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Warrantless: Police raid wrong house (76 yr old stroke victim)
Copyright 2012, AuburnPub.com, 25 Dill Street Auburn, NY ^ | Posted: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:00 am | Justin Murphy

Posted on 03/25/2012 7:48:03 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

There are few people less likely to sell drugs than Fred Skinner.

The 76-year-old lives alone on Mc Neeley Road in Victory, getting by with help from neighbors. Much of his home has been quietly abandoned because he can’t get up and down the stairs; his son, also named Fred Skinner, said his mind “goes in and out.”

Since suffering a stroke last July, he speaks haltingly, sleeps with an oxygen tank and has a pacemaker in his chest.

Skinner doesn’t hear as well as he used to, but there was no missing the pair of crashes he heard late in the morning on March 13.

The first was at the outside door to his front porch and the second was at the inner door from the porch to his living room. About eight uniformed police officers burst into his kitchen, finding him at the table with a plate of breakfast crumbs.

“I was just setting there at the table,” he said. “They busted in and said, ‘Don’t move,’ so I didn’t move. I didn’t know what to do — I didn’t know why the troopers were running through the house.”

The officers spread out into the basement and second floor then quickly returned. Someone was handcuffing Skinner’s arms behind his back when they looked through the mail on the table and saw his name.

“They said, ‘Is this your name?’” Skinner said. “I said, ‘Yes.’ Then they said, ‘Wrong house.’”

The officers left as quickly as they came, leaving his doorknob on the porch floor and the two doors broken open. The whole incident took five minutes.

Once they left, Skinner called Barbara Bailey, his neighbor across the street. Bailey saw five or six patrol cars at the house next door to Skinner’s and went out to them.

She asked who they were and what they were doing; they told her they were conducting a drug raid from Rochester, she said.

“I said, ‘What about Fred Skinner’s house?’” Bailey said. “And he shrugged like he wasn’t telling me a damn thing.”

No one was home at the other house, either -- Bailey said the man who lives there is often out of town. The officers left without an apology or information about how Skinner might get reimbursed for the damage.

The raid was conducted by the Rochester Police Department and the Finger Lakes Drug Task Force, which is led by the Auburn Police Department and, in this case, also involved the Cayuga County Sheriff’s Office.

No one involved would specify the purpose of the raid or say why the officers broke into the wrong house. No arrests have been made in the original drug case, which is still active.

The Rochester Police Department was the lead agency. Department spokesman Stephen Scott declined to comment but said there is an investigation into the incident.

“We haven’t determined there was a mistake yet; the investigation is still ongoing,” he said.


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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Let me guess. It's illegal to own firearms in Victory isn't it? These training exercises have got to stop. Citizens in states where your 2nd amendment rights are being denied you need to take your state back. Get rid of the sorry a** politicians that are hiring and funding these types of jack booted thugs. Here in Texas you rarely hear about a bunch of knuckle headed, government sanctioned gang members illegally busting into homes. They'd get shot here.

I'm just sayin.

61 posted on 03/25/2012 9:41:45 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth (Romney... Just put the (D) behind your name and be done with it.)
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
Let me guess. It's illegal to own firearms in Victory isn't it?

Victory is a rural community in Upstate New York where pistols require a permit but long guns are very common.

62 posted on 03/25/2012 9:47:32 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

At least they didn’t have any dogs to shoot.


63 posted on 03/25/2012 9:52:36 AM PDT by Principled
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To: bike800

“In my neck of the woods...we are required to stake out the house...get a written description of the residence...verify everything...take it to supervisor...before even applying for a search warrant...been in law enforcement for 20 years...never had a wrong residence hit....”

Mine was slightly different. I foreclosed on a house, and moved in to fix it up. Same smasked doors....cuffed me, and put me on a freezing floor, while they ransacked the house, and left it a shambles. Nobody would listen to me explain that the previous owner no longer lived there.


64 posted on 03/25/2012 10:05:38 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
AGAIN!!!???
65 posted on 03/25/2012 10:11:42 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: AlmaKing

“If the war on drugs were dropped, we wouldn’t have any of this non-sense. Neither innocent people nor cops would be put into these situations.”

Oh yes you WOULD! These are not all for drug raids.
Not by a long shot.


66 posted on 03/25/2012 10:15:14 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: PhiloBedo

“If LEO’s lost their job and had to pay restitution for these “mistakes”, they would do their homework and make fewer wrong entries.”

I don’t want them to lose their jobs for this without a chance at rehabilitation. Ten lashes with the Cat-o-Nine-Tails should do it for the first offense.


67 posted on 03/25/2012 10:28:35 AM PDT by dljordan ("Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; PhiloBedo; bamahead; listenhillary; pbmaltzman; Aevery_Freeman; ml/nj; ...
There's more to this incident that just property damage caused by the police insanity. There is psychological damages to Mr. Skinner and, above all, a clear deprivation of Mr. Skinner's Fourth Amendment right to be protected against unwarranted, unconsented, non-exigent government break-ins and trespassing on his private property.

There is a federal civil rights statute which is designed specifically to obtain redress for such federal constitutional violations perpetrated by state or local government officials.

Hopefully, some attorney or law firm will aid Mr. Skinner in filing a federal suit against the perpetrators for all the damages suffered. And yes, violations of constitutional rights can carry a monetary price tag as well as property or physical or emotional damages.

Constitutionalists and libertarians must encourage and aid in any way they can American citizens who suffer abuses of their constitutional rights from government officials at any level - federal, state, county, or municipal - in seeking legal redress for their deprivations. And we must be persistent at it, until courts are more responsive to these cases.

68 posted on 03/25/2012 11:16:39 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

B U M P


69 posted on 03/25/2012 11:36:33 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Oh hurray, they will apologize. That makes it OK?


70 posted on 03/25/2012 11:37:53 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Fire them all, and forfeit their pensions. The existing pensions will fund the victim’s damages and lawsuit winnings so the people who effed up will be accountable.

Seriously.

Anytime SWAT does this crap. They’re done. And hard jail time if they murder innocent people. Enough.


71 posted on 03/25/2012 11:44:18 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: skinkinthegrass

This has little to do with Obama. SWAT teams all across the country have been raiding wrong homes, shooting dogs, murdering innocent people believing they home is being invaded (which it truly is) and then not admitting mistakes, leaving with no apologies or any info as to claim damages.

It’s been going on for over 30 years.


72 posted on 03/25/2012 11:46:53 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: OldMissileer

Read State Dept Publication 5277 Freedom From War. It’s about establishing internal paramilitary forces for countries. The regular armies go under the world government, but internal security forces will deal with internal conflicts. that is what it is really all about. War on drugs is largely a cover/plausible denial issue. Many of them believe they are doing it for war on drugs, just gives it all more credibility.


73 posted on 03/25/2012 11:51:04 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: unixfox
Eventually someone is going to shoot back. And the blood will be on these Jack Booted Thugs.

http://www.theagitator.com/2012/01/09/dea-agent-uses-death-of-swat-cop-to-propagandize/

74 posted on 03/25/2012 11:58:49 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: justiceseeker93
absolutely right!!!
75 posted on 03/25/2012 12:01:23 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Is this the same Rochester police force who pulled this stunt?

http://endthelie.com/2011/06/25/rochester-police-harass-supporters-of-woman-who-was-arrested-for-filming-cops-from-her-lawn/#axzz1q9mXIgJs


76 posted on 03/25/2012 12:05:43 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"It’s been going on for over 30 years."
that's understood..Don Scott, Randy Weaver & WACO,TX
bears mentioning; the heinous acts, were during Democrat
state/national administrations and it's getting worse since '92.

77 posted on 03/25/2012 12:18:32 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass ( Kill all the terrorists, Protect (all) the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass
that's understood..Don Scott, Randy Weaver & WACO,TX bears mentioning; the heinous acts, were during Democrat state/national administrations and it's getting worse since '92.

Randy Weaver was under Bush I and the Waco siege started under Bush I. The police state is bipartisan. Don't think so? Name a single time a bad SWAT raid or dog shooting was mentioned on talk radio or Fox News. Name a Republican who criticized the militarization of police.

No, our wonderful rulers all across the spectrum love the police state. And so do the voters.

78 posted on 03/25/2012 12:28:13 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Sheep and insects need leaders.)
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To: TwoSwords; yefragetuwrabrumuy
What if I am just scared that the "Law" is gonna bust down my door whether I am breaking the law or not? What if I safeguard my house to the extreme and LEOs get killed and maimed trying to execute a no-knock search on my residence. I know that I am doing nothing worthy of this kind of LEO attention but I am sure that Mr. Skinner thought the same thing.

WARNING: UNINVITED ENTRY INTO THESE PREMISES MAY BE FATAL.

79 posted on 03/25/2012 12:33:04 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Bigh4u2

I left Rochester, too, just before the economy of the area collapsed. 2000.


80 posted on 03/25/2012 12:39:47 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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