


There is no better way to control “The People” than to control their water.

This is the work of Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar and Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack. In a letter to them from the Western Governors’ Association:

“…The ramifications of such legal position extend to the very heart of the Western states exclusive ownership and/or management and control of the groundwater resources within their respective boundaries.”

Jay Stein, a lawyer representing the city of Las Cruces, who has filed as an intervener in the case, said the outcome of the hearing could potentially affect the city’s water supply.

“In the pending water rights adjudication in state district court, here in Las Cruces, the court has turned to the United States’ claims. Foremost among these is the issue of the United States’ claims to “groundwater’ or to “project water in the ground,’ as they have termed it.

These claims are not supported by any actual beneficial use of groundwater. Nor are they supported by state law which governs proceedings in the adjudication.

“These water claims are unqualified but potentially could amount to hundreds of thousands of acre-feet per year.”

fedgov intends to take over the entire western water supply. Here in PA, I have already had several runins with the epa. All the signs I see point to an all out conflagration in this country. It’s coming and we can’t even be certain who the enemy is. Some are obvious. But some might reside right in our own families. There isn’t going to be any happy ending here. Not for a long, long time.

139 posted on 08/02/2012 11:41:38 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

Feel like this is too impotyany yo ley pass
Feel like this is too important to let pass.

WOW! It’s mighty late but this is ridiculous. LOL


140 posted on 08/02/2012 11:53:37 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine; rawhide; maggiesnotebook; I_Publius; yoe; SandRat

Thanks for the alert, MestaMachine! While I know that there could certainly be the replay of the Late Unpleasantness Between the States of the 1860s, it is my fervent prayer that the one of the 2010’s can be mitigated by the Grace of God!

MestaMachine and several other of our participants have urged me to alert the ping list to the very grave concerns we have before us regarding water and water rights.

I strongly encourage participants of these different states and even states surrounding them to please consider posting a link to this post on the various state bulletins of our forum.

Please note my new tagline. WE CAN DO THIS!

So here is a summary list of some recent relevant recent information regarding water and water rights:

1)See the above post 139 on this thread(which this post is a reply to)from MestaMachine

2)Post 128 above from DLfromthedesert - ARIZONA


Oregon Man Sentenced to 30 Days in Jail — for Collecting Rainwater on His Property ^ | 7-26-12 | Kendra Alleyne

– A rural Oregon man was sentenced Wednesday to 30 days in jail and over $1,500 in fines because he had three reservoirs on his property to collect and use rainwater.


Team Obama Seizing Western Water Supplies ^ | August 01, 2012 | Steve Ramirez

Clearly, it was jolting news the New Mexico Legislature’s Water and Natural Resources Committee wasn’t prepared for. During Monday’s committee meeting, in the Barbara Hubbard Room at the Pan American Center Annex, lawyers representing the New Mexico Office of the State Engineer, Elephant Butte Irrigation District, and the city of Las Cruces, told the committee that a state Water Court hearing will be at 9 a.m. Wednesday, at the Third Judicial Court Complex, 201 E. Picacho Ave., and the future management of state’s water supply could hang in the balance of the hearing’s outcome.

Govt Grabbing Water Again: Sues New Mexico for Water Rights
Maggie’s Notebook ^ | 8-1-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

The U.S. Government is suing New Mexico for perceived damages in a groundwater case, and the prize is control of the state’s water. In May 2011 we learned that the EPA was beginning to change the way America’s waters are controlled, and that control was to be extended to your ponds and puddles.


United Nations Agenda 21 - Land and property grab
Democrats Against UN Agenda 21 ^ | 7/31/2012 | Rosa Koire

Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:26:56 PM by I_Publius

“UN Agenda 21/Sustainable Development is implemented worldwide to inventory and control all land, all water, all minerals, all plants, all animals, all construction, all means of production, all information, and all human beings in the world....” snip

7)HOOVER DAM - while the LOST Treaty was (fortunately) quashed, nevertheless, the intent of those at the levers of power remains.

Obama To Give UN Control Of Our Water!
Western Center For Journalism ^ | July 12, 2012 | Suzanne Eovaldi

Is Obama’s federal government getting ready to put a huge red X mark on the Hoover Dam, which supplies most of the American West with its life-sustaining water? Having this scenario play out is quite plausible as Barack Obama’s Executive Order # 13547 in support of the global Law of the Sea Treaty (L.O.S.T.) seeks to take control of our water in any form of precipitation, from sky to ocean! Total water control will give the American president and his global cohorts total control of all U.S. citizens if this initiative is not stopped by still-free citizens...snip


Tombstone readies picks and shovels
Sierra Vista Herald/Review ^ | DANA COLE

posted June 8, 2012

TOMBSTONE — The City of Tombstone is embroiled in another dynamic showdown.

The “Town too Tough to Die” is now squaring off against the U.S. Forest Service in what could be the fight of its life, a battle over water rights.

On Friday and Saturday, a group called the Shovel Brigade will gather in Tombstone and head to the Huachuca Mountains to make repairs to the city’s waterline, which was damaged by mudslides and boulders after last summer’s Monument Fire flooding. While the 26-mile waterline — fed by springs in the Huachuca Mountains — has been Tombstone’s main water source for 130 years, the U.S. Forest Service is refusing to allow mechanized equipment into areas to make the repairs. Citing the Wilderness Act, the forest service is concerned about environmental damage that heavy equipment could cause to wilderness areas while excavation work and rebuilding are underway....snip

141 posted on 08/03/2012 8:40:20 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. Edmon Burke)
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To: MestaMachine

Bookmarked for near future consumption. Thanks much for keeping me informed.

146 posted on 08/03/2012 6:08:39 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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