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Big Ben may be renamed to honor queen
upi ^ | March. 24, 2012

Posted on 03/24/2012 4:39:04 AM PDT by JoeProBono

LONDON, -- A group of British legislators want to rename one of London's most famous landmarks, Big Ben, to honor Queen Elizabeth II.

In an early day motion, 23 members of Parliament said renaming the east tower of the Houses of Parliament the Elizabeth Tower would be an appropriate gesture in her Diamond Jubilee Year, The Guardian reported. They pointed out that the west tower was named after Queen Victoria in 1860 and paid tribute to the reigning queen's "energy, wisdom and grace."

Most of the group are Conservatives, although Jack Straw, a Labor foreign secretary, endorsed the proposal.

While Big Ben technically refers only to the bell that rings out the famous chimes, the name is also used for the clock and the tower.

Graham Smith of Republic, a group that wants to abolish the monarchy, called the plan "crass and profoundly inappropriate."

"That parliament is there for everybody and the idea that you're going to turn a major feature of our parliament into a tribute to an unelected, unaccountable head of state completely stands against absolutely everything that democracy's about," Smith said. "It's absolutely obscene."

Elizabeth has reigned longer than any other British sovereign except Victoria, her great-great-grandmother. But she has also reigned with less power than any other British monarch as a strictly symbolic figure.


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KEYWORDS: bigben; qe2; queenelizabeth2

1 posted on 03/24/2012 4:39:07 AM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

I think that they should rename it for Richard Branson.


2 posted on 03/24/2012 4:43:33 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: JoeProBono

Yes, Big Freddie (Mercury) seems to fit its shape.


3 posted on 03/24/2012 4:47:47 AM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart. . . . 2012 for change, this time for the people)
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To: JoeProBono

Big Liz?


4 posted on 03/24/2012 4:50:38 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: JoeProBono
LONDON, -- A group of British legislators want to rename one of London's most famous landmarks, Big Ben, to honor Queen Elizabeth II.

I really despise people sucking up to living royalty/politicians (pretty much the same) while they are still living. There is the all prevalent brown nosing aspect of this, plus the fact that all people are fallible, and often are tarnished resulting in a bad name being attached to a everyday feature.

I'm sure the queen is a fine old gal, but this is really stupid.

5 posted on 03/24/2012 4:51:49 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (A free counttry and a lying media are incompatible.)
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To: JoeProBono

This article got me thinking that the English were certainly better off when their monarchy had more power. Once the crown became merely a figure head, the British became a pale version of their former selves. I am sure I am oversimplifying their history but having had a monarchy for centuries had to do something to the English character. I would think that that character is one which responds to a monarchy; this is proven by the continuance of one even in symbolic form. I feel this way as well about all of those countries that gained their independence after World War 2 and to this day are impoverished and war torn. They certainly were in a better state when Britain was an Empire. Democracy and Republican values are not for every one. America was built by people who embodied those values which is why America works as a democratic society. My ancestors were the kind of people who were willing to brave a long ocean voyage and come to a new world, knowing no one in order to start a new life. That story is retold millions of times in the history of countless American families. But it was because those immigrants had a certain sense of adventure and independence that they were set apart from others in their former countries. I know it is too late for England to reclaim its former grandeur but they might want to ponder what brought them to that greatness in a world they once ruled.


6 posted on 03/24/2012 4:56:22 AM PDT by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Big Beth!!!!


7 posted on 03/24/2012 5:00:27 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Newtrition - soul food for a starving America.)
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To: JoeProBono

They are just being silly.


8 posted on 03/24/2012 5:01:33 AM PDT by fini
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To: JoeProBono

Big Bess?


9 posted on 03/24/2012 5:06:05 AM PDT by Méabh
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To: JoeProBono

The QB for the Steelers will be Elizabeth Roethlisberger!!!


10 posted on 03/24/2012 5:09:44 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: JoeProBono

Some things should stay the same. Tradition should mean something. Leave it as Big Ben, and name something else for the Queen


11 posted on 03/24/2012 5:18:58 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: JoeProBono

Big Queen??


12 posted on 03/24/2012 5:20:10 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: JoeProBono

Big Betty!

Long live the Clocktower!


13 posted on 03/24/2012 5:20:40 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: sueuprising

I’ve often thought of that myself. I think what they did was to keep their “serf” mentality when power transferred from the monarchy to the PM and Parliament. The lower classes were used to being “kept” by the state. The independence-spirited Englishmen went to America.


14 posted on 03/24/2012 5:24:21 AM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: JoeProBono

Big Liz?


15 posted on 03/24/2012 5:24:59 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Limbaugh: Tim Tebow miracle: "He had atheists praying to God that he would lose.")
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To: JoeProBono

Big Bull Crap — King and Queen are just more dictators.


16 posted on 03/24/2012 5:32:24 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: bmwcyle

bmwcyle
Since Oct 15, 1998

Big Bull Crap

ARE YOU SERIES?


17 posted on 03/24/2012 5:35:52 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Yes, I believe in a Republic not a blood line of Bull Crap rulers.


18 posted on 03/24/2012 5:38:01 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: bmwcyle

bmwcyle
Since Oct 15, 1998

THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE .....so to speak


19 posted on 03/24/2012 5:47:45 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono
Elizabeth has reigned longer than any other British sovereign except Victoria, her great-great-grandmother.

Besides being a tourist attraction, what has she done?

20 posted on 03/24/2012 5:51:35 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: FatherofFive

Dopey idea, She should nix it.


21 posted on 03/24/2012 6:20:35 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: FatherofFive

Provided work for lots of paparazzi.


22 posted on 03/24/2012 6:52:39 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Venturer

Tradition should mean something. Leave it as Big Ben, and name something else for the Queen

I agree. There has to be many other items that can be named after her. I have no problem with maybe new buildings being named in her honor as I think she deserves it, but not something like “Big Ben”.


23 posted on 03/24/2012 6:59:13 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: JoeProBono
The rest of the Steelers are not amused.
24 posted on 03/24/2012 7:03:04 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Sorry,no tag line today.)
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To: FatherofFive
The Queen is the titular (no snickering) head of state and serves as a symbol of the nation. Consider, Charles, Di, and some of the other royals. Consider Bill and Hillary, Jiminy Carter, Joe Biden and all of the Obamas.

What she has done is conduct herself with dignity, class, discretion and some charm. She acts in a manner befitting her office, that brings credit to her nation. What more could she do? (Okay, besides having Boris Johnson beheaded and Robert Fisk clapped in irons in the Tower of London.)

25 posted on 03/24/2012 7:12:46 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("Jihad" is Arabic for "Helter-Skelter", "bin Laden" is Arabic for "Manson".)
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To: JoeProBono

Mick Jagger - Big Mick!

This idea is so stupid.


26 posted on 03/24/2012 7:14:15 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: JoeProBono
That's a good idea. I think "Big Betty" has quite a ring to it!
27 posted on 03/24/2012 7:22:46 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: exit82
BIG BETTY!
28 posted on 03/24/2012 7:23:55 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: FrdmLvr

“I’ve often thought of that myself.”
I am glad I am not the only one! You put it succinctly when you said the “serf” mentality. I agree. You just don’t breed that out in a century.


29 posted on 03/24/2012 7:39:57 AM PDT by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: JoeProBono

The correct name of the tower (as opposed to the bell) is St.Stephen’s Tower.


30 posted on 03/24/2012 7:48:42 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: JoeProBono
What do you think Ben's feelings about this are?


31 posted on 03/24/2012 7:50:49 AM PDT by chopperman
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To: napscoordinator

It would bel ike renaming the Statue of Liberty ,the Statue of Taxation.


32 posted on 03/24/2012 8:09:04 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Romulus


33 posted on 03/24/2012 9:14:22 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Why can’t people just leave well enough alone?

Nobody will remember to call it “Big Liz” it will always be “Big Ben”


34 posted on 03/24/2012 11:02:41 AM PDT by hattend (Jesus wants me to make churches pay for abortions. - Barack Obama)
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To: hattend

I think “Big Betty” is really memorable, but that’s just one man’s opinion.


35 posted on 03/24/2012 1:15:14 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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