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Payoff from efficient cars can take years (27 years for a Chevy Volt)
The Bulletin ^ | 4/5/2012 | Nick Bunkley / New York Times

Posted on 04/05/2012 3:44:49 PM PDT by tobyhill

Ed Moran’s new Toyota Prius was programmed by the dealer to make him feel good about his gas savings. A dashboard display compares the fuel consumption of the Prius and his 2001 Ford pickup truck.

“Every time I go to the store it will tell me how much money I saved,” said Moran, a horticulturist in Ames, Iowa.

Like more and more Americans, Moran is looking to a fuel-efficient car to help soften the financial blow of ever higher gas prices. Shoppers have more options than ever to fight back, including hybrids, plug-ins, electric vehicles and “eco” or “super fuel economy” packages.

But opting for models that promise better mileage through new technologies does not necessarily save money, according to data compiled for The New York Times by the automotive research website TrueCar.com.

Except for two hybrids, the Prius and Lincoln MKZ, and the diesel-powered Volkswagen Jetta TDI, the added cost of the fuel-efficient technologies is so high that it would take the average driver many years — in some cases more than a decade — to save money over comparable new models with conventional internal-combustion engines.

That is true at today’s pump prices, around $4, and also if gas were to climb to $5 a gallon, the data show. Gas would have to approach $8 a gallon before many of the cars could be expected to pay off in the six years an average person owns a car.

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1 posted on 04/05/2012 3:44:53 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

What is the resale value on these hybrids and pure electric vehicles as the warranty on their batteries expires?


2 posted on 04/05/2012 3:58:28 PM PDT by yadent
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To: tobyhill

Don’t worry: Mr. Obama is working on that $8/gallon thing.


3 posted on 04/05/2012 3:59:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ich habe keinen Konig aber Gott)
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To: yadent
What is the resale value on these hybrids and pure electric vehicles as the warranty on their batteries expires?

About the cost of a really big brick...

4 posted on 04/05/2012 4:00:51 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romney - Santorum: Twin Sons of Different Mothers...)
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To: tobyhill

Does that count the cost of replacing the burnt down garage. Does any GM product run 27 years - I don’t see many ‘85 Chevy Citations on the road.


5 posted on 04/05/2012 4:05:20 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: tobyhill

26-27 years is how long I’ve had my Nissan Pickup but I wouldn’t count on the Volt lasting that long (batteries, for damn sure). First actual failure I’ve had on the Nissan is the water pump (just replacing today).


6 posted on 04/05/2012 4:06:33 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: DaveyB
Does any GM product run 27 years...

Sure, if it was built before 1971 or so.

7 posted on 04/05/2012 4:10:46 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: tobyhill

VW Jetta is not an exception. I ran the numbers and came up with 250,000 miles to break even on a diesel Jetta vs. a gas Jetta.


8 posted on 04/05/2012 4:16:15 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: tobyhill

HA!HA! Take that GHWB you Globalist Buffoon!


9 posted on 04/05/2012 4:19:12 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: tobyhill
just bought a fairly loaded 2012 Elantra for $17700 as work car and it gets ~40mpg on regular gas with no turbo...

i can now drive to work and back on a gallon of gas

10 posted on 04/05/2012 4:28:04 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: yadent
What is the resale value on these hybrids and pure electric vehicles as the warranty on their batteries expires?

I'll let you know in March 2013 when the odometer reaches 100k miles, the 10-year Drivetrain/battery warranty.

Wait. Never mind. I have no plans to sell it.

11 posted on 04/05/2012 4:51:47 PM PDT by Publius6961 (A)
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To: tobyhill

Whomever owns the vehicle after ten years would have to replace the batteries at great expense.


12 posted on 04/05/2012 5:41:38 PM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: jjotto
VW Jetta is not an exception. I ran the numbers and came up with 250,000 miles to break even on a diesel Jetta vs. a gas Jetta.

That's about the average life span of TDI. Not hard to imagine at all.

13 posted on 04/05/2012 6:56:56 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: tobyhill

Remember that the true payoff is in knowing that you’ve done your part to save the planet.....


14 posted on 04/05/2012 7:54:17 PM PDT by mikrofon (Gaia will cherish your remains interred in Her forever ...)
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To: Charles Martel

“Does any GM product run 27 years...”

I plan to keep my two Chevy Geo’s (Suzuki) sold by GM running until I can’t drive anymore. My 93 XFI gets 60 mpg hwy. My 92 Geo 5-door gets 50 hwy. (Of course, they’re only 19 and 20 years old and GM didn’t make them.)


15 posted on 04/05/2012 8:24:13 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: Publius6961

Well, keep me informed when it reaches the 300,000 mile mark if you still own it. I would love to compare notes with my 2000 Jetta TDI. Be safe out there!


16 posted on 04/05/2012 11:23:38 PM PDT by yadent
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