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Robert George and Robert Godes of Brillouin Energy Announce Successful Cold Fusion Reactor
E-Cat World ^ | March 29, 2012 | Frank Acland

Posted on 03/30/2012 5:10:35 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog

James Martinez of Cash Flow Radio has conducted an interview with Brillouin Energy‘s Chief Executive Officer Robert George and President and Chief Technical Officer Robert E. Godes.

The reason they said they are ready to conduct an interview at this point (and not earlier) is because they have been able to develop a control system that allows a reaction to start and stop, and run in a steady state mode. They said that next month they will be working with Mike McKubre of SRI International to run a reactor at a higher temperature.

Godes states that the Brillouin’s reaction starts with an endothermic reaction (reaction that absorbs heat) and ends with a more powerful exothermic reaction (reaction releases heat). Brillouin is working on two systems, the first one provides heat at 140 degrees C, (called the “wet boiler”) the second one reaches 400 – 450 degrees C. George says that they have applied for patents, but have been told by a patent examiner at the US Patent Office that the office is still not permitted to grant patents in the cold fusion field.

Robert George said that financing has been difficult to obtain, and they are working towards securing a two million dollar investment. Their business plan is not to manufacture products, but to license technology to third party producers. George says that Brillouin has been receiving visits from a number of entities, including the Naval Research Lab and “major corporations.”

Godes expresses doubts about whether both Andrea Rossi and Defkalion actually have technology that is ready for the marketplace, but says he would like to see them succeed in order to bring recognition and acceptance to the field of cold fusion.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: coldfusion; energy; fission; fusion; lanr; lenr
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Another cold fusion claim of success.

This is a summation of a verbal interview, which can be found:

http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/audio/2012-03-27-Robert-E-Godes.mp3

I have NOT listened to the actual interview (just can't hear well enough).

1 posted on 03/30/2012 5:10:39 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Links of interest:

http://coldfusionnow.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/audio/2012-03-27-Robert-E-Godes.mp3

http://www.brillouinenergy.com/

http://www.brillouinenergy.com/Brillouin_Second_Round_Data.pdf


2 posted on 03/30/2012 5:12:13 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

My skeptical meter pegged in the red when I saw words 4,5, and 6...


3 posted on 03/30/2012 5:14:33 AM PDT by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Hope ‘n Change ain’t enough to get ya through that Coulomb Barrier!


4 posted on 03/30/2012 5:19:02 AM PDT by Blado (Hey libs - write in Mick Jagger! He's the more Authentic African-American!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

MUY INTERESANTE.


5 posted on 03/30/2012 5:19:51 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Wonder Warthog

The lizard people use these cold fusion reactors for all their energy needs.


6 posted on 03/30/2012 5:29:43 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Blado
But the Gamow WIndow (quantum tunneling) is. Stars do it everyday. So do their coronae (according to Larsen-Widom and the Indian guy).

Fur Shur you don't want to start with anything bigger than an hydrogen atom with but one proton (hence Nature's preference for fusing hydrogen).

Obviously stars represent both the high pressure, hot fusion model as well as the low pressure, cold fusion model.

We know that attempts to recreate the high pressure, hot fusion model on Earth (In a controlled fashion) results in nothing more than a multibillion dollar rathole of waste as semi-employed physicist after semi-employed physicist comes up with yet another reason to waste our resources on it.

7 posted on 03/30/2012 5:31:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Wonder Warthog
Announce Successful Cold Fusion Reactor

Announce successful pill that turns water into motor fuel
Announce successful device that when clamped on your fuel line gets 100 mpg
Announce successful perpetual motion
Announce successful universal cure for cancer.

Anyone who wants to invest in this, I have a better ideal, I just got a note the other day from the widow of an African finance minister who wants me to help her get $27,000,000 dollars out of Ivory Coast, and she'll give me 10% if I just give her my bank routing number. I'm holding out for a higher percentage, but anyone who wants to invest in cold fusion might want to settle for 10%.

8 posted on 03/30/2012 5:33:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: SunkenCiv

/mark


9 posted on 03/30/2012 5:34:33 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Wonder Warthog

They can tell you how it works...but then they’d have to “stune you with their beebers!”


10 posted on 03/30/2012 5:35:47 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: Wonder Warthog

If this is true and they get it to market, a week won’t go by before the EPA announces a sea water shortage. We will then begin importing water from Saudi Arabia.


11 posted on 03/30/2012 5:46:04 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (No wonder this administration favors abortion; everything they have done is an abortion)
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To: Wonder Warthog

And it will all be available.......tomorrow/s

So tired of the “Eureka” followed by wait til next month


12 posted on 03/30/2012 6:03:20 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: muawiyah

And when NIF actually achieves fusion later this year ( and it will) we’ll see your responses then


13 posted on 03/30/2012 6:05:11 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: djf
"My skeptical meter pegged in the red when I saw words 4,5, and 6..."

Well, you've proved you can count to six. Now, go the the .PDF link and study the data.

14 posted on 03/30/2012 6:19:20 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Blado
"Hope ‘n Change ain’t enough to get ya through that Coulomb Barrier!"

Apparently, a significant number of theorists disagree with you. Suggest starting with Dr. Srivastata's presentation at CERN.

15 posted on 03/30/2012 6:20:49 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Vinnie
"The lizard people use these cold fusion reactors for all their energy needs."

Well, I haven't seen any evidence for the existence of the lizard people, but there is quite a bit of evidence (peer-reviewed and otherwise) for CF.

16 posted on 03/30/2012 6:22:18 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Panzerlied
"They can tell you how it works...but then they’d have to “stune you with their beebers!”

At this point, nobody knows how it works. There are conflicting theories. What matters is the replicated data done by different researchers....which absolutely exists.

17 posted on 03/30/2012 6:24:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Nifster
"And it will all be available.......tomorrow/s. So tired of the “Eureka” followed by wait til next month."

LOL. The "hot" physicists have been doing that for fifty years. So have the cancer researchers. We have neither a working "hot fusion" reactor, nor a cure for cancer.

But just once, I wish one of you guys would actually present an argument BASED ON DATA, and spend some time studying the existing DATA for LANR.

Unlike many others, Godes and company have been completely open, and you can see (at least some) of their data on their website.

18 posted on 03/30/2012 6:30:56 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Now, you’re just reacting defensive.

Put the bottle down, dude. I believe in cold fusion.

In fact I believe in an radical theory of cosmology proposed by Sakharov and Puthoff based on the ZPE (which is for all intents and purposes, infinite) and forever, uninteruptable universal expansion.

It’ll happen. People might die, but it will happen.


19 posted on 03/30/2012 6:32:27 AM PDT by djf (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts)
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To: Kevmo

Kev....late ping...would you do the “list thing”?? Found and posted this just before leaving for work (at which I just arrived), so I’m about to “submerge” again ‘til “quittin’ time”.


20 posted on 03/30/2012 6:33:43 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Kevmo

Kev....late ping...would you do the “list thing”?? Found and posted this just before leaving for work (at which I just arrived), so I’m about to “submerge” again ‘til “quittin’ time”.


21 posted on 03/30/2012 6:34:03 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: from occupied ga

“Announce successful pill that turns water into motor fuel.”

I actually saw a fictional story on exactly that on TV about 45 years ago. I have NO idea what the show was...Amazing Stories or something. Wasn’t Twilight Zone, it was supposed to be based on a true story. All their episodes were, I think. (Sorry to be so vague. It wasn’t a show I watch regularly.)

All I really remember is that a guy — maybe 1920s or ‘30s era — runs out of gas. He asks a man if he can use his water hose, fills his gas tank with water, throws in a little pill or three, and drives off. The good Samaritan stands there scratching his head as the other fellow drives away.

I think the only reason I remember it at all is because it was supposedly based on a true story.


22 posted on 03/30/2012 6:35:36 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Nifster
I've been waiting for a good number of decades for someone to achieve controlled hot fusion, and I have no doubt that wait will extend into the distant future.

I think you forgot your "(/s)"

23 posted on 03/30/2012 6:38:00 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lee'sGhost
actually saw a fictional story on exactly that on TV about 45 years ago.

I've seen it done too. The secret is a small hidden gas tank that the driver switches to and cuts the water tank and pill out of the system.

24 posted on 03/30/2012 7:12:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

Well, that’s not what I was going for. I was just talking about a TV show.


25 posted on 03/30/2012 7:14:55 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: from occupied ga
Announce successful pill that turns water into motor fuel

I was going to make that announcement today, but was concerned that the EPA would over-regulate it. OTOH, if I make the announcment at 4PM on a Friday, like the (In)Justice Department did with all of their document dumps regarding Fast & Furious, it could all fly under the radar.

Double touche before lunch! I win!

26 posted on 03/30/2012 7:50:10 AM PDT by Pecos (O.K., joke's over. Time to bring back the Constitution.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Look up the latest info on the National Ignition facility... they have the energy available and the targets and are getting ready for fusion. They are also working on making it available to the public.... and it has only been 40 years since original proof of concept


27 posted on 03/30/2012 8:31:45 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: muawiyah

watch the news by fall of this year


28 posted on 03/30/2012 8:32:17 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
Hmmmm!! Proof of concept.!!!

(IMAGINE HOMER SIMPSON)

29 posted on 03/30/2012 8:38:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

The only thing that gives orders... is balls KINETIC ENERGY.

30 posted on 03/30/2012 8:52:31 AM PDT by Blado (Hey libs - write in Mick Jagger! He's the more Authentic African-American!)
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To: Vinnie

“The lizard people use these cold fusion reactors for all their energy needs.”

Yes, but they stole the technology from the mole men.


31 posted on 03/30/2012 10:56:34 AM PDT by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Lee'sGhost

Jethro did that on the Beverly Hillbilly’s but he had the selector labeled backwards so when he went to gas from water, it stalled. It was pretty funny.


32 posted on 03/30/2012 12:08:13 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Is this the same Mike McKubre that Krivit seems to have a beef with over deleted and fudged data? It shouldn’t matter as it appears they just want him to see if he can get it to run at a higher temperature.

From the article it says the second system is operating around 400-450 Celsius. Is that enough to drive a steam turbine?

Is this a fusor type reactor? I’ll look at the data this evening.


33 posted on 03/30/2012 12:14:42 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: muawiyah

Four decades ago. Current status is a peta Watt laser impacting targets successfully. Next step is ignition


34 posted on 03/30/2012 1:05:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
"Look up the latest info on the National Ignition facility... they have the energy available and the targets and are getting ready for fusion. They are also working on making it available to the public.... and it has only been 40 years since original proof of concept"

Practical power plant?? No. And a typical change of subject whenever I ask one of those touting "hot fusion" WHY cold fusion "just can't happen" despite reams of data saying that it does. WHERE are the CF experiments flawed??

But the response is always some variation on "mumble, mumble....Coulomb Barrier.....mumble, mumble".

Here's a clue for all you pseudo-scientists.....EXPERIMENT determines the validity of THEORY.....NOT the reverse.

35 posted on 03/30/2012 3:21:01 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Lx
"Is this the same Mike McKubre that Krivit seems to have a beef with over deleted and fudged data? It shouldn’t matter as it appears they just want him to see if he can get it to run at a higher temperature."

Yes. I've read Krivit's critique, and his accusations just don't wash.

"From the article it says the second system is operating around 400-450 Celsius. Is that enough to drive a steam turbine?"

At risk of arousing the knee-jerk anti-Rossi brigage....yes....there are variations of turbines that can be run on lower temperature steam..Rossi mentions that Siemens has such technology, and it is what he plans to use to generate electricity from his E-cats.

The turbine is real, even if the E-cat might not be.

"Is this a fusor type reactor? I’ll look at the data this evening."

No. This is a gas-loaded solid substrate CF reactor similar to Rossi's E-Cat, Miley's zirconium oxide paladium (or nickel) system, and several others.

36 posted on 03/30/2012 3:29:14 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

and yet they are indeed designing and planning for practical power plants using this technique. You have not done as much homework as you would like to think


37 posted on 03/30/2012 10:10:23 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
"....and yet they are indeed designing and planning for practical power plants using this technique. You have not done as much homework as you would like to think.

So is Rossi. So are the "magnetic fusion" guys. I suspect Rossi will deliver a pracital power plant before the NIF does. I'm quite familiar with the NIF. I've done consulting work for (and at) LLNL (though not on anything fusion-related).

And again...you're changing the subject. This thread is about LANR/CF, not the NIF. Since you're so convinced that LANR is "not real", and you've "read every paper on the subject", surely you can describe your scientific objections to the concept.

38 posted on 03/31/2012 7:23:24 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
I still haven't read the .pdf but will get to it after I do some wrenching.

At risk of arousing the knee-jerk anti-Rossi brigage....yes....there are variations of turbines that can be run on lower temperature steam..Rossi mentions that Siemens has such technology, and it is what he plans to use to generate electricity from his E-cats.

We might as well leave Rossi out of the picture for now but I thought 400o to 450oC was the normal range for a steam turbine? If not, what is the lowest typical operating range for a steam turbine power plant?

I don't know if I'm reading this correctly. You said it's similar to zirconium oxide -palladium or that is what they use? So, is it an electrolytic cell like P&F? If so, what is the availability of this element, zirconium oxide?

Looking at a periodic table, zirconium 40) palladium (46) is farther to the right of Iron than Nickel(28) and copper (29)are. My understanding is that in what is thought of as conventional fusion, going to the right of Iron on the periodic table means it takes more energy to fuse these elements together where if the elements are to the left of Iron, fusing them gets you more energy out??

Is there a hole in conventional physics or can it explain these reactions? If not and these do work, it sounds like whoever gets the theory right might be the man of the hour so to speak.

39 posted on 03/31/2012 8:56:16 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Since you will not accept arguments involving fundamental understanding of fusion (thosed nasty things like the Gamow Window) there is very little that anyone can offer such a high class scientist as yourself.

I note that all the CF folks have been promising deliverables with dates attachede and yet have never done so.

We will see who delivers first.


40 posted on 03/31/2012 9:20:58 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Wonder Warthog
So is Rossi. So are the "magnetic fusion" guys. I suspect Rossi will deliver a pracital power plant before the NIF does. I'm quite familiar with the NIF.

The real purpose of the NIF is nuclear weapons testing research. Neither they or the Scam Cat inventor will deliver power plants.

I've done consulting work for (and at) LLNL (though not on anything fusion-related).

How many urinal cakes did you sell?

41 posted on 03/31/2012 1:56:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Nifster
"Since you will not accept arguments involving fundamental understanding of fusion (thosed nasty things like the Gamow Window) there is very little that anyone can offer such a high class scientist as yourself."

So. You're one of those idiots who think theory trumps experimental data. I suspected as much. The Gamow Window and any other theory fall before replicable experimental data. Apparently the "new breed" of physicist you represent has forgotten what Einstein, Feynmann, and countless others understood to be the fundamental basis for ALL science.

As I said "....mumble, mumble....Coulomb barrier.....mumble mumble....". Totally typical.

42 posted on 03/31/2012 5:49:21 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Lx
"We might as well leave Rossi out of the picture for now but I thought 400o to 450oC was the normal range for a steam turbine? If not, what is the lowest typical operating range for a steam turbine power plant?"

This is on the low end. Typical is ~420 to 650C. Of course, this is using water. There are other working fluids that can use lower temperatures. It's all a question of the minimum thermal efficiency you're willing to settle for.

"I don't know if I'm reading this correctly. You said it's similar to zirconium oxide -palladium or that is what they use? So, is it an electrolytic cell like P&F? If so, what is the availability of this element, zirconium oxide?

My bad. You're right. They are using an electrolysis cell. I knew they had used an e-cell for their phase 1 tests, but thought they had switched to gas loading for phase 2, but what they have actually done is to operate their e-cell at very high pressures (and thus higher temps). With all the successful replications showing up, sometimes it's hard to keep straight who used what approach.

43 posted on 03/31/2012 6:07:34 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Moonman62
"How many urinal cakes did you sell? "

Enough to buy myself a nice shiny R&D-100 Award plaque.

44 posted on 03/31/2012 6:10:15 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
Enough to buy myself a nice shiny R&D-100 Award plaque.

It's amazing what can be found in a pawn shop these days.

45 posted on 03/31/2012 6:31:39 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
And a typical change of subject whenever I ask one of those touting "hot fusion" WHY cold fusion "just can't happen" despite reams of data saying that it does.

There's also reams of data saying ghosts exist, yet the patent office won't look at applications for ghosts or cold fusion.

That excludes muon cold fusion which really does exist, yet hucksters like yourself never mention.

46 posted on 03/31/2012 6:36:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62; Nifster
"It's amazing what can be found in a pawn shop these days."

Yup, but I got mine direct from the source. The banquet at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago was a lot of fun.

"That excludes muon cold fusion which really does exist, yet hucksters like yourself never mention."

The only "hucksters" on this thread are you and Nifster, proclaiming that "non-muon" LANR doesn't exist because it contradicts existing theory. THAT is nothing more than pseudo-science. REAL science is about finding and explaining "anomalies" (as you are so fond of putting it) based on replicable experimental data. EVERY approach to cold fusion that I know of has been replicated...some of them multiple times. The Pons/Fleischmann electrochemical approach has been verified MANY times. Arata's gas-loaded approach has likewise been verified multiple times. And in many different variations (Piantelli, Ahearn, Miley, Celani, McKubre and more).

Heck, one NASA study replicated Palladium-deuterium gas loading excess heat with an off-the-shelf COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE DEVICE (palladium membrane hydrogen purifier) by Fralick, et al, at NASA's Glenn Research Center IN 1989!!. The experiment is so simple and direct that it is virtually impossible that it was "wrong" somehow.

And yet, that data was buried because of the fraudulent suppression of LANR by physicists incapable of doing electrochemistry correctly, and the continuing attacks on any funding and new research by certain parties like Parks and his coven.

47 posted on 04/01/2012 4:52:34 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Independent repeatability with an open flow of data is not what Rossi has provided. Nice try though.

Still waiting for the deliverables he promised for March 2012


48 posted on 04/01/2012 10:34:57 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Wonder Warthog

And by the by Feynman would have laughed at you... He is no doubt spinning in his grave


49 posted on 04/01/2012 10:36:04 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Wonder Warthog

“In 1928, George Gamow, the great Russian-American theoretical physicist, derived a quantum-mechanical formula that gave a non-zero probability of two charged particles overcoming their mutual electrostatic repulsion and coming very close together. This quantum mechanical probability is now universally known as the “Gamow factor.’’ It is widely used to explain the measured rates of certain radioactive decays.

In the decade that followed Gamow’s epochal work, Atkinson and Houtermans and later Gamow and Teller used the Gamow factor to derive the rate at which nuclear reactions would proceed at the high temperatures believed to exist in the interiors of stars. The Gamow factor was needed in order to estimate how often two nuclei with the same sign of electrical charge would get close enough together to fuse and thereby generate energy according to Einstein’s relation between excess mass and energy release.”

I quote this directly because apparently you are not familiar enough with fusion to know that Gamow’s work has been predictive over and over again. But hey don’t let facts bother you.


50 posted on 04/01/2012 11:55:38 PM PDT by Nifster
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