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After a Real Shooting
Guns & Ammo ^ | May 26, 2011 | Brock Norman

Posted on 03/25/2012 11:24:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler

What should you say, or what should you NOT say if you’re involved in a shooting? Massad Ayoob shares the 5-points to cover when the police arrive.

(Excerpt) Read more at gunsandammo.com ...


TOPICS: Hobbies; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealed; firearms; police; shooting
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To: rarestia

Absolutely. Great advice. I use a guy that was the DA and current LEO counsel. He knows the ins and outs of such situations and advised me on proper procedures both for a shoot and what to do afterwards. I couldn’t argue or disagree with a single piece of advice he had to offer. His fees were very reasonable; about $500 for the retainer and good advice, and he settled my last shoot for $1,500. Best money I ever spent, next to an engagement ring for the now wife.


21 posted on 03/26/2012 12:07:57 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: Gilbo_3

Well, once you “lawyer up” by stating you’ll be waiting for an attorney the police are supposed to let you be until that time as anything they demand from you after that can be dismissed from evidence. I only answer questions that help them direct their on-scene investigation or control, such as pointing out witnesses or where the involved weapons may be found, my name and where my ID is, etc. Helpful but only factual and direct. Descriptions of the scene, events, players, etc are strictly off limits.


22 posted on 03/26/2012 12:12:09 PM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: CodeToad
once you “lawyer up” by stating you’ll be waiting for an attorney the police are supposed to let you be

that *supposed to* is where i really meant for the call to the EMTs to come in...when they press beyond the bounds...

some say that immediately 'lawyering' is sometimes seen as a defacto admission of something, as *only* the guilty party calls for counsel...

if, immediately after the event, you feel lightheaded, short of breath, and chest tightness, *they* will want to give you room and not risk being considered at fault if you were denied medical treatment, giving time to let the adrenaline come down, and get that counsel, w/o specifically challenging them to *allow* it...

just extra food for thought on the thread...

23 posted on 03/26/2012 12:22:57 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: MasterGunner01

Is that the content of the video that I can’t find at the link?


24 posted on 03/26/2012 12:27:41 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: Gilbo_3
good info, but dont forget, at least as a last resort, to complain of “shortness of breath/chest pain” to buy some *alone* time at the hospital to await counsel...

I don't think lying to the cops is the best idea I've seen on the thread. Once you've said enough to clear the emergency (IE, could there be another assailant?), they have to respect your wishes to clam up until you get counsel.

25 posted on 03/26/2012 12:34:31 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: Gilbo_3

Your follow up comments clarify a lot. Sorry....


26 posted on 03/26/2012 12:37:52 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: Cyber Liberty

hehehe...most of my comments need clarification...8^}


27 posted on 03/26/2012 12:45:22 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

Yeah, me too...as evidenced by #25 & 26. LOL


28 posted on 03/26/2012 12:47:58 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: Ramius

Preach it brother! I keep an extra around too, and recommend it online to others frequently.


29 posted on 03/26/2012 3:23:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: gaijin

Flying with guns is easy. You check them. Usually the line is shorter than if you are checking luggage.


30 posted on 03/26/2012 4:28:53 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: Cyber Liberty

The YouTube link was through Guns and Ammo as I recall. It featured Tom Gresham and Massad Ayoob. i don’t have the link any more and I didn’t find it with a quick search. The link was embedded in a posting as a reply in a FR article. That’s about all I can tell you.


31 posted on 03/27/2012 7:29:11 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: Gilbo_3

I spoke to Mr Attoryney last night. His advice was not to play that short of breath gambit becuase it can be used against you in that you are admitting to not being of good health. Imagine getting grilled on just when your health was having problems and did it contribute to your lack of good judgement in the shoot. What “lack of good judgement?” Well, you did admit immediately after the shoot that you needed medical care.


32 posted on 03/27/2012 7:42:18 AM PDT by CodeToad (I'm so right-wing if I lifted my left leg I'd go into a spin.)
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To: CodeToad

I suspect that if you were afraid for your life and had to shoot someone, you might really be short of breath or lightheaded. Adrenaline dumps are really something else.


33 posted on 03/28/2012 1:51:15 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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