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Trayvon Martin: The Neuroscience of What Makes People Trigger-Happy (Barf)
Time Magazine ^ | March 26, 2012 | Erika Christakis

Posted on 03/28/2012 10:53:44 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

If you were handed a can of bug spray, you might start killing a lot of insects around the house. And if you had reason to believe that the bugs were poisonous — maybe because your neighbor told you there was an infestation, or you had seen a show about creepy crawly things on the Discovery Channel — you might even become convinced that the little piece of lint under your bed was a nasty spider, curled up just waiting to bite you.

Americans tend to overestimate both their risk of exposure to violent crime and their ability to judge dangerous situations with reasonable care. Unfortunately, these misperceptions are killing people, not insects.

These problems assumed special urgency with the killing last month of Trayvon Martin, the teenage boy who was shot by George Zimmerman, an armed neighborhood-watch volunteer, after buying a bag of candy and iced tea. Most of the outrage has focused on the potential racism, bias and incompetence of the parties involved. As we’ve learned more about what happened on that fatal night, it seems increasingly likely that Zimmerman’s reckless actions may have violated Florida’s lenient law on justifiable force.

But the particulars of this case obscure a larger concern. “Stand your ground” laws, which allow a person to use force as a first resort in virtually any setting in which a threat is felt, do not account for the significant limitations and distortions of human perception.

Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression.

The link has been observed — in all kinds of lab-based and real-life settings — with different weapons and behavioral outcomes.

(Excerpt) Read more at ideas.time.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
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1 posted on 03/28/2012 10:53:52 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Getting sucker punched and pummelled on the ground would make me trigger happy...just sayin.


2 posted on 03/28/2012 11:02:06 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
More stupidity and ignorance by idiots that don't know what they are talking about. This reinforces my decision to never hire someone from Harvard. Anyone that has taken 1L legal courses know this is crap.

But the particulars of this case obscure a larger concern. “Stand your ground” laws, which allow a person to use force as a first resort in virtually any setting in which a threat is felt, do not account for the significant limitations and distortions of human perception.

No. Stand your ground does not do that at all. Learn something before you spout off your ignorance. Stand your ground laws allow people to defend themselves without a duty to retreat if they have a reasonable fear of their lives. REASONABLE being the key word.

Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression.

WTF? Most concealed carry holders I know are LESS aggressive when they carry.

Unfortunately, our brains are not wired to be sufficiently “reasonable” when we are holding a firearm. A grip on a gun can loosen our grip on reality.

What a crock. REALITY - something you don't know anything about - shows that this is not the case. We know this because the crime rate for concealed carry holders is lower than the cops.

Reasonable is also a relatively objective standard for the jury, which is used in most legal proceedings. The "reasonable man" (or woman) standard.

Harvard proved that they suck. Again.

3 posted on 03/28/2012 11:03:43 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression."

Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression left-wing liberal idiot morons like me, in possession of a typewriter or computer and with access to a public venue, can write total bullshit lies which makes the masses HURL MASSIVE CHUNKS OF VOMIT."

Fixed it for the lying dem skank and her agenda.

4 posted on 03/28/2012 11:04:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry 0bummer and another 4yrs of his Regime From Hell!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If Obama and his ilk think that this Trayvon thing, and ginnying it up, is a ‘winning’ issue, they’d better think again. Nothing could be better for his defeat than the country seeing Obama as the great Race-beiter-In-Chief (as opposed to the “uniter”) going into the 2012 campaign.


5 posted on 03/28/2012 11:04:43 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression."

Ted Kennedy's car killed more people than all the guns in my family for the last three generations...well, not counting all those Germans in Normandy.
6 posted on 03/28/2012 11:06:11 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

All too often, when it comes to the “Trayvon” demographic, America would be a much better place, if people were MORE “trigger happy”.


7 posted on 03/28/2012 11:07:03 AM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the bug were biting or stinging the hell out of me I might be really inclined to spray him.


8 posted on 03/28/2012 11:07:07 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression.

I bet neither Mizzzzz Erika nor her precious "psychologists" have ever actually handled an actual weapon ... I bet they're scared to. I bet that they feel that they themselves cannot be trusted to handle weapons responsibly, and that they are projecting their own incompetence and irresponsibility on everybody else.

9 posted on 03/28/2012 11:07:33 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The bottom line is this: If Zimmerman did not have a gun, he would probably be the one dead now, instead of one budding hoodlum.

Has anyone checked to see if this son-of-obama beat anyone else to death? Any unexplained deaths in his neighborhood? It sounds like he was EXPERIENCED at attacking.


10 posted on 03/28/2012 11:09:54 AM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: carriage_hill

The Democrats had support in the past with hoodie goons called the KKK. Let’s bring up the support of today’s democrats and you will find goons still wearing hoods called LIBERALS.


11 posted on 03/28/2012 11:10:13 AM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Ah yes, the kind of deep thinking we've grown to expect and love from the pages of Time.
12 posted on 03/28/2012 11:10:13 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (The only flaw is that America doesn't recognize Cyber's omniscience. -- sergeantdave)
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To: carriage_hill

The Democrats had support in the past with hoodie goons called the KKK. Let’s bring up the support of today’s democrats and you will find goons still wearing hoods called LIBERALS.


13 posted on 03/28/2012 11:10:24 AM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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To: carriage_hill

The Democrats had support in the past with hoodie goons called the KKK. Let’s bring up the support of today’s democrats and you will find goons still wearing hoods called LIBERALS.


14 posted on 03/28/2012 11:10:36 AM PDT by Red Barr (The liberals cant get over our victory!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon Perpetually aggressive and sensitive chip on ones shoulder does increase aggression in some races."
15 posted on 03/28/2012 11:16:33 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Projection.


16 posted on 03/28/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25% more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon Perpetually aggressive and sensitive chip on ones shoulder does increase aggression in some races."

They also know that people who use drugs exhibit irrational and aggressive behavior. Trayvon's "baggie" had pot "residue". Was Trayvon high when he assaulted George?

17 posted on 03/28/2012 11:23:20 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Erika, my country being destroyed by race-baiting commie-libs like YOU makes me trigger-happy. If y’all start it, I GUARANTEE we will end it.


18 posted on 03/28/2012 11:26:02 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If you were handed a can of bug spray, you might start killing a lot of insects around the house. And if you had reason to believe that the bugs were poisonous — maybe because your neighbor told you there was an infestation, or you had seen a show about creepy crawly things on the Discovery Channel — you might even become convinced that the little piece of lint under your bed was a nasty spider, curled up just waiting to bite you.

She's exactly right. If that little piece of lint under my bed decked me with one punch, broke my nose, and then violently banged my head into the ground, I would be more than happy to zap it with the bug spray or with any other available tool that would solve the problem. Is that a problem to any sane person?

19 posted on 03/28/2012 11:31:44 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
BS to this article. Many times you get only one chance to respond in a violent situation. You must respond with enough force to neutralize the threat immediately. This moron wants everyone to stop and think the situation through. That is a good way to end up very dead. People who carry a CCW are required to take classes that include knowing when to use deadly force and when not to. You have to figure this out ahead of time so you can recognize the threat as it occurs. There is no time to think about it.
20 posted on 03/28/2012 11:31:58 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Time?

Is that the cute little 16-page pamphlet I saw at the dentist office last week?

21 posted on 03/28/2012 11:37:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe he’s right, but about the wrong assault.

Maybe Trayvon Martin brutally attacked Zimmerman because all his life he has been taught by the race-baiters that all whites are out to get him, and that he is in danger of being shot or killed simply for walking through a neighborhood.

So when he was being followed by a big guy, he assumed the guy was going to attack him and therefore he lashed out and attacked first.

Is there any doubt that if Trayvon had owned a knife, he would have tried to stab Zimmerman to death? He was trying to break his skull, after all. And if Trayvon had a gun, that he would have shot Zimmerman?

And why? I mean, some assume he’s a thug. But what if he wasn’t a thug, but was just a typical black person who believes Al Sharpton and the entire democrat elected black political class that all whites mean to harm him or kill him?

That fear could have caused him to attack needlessly, and therefore caused him to be killed.

So, I believe Al Sharpton is responsible for the death of Trayvon Martin.


22 posted on 03/28/2012 11:44:59 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Trigger Happy
by Weird Al Yankovic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4cDUp61PNI


23 posted on 03/28/2012 11:53:32 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I think she is simply saying that it is wrong for victims to fight back. It puts an undue burden on the aggressor.
24 posted on 03/28/2012 12:00:59 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Quit poking holes in the life raft!)
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Looking at this article makes my brain hurt. I fail to see real logic in this article. For example: In addition, Americans generally overestimate the risk of violent crime from strangers and from people of different races. In 2007, only 5% of assaults, 1% of rapes and 25% of robberies were committed by a person carrying a firearm. In 2010, strangers accounted for 39% of violent crime, and less than 10% of violent crime was committed with a firearm. What does the percentage of crimes committed with someone with a firearm have anything to do with the risk of crime? If I a robbed or assulted on the street with a knife, bat or fists, is that not a violent crime? I could just as easily say 100% of robberies are committed by a threat of violence. Another perception problem has to do with our risk of violence. Many Americans are unaware that violent crime has declined to levels not since the 1960s. In major cities, the decline has been the most dramatic, with homicide rates dipping from 35.5 per 100,000 in 1991 to 11.9 per 100,000 in 2008. Could this drop be from more law abiding citizen carrying guns and criminals fear them and don't attack? Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression. The link has been observed — in all kinds of lab-based and real-life settings — with different weapons and behavioral outcomes. If someone regularly exercise their right to carry a gun, it becomes a tool like any other. My guess is their studies are on people who do not regularly carry a concealed weapon. This article is a bunch of bunk.
25 posted on 03/28/2012 12:08:19 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://themadjewess.com/2012/02/23/feminist-fascist-erika-christakis-catholic-bishops-should-be-imprisoned-for-opposing-obama-care-mandates/

More from Erika. She’s a trip, so’s this site.
(Just whipping the Catholics into a lather. Is Lent still on?)


26 posted on 03/28/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by tumblindice (our new, happy lives)
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To: gunnut
Looking at this article makes my brain hurt. I fail to see real logic in this article. For example:

In addition, Americans generally overestimate the risk of violent crime from strangers and from people of different races. In 2007, only 5% of assaults, 1% of rapes and 25% of robberies were committed by a person carrying a firearm. In 2010, strangers accounted for 39% of violent crime, and less than 10% of violent crime was committed with a firearm.

What does the percentage of crimes committed with someone with a firearm have anything to do with the risk of crime? If I a robbed or assulted on the street with a knife, bat or fists, is that not a violent crime? I could just as easily say 100% of robberies are committed by a threat of violence.

Another perception problem has to do with our risk of violence. Many Americans are unaware that violent crime has declined to levels not since the 1960s. In major cities, the decline has been the most dramatic, with homicide rates dipping from 35.5 per 100,000 in 1991 to 11.9 per 100,000 in 2008.

Could this drop be from more law abiding citizen carrying guns and criminals fear them and don't attack?

Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression. The link has been observed — in all kinds of lab-based and real-life settings — with different weapons and behavioral outcomes.

If someone regularly exercise their right to carry a gun, it becomes a tool like any other. My guess is their studies are on people who do not regularly carry a concealed weapon.

This article is a bunch of bunk.

27 posted on 03/28/2012 12:37:17 PM PDT by gunnut
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To: gunnut
My guess is their studies are on people who do not regularly carry a concealed weapon.

Bet you're right - lotta junk science around nowadays.

28 posted on 03/28/2012 12:38:38 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: tumblindice
Is Lent still on?

Until Easter.

29 posted on 03/28/2012 12:42:31 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: gunnut
"bunch of bunk"

Do the anti-gun nuts ever think about how many women might be alive today if they had been armed? Women on average are smaller and weaker than men. Men often don't need firearms to murder women...raw strength is enough much of the time. Firearms are great equalizers as Colt noted more than a century ago.

30 posted on 03/28/2012 12:46:46 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: gunnut
My guess is their studies are on people who do not regularly carry a concealed weapon.

Sure enough, the paper she linked studied 18 undergrads with no indication that the authors even considered degree of familiarity with firearms - so odds are none of the previous studies cited did so either (or else these authors would have followed in those footsteps).

Good call! Bad science.

31 posted on 03/28/2012 12:55:16 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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The “Weapons Effect” hypothesis suggests that guns can psychologically control people and cause them to be violent. In this article, Paul Gallant and Joanne D. Eisen analyze previous research about the weapons effect and examine more recent studies to test their agreement with the hypothesis. The authors conclude that evidence does not support the “Weapons Effect” hypothesis
32 posted on 03/28/2012 1:01:40 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

junk science. from the same people who said video games are violent by using the operative definition of violence means each time the button is pressed.


33 posted on 03/28/2012 1:17:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
If you were handed a can of bug spray, you might start killing a lot of insects around the house.

If I were ten years old or a liberal I might, Erika. I own many guns but I have never shot anyone with one. FWIW I don't have any bug spray and I capture all bugs alive and toss them outside where they belong. I don't kill things unless they are an immediate threat to my health and well being.

34 posted on 03/28/2012 1:20:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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since Skittles (tm) were present at this violent incident then Skittles (tm) are associated with violence.

Skittles (tm) should be outlawed immediatly!!! (its got the children..)


35 posted on 03/28/2012 1:24:10 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Psychologists have known for more than 40 years that possession of a weapon can increase aggression.

Psychologists and psychiatrists have many things to say...

Articles that explain how modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


36 posted on 03/28/2012 1:31:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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