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Private jets, 13 mansions and a $100K mobile home just for the dogs: Televangelists [snip]
DailyMail ^ | 23 March 2012 | Nina Golgowski

Posted on 03/24/2012 12:04:34 PM PDT by Daffynition

wo former employees of the world's largest Christian television channel Trinity Broadcasting Network are accusing the non-profit of spending $50 million of its funding on extravagant personal expenses.

Among purchases, the network founded by Televangelists Paul and Jan Crouch, is accused of misappropriating its 'charitable assets' toward a $50 million jet, 13 mansions and a $100,000-mobile home for Mrs Crouch's dogs.

Their granddaughter, Brittany Koper, 26, recently filed her allegations in court after a brief appointment as the network's chief finance director in July.

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Edited title: **Private jets, 13 mansions and a $100,000 mobile home just for the dogs: Televangelists 'defrauded tens of million of dollars from Christian network'**


1 posted on 03/24/2012 12:04:40 PM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

I saw that picture and thought it was the second coming of Tammy Fae Baker........uuugh...red


2 posted on 03/24/2012 12:07:42 PM PDT by rednek ("Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.")
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To: Daffynition

Yikes! Didn’t their followers notice the Tammy Faye Baker type creepiness of the Mrs.?


3 posted on 03/24/2012 12:08:51 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Daffynition

Taking advantage of the sheep.

Hope they enjoy their comforts here and now, because there’s no comfort where they’re going.


4 posted on 03/24/2012 12:10:49 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Daffynition

This is good news. These people are false teachers who manipulate vulnerable people to get rich and they need to be investigated.


5 posted on 03/24/2012 12:12:18 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Daffynition

TBN could have been so much better if it hadn’t become a fiefdom of prosperity gospel greed.


6 posted on 03/24/2012 12:20:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: GeronL
TBN could have been so much better if it hadn’t become a fiefdom of prosperity gospel greed.

When was it ever not?

7 posted on 03/24/2012 12:23:48 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: rednek
CLAIMED EXPENDITURES

*$100,000-mobile home for Mrs Crouch's dogs
*$50 million luxury jet purchased through a sham loan
*$8 million personal Hawker jet for Mrs Crouch
*13 properties listed in the suit as 'guest homes' or 'church parsonages' in Florida, Texas, Tennessee and California
*$300,000 to $500,000 meal expenses for network directors, as well as the use of chauffeurs


8 posted on 03/24/2012 12:26:19 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition

Cleanup on isle 22...

Matthew 21:12-17

King James Version (KJV)

“And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.”


9 posted on 03/24/2012 12:26:19 PM PDT by 444Flyer (~Leaning on the everlasting arms~ (Deuteronomy 33:27) (John 3))
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To: Daffynition

Their granddaughter brought it to light. Good for her. God has His own way of cleaning house.


10 posted on 03/24/2012 12:27:38 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: Daffynition

Good for them and tough crap to all those suckers out there


11 posted on 03/24/2012 12:28:23 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Daffynition

I cannot believe that this couple is still on tv.

I had a patient who worked for them at Trinity broadcasting in So. Cal. She said at that time that they were the real thing, that they really believed everything that they were saying and lived quite modestly. Not any more, I guess.

She also said that those numerous breaks for fund raising and things that they had on the show, were really breaks to take the cameras off of them because they were always speaking in tongues and the producers wouldn’t allow it to be shown on the air. She said that you could always spot it because when they came back after a break, the woman’s eye make up would be running and she would be dabbing her eyes with a Kleenex or hankie.


12 posted on 03/24/2012 12:35:26 PM PDT by Eva
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Paul and Jan look they’re doing an over-the-top comedy skit about televangelists. They must laugh at what they can pass off as the gospel these days as they count their filthy lucre.


13 posted on 03/24/2012 12:36:37 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: lurk

Our family had a reclusive, dotty aunt, who became *hooked* on the Bakkers in the final years of her life.

Besides being a wealthy, a well-published author, in her own right; her husband was a very successful NE businessman.

She was very lonesome, and spent her days watching TBN, writing checks to the tune of what accumulated to hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Bakker ministries. When she passed, she was destitute. The probate court decided she was to be buried in a pauper’s grave. The family stepped up and bought her a plot and a fitting burial.

My heart goes out to anyone who *gives* with the best of intentions and their resources are misused by evil people, like these.


14 posted on 03/24/2012 12:39:31 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition

Were they name it and claim it preachers?


15 posted on 03/24/2012 12:42:09 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Only God can change a heart, but we can pray for hearts to be changed)
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To: Eva

**During TBN’s Praise-A-Thon earlier this month, a preacher exhorted viewers to bellow ‘Fear not!’ three times, count down from 10 and then rush to the phone with donations. In exchange, he said, they would receive a miracle from God ‘about this time tomorrow.’ Within seconds, all 200 phone lines were busy.

Ministry watchdogs have long questioned how TBN — which declared more than $800 million in net assets in 2010 — spends that wealth.

TBN files reports with the IRS, but the Crouches run nearly two dozen other organizations that are harder to track and they operate extensively overseas, said Rusty Leonard, who founded Wall Watchers, an organization that monitors the financial transparency of church ministries to which its members donate.

Wall Watchers gives TBN an ‘F’ for financial transparency and keeps them on its list of the 30 worst ministries.**


16 posted on 03/24/2012 12:44:09 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: GeronL
...and an off-shoot of QVC bad hair and excessive make-up....


17 posted on 03/24/2012 12:49:02 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition

ever trust a woman with pink hair...errr... wigs.


18 posted on 03/24/2012 12:51:15 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Daffynition

Yeah, I believe it. It was back in the eighties that I had the conversation with the woman who worked for them. She wasn’t part of the ministry. She might have even been Catholic. So, it wasn’t always so. She even told me where the Crouches lived.

I wonder if they still speak in tongues?


19 posted on 03/24/2012 12:51:37 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

20 posted on 03/24/2012 12:51:49 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition

You would have thought they would have learned something from the Bakkers...guess not. Stupid runs deep


21 posted on 03/24/2012 12:53:28 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Daffynition

Romans 12:19

New International Version (NIV)

19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[a] says the Lord.


22 posted on 03/24/2012 12:55:30 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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that should be :
Never trust a woman with pink hair...


23 posted on 03/24/2012 12:57:53 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Hayride

ALL of the mega church prosperity preachers are frauds. And I mean ALL including one here in Houston. “The love of money is the root of all evil”.

When a “preacher” takes a $14 million advance on a book, it makes me question his sincerity. If everything in that book is there to help people, why not give it away?

Then there’s the preacher that sells a book about the time God let him go to Heaven and look around. If God let me go to Heaven for a visit I’d be AFRAID to charge people to tell them about it.


24 posted on 03/24/2012 12:58:19 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( "It happened. And we let it happen. - Peter Griffin, Family Guy)
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To: Daffynition

Yes, there it is the hankie!


25 posted on 03/24/2012 1:00:04 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Daffynition

I’m sorry, but as I stated on another thread, I just have to know the reason for that PINK HAIR.


26 posted on 03/24/2012 1:02:29 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: Daffynition
The Crouches founded TBN in 1973 and grew it into an international Christian empire that beams... to every continent but Antarctica 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It has 78 satellites and more than 18,000 television and cable affiliates and owns seven other networks...

Wow.

27 posted on 03/24/2012 1:09:06 PM PDT by marron
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To: Daffynition

Give your donations to a ‘REAL Christian couple” and the sacrificial work they do in Haiti. They don’t live in mansions either but among the poor they serve. True heroes...

http://www.loveachild.com/


28 posted on 03/24/2012 1:11:20 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Terry Mross
Then there’s the preacher that sells a book about the time God let him go to Heaven and look around. If God let me go to Heaven for a visit I’d be AFRAID to charge people to tell them about it.

The apostle Paul spoke of a man he knew (most likely it was him) who was taken into Heaven and then forbidden to speak of what he saw while he was there.

We're supposed to believe these con artists who "go to Heaven" and write books and make money off the "experience" when Paul wasn't allowed to say a word about what he saw?

29 posted on 03/24/2012 1:13:41 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: Nifster

>>Stupid runs deep<<

I assume you mean the people who give their $$ to these shysters...


30 posted on 03/24/2012 1:16:42 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Personally I have no issue with purchasing books, CD’s or other items from Christian authors, ministers, etc....After all its not produced without cost nor effort so a $$ transaction is no biggie. However purchasing a product from a minister or church that practices an overly lavish lifestyle is definitely cause for refrain.


31 posted on 03/24/2012 1:23:13 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Eva
I wonder if they still speak in tongues?

If Holy Spirit gave them the gift of tongues, they probably still speak in tongues. I never read anywhere in the Bible where Divine gifts were rescended.

To whom much is given, much is required.

32 posted on 03/24/2012 1:38:45 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: tflabo
Oh, I agree with you completely.

This is where the discernment given by the Holy Spirit and study of the Scriptures comes in. If someone claiming to be a "Christian" teaches something that is in total opposition to the word of God, then we know that they are the "wolves in sheep's clothing" the Holy Spirit warned us about.

Unfortunately, many desperate and lonely and vulnerable people are taken in by these people and can lose every penny they have. And if you notice, those are the exact people who are targeted with promises of healing and help with wayward children and an end to financial problems.

The Paul and Jan Crouches of the world are despicable.

33 posted on 03/24/2012 1:41:31 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta ("....in the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: CatherineofAragon

Easy. That’s the color of the wig.


34 posted on 03/24/2012 1:44:33 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Daffynition

I bet hardly any-one (church goers) reading this knows of a church in their area who needs money. Why do stupid people give their hard earned income to these low life? I have Dish Net-work, as many others. There must be twelve religious stations to view, and I have only seen one I would give to, Catholic, and I’m not even close to being Catholic.


35 posted on 03/24/2012 1:54:13 PM PDT by buck61
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To: AppyPappy

Yes, but why, LOL? I would love to hear the woman explain why she thought pink hair was a good choice.


36 posted on 03/24/2012 2:01:31 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (I can haz Romney's defeat?)
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To: stars & stripes forever

I Corinthians 13:8


37 posted on 03/24/2012 2:16:53 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Daffynition

disgusting.


38 posted on 03/24/2012 3:29:59 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Nifster

The Crouches actually started out on the Bakkers TV network doing a kids puppet show so it looks like they learned everything including greed.


39 posted on 03/24/2012 3:44:41 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Daffynition
This thread reminded me of something. This:

F Preacher 1

F Preacher 2

(Note: Please put down your coffee - I shall not be responsible for any damaged keyboards! )


40 posted on 03/24/2012 3:45:49 PM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Daffynition

... they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

But godliness with contentment is great gain.

I Timothy 6:4-6


41 posted on 03/24/2012 4:21:12 PM PDT by Daniel II (Really??????)
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To: JaguarXKE

LOL...just how I view this whole regime of Hussein to have been ....one long sustained faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrtt.


42 posted on 03/24/2012 5:49:03 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daniel II; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

This whole notion of charismatics is a good analogy to the campaign of Hussein Obama.

November will come too slowly.


43 posted on 03/24/2012 5:53:07 PM PDT by Daffynition (On Andrew Breitbart: In his honor, I'll fight harder...He'll be back and he'll be millions.)
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To: Daffynition

Basically it is safer to donate to Christian groups and charities that do not continually beg and weep to you for money. Or promise miracles if you give.

The better rule of thumb is to give to those groups you watch or get info from that either a) don’t ever ask, b) that ask very infrequently but for specific projects and show budget numbers for their plans, and/or c) those you trust that provide you good, sound info or are doing good works/ministering but infrequently ask for money.

I will provide a few examples (certainly not all of them) of both charlatans and frauds never to give to, and safe, honest and trustworthy groups. After all we are told in Scripture to be careful who we support.

Frauds and Charlatans never to give to:

Joyce Meyers
Paul/Jan Crouch
Rick Warren
Bennie Hinn
TD Jakes
Ken and Gloria Copeland
Creflo Dollar
Mike Murdoch
Joel Osteen
Peter Popoff
Paula White

Safe Real Christian groups that will not waste/steal/take your donation for themselves personally:

Liberty Counsel
Alliance Defense Fund
Missionaries to the PreBorn
Noah’s Wish
The Gideons
One of your good, biblically sound local church
One or more good sound local christian charity groups serving one or more different groups of people needing help


44 posted on 03/24/2012 6:41:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Daffynition

Yes, she is one over-done, er, lady


45 posted on 03/24/2012 6:48:11 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dfwgator

Well, they use some non-prosperity gospel type shows for a good part of the day. Now its just Crouchland.


46 posted on 03/24/2012 6:49:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Daffynition

Not that I’m a fan of Bono, but as he said, “My God doesn’t need cash, Mister.”


47 posted on 03/24/2012 6:53:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: DocRock

I Corinthians 13:8 refers to when we are in heaven and see Jesus face to face. There will be no need for prophecy because everything will have been fulfilled.


48 posted on 03/24/2012 9:01:04 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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