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Warm and fuzzy T. rex? New evidence surprises
Xfinity ^ | 04/04/2012 | Alicia Chang

Posted on 04/04/2012 12:03:18 PM PDT by SatinDoll

LOS ANGELES — The discovery of a giant meat-eating dinosaur sporting a downy coat has some scientists reimagining the look of Tyrannosaurus rex.

With a killer jaw and sharp claws, T. rex has long been depicted in movies and popular culture as having scaly skin. But the discovery of an earlier relative suggests the king of dinosaurs may have had a softer side.

The evidence comes from the unearthing of a new tyrannosaur species in northeastern China that lived 60 million years before T. rex. The fossil record preserved remains of fluffy down, making it the largest feathered dinosaur ever found.

If a T. rex relative had feathers, why not T. rex? Scientists said the evidence is trending in that direction.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Pets/Animals; Science
KEYWORDS: dinosaur; dinosaurs; godsgravesglyphs; paleontology; science; trex
Oh, my.

By the time I finished this article, I had visions of T-Rex looking like a giant chicken!

1 posted on 04/04/2012 12:03:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll
They were probably warm blooded imo. The environmental variables required to maintain a reptile always seemed too perfect. This was a huge animal.
2 posted on 04/04/2012 12:06:24 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SatinDoll; SunkenCiv

lol.


3 posted on 04/04/2012 12:11:25 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: SatinDoll
By the time I finished this article, I had visions of T-Rex looking like a giant chicken!

Well, it wasn't Chicken Little...

4 posted on 04/04/2012 12:13:52 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: allmost

Dinosaurs had to be warm blooded.

If they were cold-blooded, by the time they would have warmed up enough to become mobile, it would have been nightfall again.


5 posted on 04/04/2012 12:17:14 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SatinDoll

Chickasaurus, Found encrusted with eleven different substances as yet unidentfied. There may be a “kernal” of truth somewhere here, may be.


6 posted on 04/04/2012 12:19:51 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Jonty30

My thoughts as well.


7 posted on 04/04/2012 12:20:09 PM PDT by allmost
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To: allmost

There is a book that examines the possible origins of these creatures, it’s called Out of Thin Air - Dinosaurs, Birds, and Earth’s Ancient Atmosphere - by Peter D. Ward (2006; Joseph Henry Press).

Mr.Ward speculates on an oxygen crash as the cause of the Permian extinction and how dinosaurs had a respiratory system that differed from other creatures in that they could hoard oxygen in ‘bladders’ throughout their bodies.

Climbers on Mt.Everest have been surprised to discover upon reaching the summit, flocks of birds crossing over the mountain above them. Since the effort to fly uses huge amounts of oxygen, how can birds do that?

This book tries to answer the question.


8 posted on 04/04/2012 12:21:09 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

On the other hand; this could all be bull sperm..
People looking to get pregnant with a givernment GRANT..

I wanna know where the third human on this planet came from..
If NOT from TWO other ones.. THEN a bodacious Yarn must be constructed..

I tend to like the other Yarn... the one where there was a society before the Adam and Eve thingy..
A society with dinos and other creatures and then all those folks self destructed.. with the creatures..

THEN the Adam & Eve Story developed as a metaphor as a start for the current self-destruction going on..

Heck it s a free country (so far) I can choose my own bull sperm..


9 posted on 04/04/2012 12:22:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe
Who did the first speaker of Italian have to conserve with if everyone else on the peninsula spoke Latin?

When you realize why that isn't a good question you may realize why your own question has no basis in reality.

10 posted on 04/04/2012 12:26:43 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SatinDoll

11 posted on 04/04/2012 12:29:17 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: SatinDoll

Sort of a primordial Big Bird?


12 posted on 04/04/2012 12:34:18 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: SatinDoll
I'll have to find some cliff notes. I've flipped enough pages to circle the earth but everything’s online now. Got a link?
13 posted on 04/04/2012 12:34:46 PM PDT by allmost
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To: SatinDoll

14 posted on 04/04/2012 12:44:01 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: SatinDoll
By the time I finished this article, I had visions of T-Rex looking like a giant chicken!

The other white meat...

15 posted on 04/04/2012 12:54:42 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: SatinDoll
Yep.


16 posted on 04/04/2012 12:55:01 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1170 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: SatinDoll

17 posted on 04/04/2012 1:01:38 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: dirtboy

18 posted on 04/04/2012 1:04:51 PM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: allmendream

[ Who did the first speaker of Italian have to conserve with if everyone else on the peninsula spoke Latin? ]

Italian evolved.. as did English.. actually all languages evolve..

Latin is not spoken nor is Elizabethan English.. Norman.. Saxon.. Jute.. or Frisian..


19 posted on 04/04/2012 1:07:30 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: SatinDoll
Well, that's largely because T-Rex was what amounts to a giant carnivorous flightless bird sporting jaws big enough to swallow a man whole lined with six inch long razor sharp teeth. The hip structure, bi-pedalism, and size all scream warm blooded giant bird but, as is usual, once scientists get hold of and build their careers and tenure on a theory they will defend it to the death. That all the great dinosaurs were cold blooded reptiles, like basking crocodiles, is an archaic notion along the same lines as all the oil and natural gas beneath our feet is derived from fossilized flora and fauna and is therefore in severely limited supply.

The scientific community is like a priesthood, with all the stubborn orthodoxy and accusations of heresy when someone has the balls to think and argue differently that characterize that culture.

20 posted on 04/04/2012 1:29:33 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: BigEdLB

Robert Bakiker, the paleontologist once described T-Rex as a “40 ton Roadrunner from Hell”. Looks like he was right.


21 posted on 04/04/2012 1:49:11 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

“Bakiker” = “Bakker”.


22 posted on 04/04/2012 1:50:33 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SatinDoll

23 posted on 04/04/2012 1:52:34 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: hosepipe

Populations evolve in their DNA much as the language of a human population evolves.

Small changes accumulate in separate populations until there is no longer a free exchange of information.

It is not a case where there would be a “human” born to a “nonhuman” that is suddenly looking for another “human” to mate with - any more that it would be the case that an “Italian” speaker would be born from a “Latin” speaker and would be looking for someone who understands him or her.

Small changes accumulating over time.


24 posted on 04/04/2012 1:58:16 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SatinDoll

The evolutionists have it all figured out!


25 posted on 04/04/2012 2:25:21 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!-Sam Adams)
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To: hosepipe
In ancient Italy many languages were spoken, including Etruscan, Latin, Greek, Oscan, and others. Eventually most of them gave way to Latin but there were probably always some areas where Greek continued to be spoken. There are a few places where Greek is still spoken in Italy. In the Middle Ages Latin developed into a lot of different dialects.

Modern Italian is based on the dialect of Tuscany but some dialects are so different they can be regarded as separate languages.

The language of Sardinia is considered a separate Romance language. Some consider Sicilian to be a different language. Up in the extreme NE part of Italy there is an area where Friulian is spoken, which is generally considered a separate Romance language.

Besides that, there are a few places where Albanian or Croatian is spoken (their ancestors were refugees from the Turks), and in the far north there is an area where German is spoken (the South Tyrol). There are some places near Trieste where Slovenian is spoken. I think there are places near the French border where French is spoken.

Supposedly less than 50% of the population of Italy speaks standard Italian at home.

26 posted on 04/04/2012 3:05:24 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

interesting....


27 posted on 04/04/2012 3:44:27 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: GeronL; Renfield; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks GeronL for the ping, and thanks Renfield for the link in FReepmail as well as the other topic.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 12:24:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SatinDoll

“By the time I finished this article, I had visions of T-Rex looking like a giant chicken”

Which is probably the case, and which is exactly why I no longer love dinosaurs the way I did when I was a kid. Giant reptilian monsters roaming the Earth? Cool! Giant chickens? I guess I’ll take up astronomy instead, now.


29 posted on 04/06/2012 12:59:54 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: SatinDoll

Anyone that has raised Muscovy ducks knows that the T. rex had to have friendly relatives.

I do wish we could bring back the dinosaurs. We could train them to hunt down and ... deal with the democrats..... and can you just imagine how large a bbq could be!!


30 posted on 04/06/2012 1:34:42 PM PDT by Gator113 (** President Newt Gingrich-"Our beloved republic deserves nothing less." ~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

ROFL!


31 posted on 04/06/2012 1:54:43 PM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: SatinDoll

Problem with speculating about feathered dinosaurs is that where are the feathers?

We are all familiar with how soft the tip of a feather is, no one would expect that to fossilize all that well.

But the quill part of a feather is a HARD substance. I think chemically, it’s got a lot in common with stuff like fingernails.

If there were big dinos with big feathers who were fighting and ripping each other apart, we should reasonably expect to find bushels of fossilized feathers - dump trucks full!!

Plus, over the course of their lifetimes, they would shed them, so we should find way more fossilized feathers than fully intact, articulated skeletons.


32 posted on 04/06/2012 1:57:50 PM PDT by djf (Obama - the "OJ verdict" of presidents!!)
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To: djf

You make a good point, though I’m not as certatin as you that feathers would fossilize. Impressions of the feathers have been found, however.

Keratin, the substance that makes up feathers, fingernails and hair, seems to fossilize if it is sizable. Neither feathers or hair are ‘chunky’ like the claws of large dinosaurs which do fossilize.

Also, and this is germaine to your position, dinosaurs died out a long, long time ago. The amount of fossilized remains is actually quite limited; in fact, a ‘complete’ fossilized skeleton of a T-rex has never been found - something is always missing! Thus finding fossilized feathers may be impossible due to the fagility of the item and the length of time that has passed.


33 posted on 04/06/2012 2:49:22 PM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: SatinDoll

Maybe we will never know for sure.

But I know they have found fossilized flowers, so I would think a feather would be quite possible.


34 posted on 04/06/2012 2:56:40 PM PDT by djf (Obama - the "OJ verdict" of presidents!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanks for the ping.

Breast of T-Rex would be a great meal,...

35 posted on 04/06/2012 5:11:34 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

or rack of Rex, would probably need a big heavy table though. And a lot of those little potatoes.


36 posted on 04/06/2012 10:01:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SatinDoll
The discovery of a giant meat-eating dinosaur sporting a downy coat has some scientists reimagining the look of Tyrannosaurus rex.
I don't care if they used fabric softer for their baby T-Rex's diapers. Those HUGH teeth weren't for cracking Walnuts.

Someone should remind these geniuses that a Kodiak Bear, aka: Alaskan grizzly bear, has nice soft and cuddly fur too. And you don't want run into one in the woods unless you have the biggest dang gun you can shoot.

37 posted on 04/07/2012 4:05:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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-additional-

Dressed to kill: A feathered tyrannosaur is discovered in China
Christian Science Monitor | 4-4-2012 | Pete Spotts
Posted on 04/05/2012 4:39:12 AM PDT by Renfield
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2868397/posts


38 posted on 04/13/2012 10:39:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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