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Krugman: Not enough inflation.
NY Slimes ^ | 4/6/2012 | Paul Krugman

Posted on 04/06/2012 5:23:01 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote

No, the real reason the attacks on Mr. Bernanke from the right are so destructive is that they’re an effort to bully the Fed into doing exactly the wrong thing. The attackers want the Fed to slam on the brakes when it should be stepping on the gas; they want the Fed to choke off recovery when it should be doing much more to accelerate recovery. Fundamentally, the right wants the Fed to obsess over inflation, when the truth is that we’d be better off if the Fed paid less attention to inflation and more attention to unemployment. Indeed, a bit more inflation would be a good thing, not a bad thing.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: economy; fed; inflation; krugman; obamanomics; recovery; thefed; unemployment
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1 posted on 04/06/2012 5:23:03 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

The Fed is supposed to ensure the integrity of the money supply, not tweak the economy to provide employment or whatever else the politicians think is important.


2 posted on 04/06/2012 5:27:39 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

If government spending more money (they don’t have) will fix everything, how does one explain Greece?

Idiots like Krugman and those who think like him are why fiat currencies are so dangerous.


3 posted on 04/06/2012 5:27:41 AM PDT by IamConservative (Shall I try and perhaps fail or shall I do nothing without fail?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

We have plenty of inflation. It’s just not reported.


4 posted on 04/06/2012 5:29:59 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: cicero2k

The ex-enron advisor Krugman is such a joke. I often mock the leftists who support him on my facebook page. He is a pathetic shill and a lying fraud.


5 posted on 04/06/2012 5:31:40 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: cicero2k

Exactly...inflation is terrible. Mr. Krugman thinks there should be more because he is not affected by it...he is rich and can afford anything he wants. For the middle class Obama’s inflation is killing us.

It is not uncommon for a family of four to drop $250 shopping for two weeks worth of groceries. To Krugman and the media elite this is nothing. They also have no problem with $100 gas fill-ups. To us it’s crushing.

Of course the media will not report this...it would finish Obama.


6 posted on 04/06/2012 5:33:34 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: IamConservative

“Idiots like Krugman and those who think like him are why fiat currencies are so dangerous.”

Mr. Krugman is a brilliant, really-really smart, intensely intelligent, Progressive genius whose judgement sails over the heads of all those red-necked, knuckle-dragging, gun-loving, bible-thumping morons in flyover country. He knows everything about everything and is superior in every way.

/SARCASM/


7 posted on 04/06/2012 5:38:14 AM PDT by ripley
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To: kjo

I am almost done ridding my life of all the leftists, i have a few to go.

anyone still supporting this craziness is a traitor.


8 posted on 04/06/2012 5:38:44 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: kjo

You know how after an editorialist writes a story they give a brief bio of the writer? I think for Krugman it would be:

Paul Krugman is a Princeton trained, Nobel winning Keynesian economist who theories and opinions on the American economic system has been wrong for more than 20 years.


9 posted on 04/06/2012 5:39:24 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“Krugman: Not enough inflation.”

Krugman: Not enough Cowbell.

There, fixed it.


10 posted on 04/06/2012 5:41:38 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Paul: You're an idiot.

The Fed is caught in a classic Liquidity Trap position which makes monetary policy virtually ineffective. Fiscal policy is the answer, but not the one most politicians like. Right now, tax cuts are the answer, both in personal and corporate taxes. Indeed, cuts in spending are not "lost dollars" as politicians would like us to believe. All it means is that private consumers have more dollars to direct to what they want, not what some bureaucrat thinks we want. My suggestions: Cut personal income taxes to a flat rate of 17%, cut corporate to 15%, and have Obozo issue an Executive Order stating that: ANWR is open for bid, ALL offshore leases are open for bid, Keystone is a done deal, the EPA is closed, and all federal permitting processes will be done in less than three months. Then stand back and watch how fast this economy heals itself.

11 posted on 04/06/2012 5:43:35 AM PDT by econjack
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To: GlockThe Vote
Looks like Kruggie wrote today's column instead of his wife. OF course he wants inflation, he's alluded to it before -- despite the unbelievable harm it would cause, it's their only possible way out of Bobo's Depression.

Of course they could cut taxes, cut spending, but that's not their way.

12 posted on 04/06/2012 5:46:15 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Inflation is a fake solution designed to make it appear that the economy is growing while it robs thrifty people of their savings. I have a theory that there are three phases of government finance. In the first phase, government finances its operations by taxing the present. When it has exhausted all current taxing options, it turns to taxing the future by borrowing. When it runs out of borrowing options, it taxes the past by inflating its currency. After that, collapse, I am afraid. (If the government refuses to modify its out of control spending practices).


13 posted on 04/06/2012 5:47:05 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: GlockThe Vote

‘Fed paid less attention to inflation and more attention to unemployment’-—————

I thought that was Obama’s ‘the buck stops here, job.


14 posted on 04/06/2012 5:49:14 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: GlockThe Vote

"There is no means of avoiding a final collapse of a boom brought about by credit expansion. The alternative is only whether the crisis should come sooner as the result of voluntary abandonment of further credit expansion, or later as the final and total catastrophe of the currency involved."

Ludwig von Mises

15 posted on 04/06/2012 5:51:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Thanks for the laugh!!


16 posted on 04/06/2012 5:52:39 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: GlockThe Vote

Yeah, that’s the ticket. More inflation that the government won’t officially recognize. I am so tired hearing that the inflation is like 2% when food and gas and other energy is clearly double digits.


17 posted on 04/06/2012 5:55:34 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: GlockThe Vote

Krugman channeling William Jennings Bryant.


18 posted on 04/06/2012 6:02:19 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Truth29

I left a few comments at the site.

Krugman is a joke.


19 posted on 04/06/2012 6:09:23 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Inflation is embezzlement and redistribution of wealth by deliberate dilution, just as when a bartender steals from the customer by diluting the drinks.

The wealth flows to the party issuing the freshly-printed money. It comes from those who hold wealth in the form of the currency they hold, in proportion to the amount of currency.

But this is not the end of the damage. When government issues money that cost it almost nothing to create, it is willing to bid any amount of it to buy the things it wants and to pay the people it wants to pay off. This naturally bids up the money price of wages and goods. The real wealth creators become second in line for the bidding.

Further, the flood of money depresses the time value of money. This forces those who are willing to lend their money to others to accept a lower rate of interest. This has the effect of denying them the interest income they would otherwise earn. People who are retired and living off their interest income no longer can and must start consuming their capital in order to pay their bills. The only way they can make the same interest income is to accept investments in instruments that carry far higher levels of risk.

Worse, as economist Roger Garrison shows in his wonderful book, Time and Money, suppressing the market price of the time value of money triggers errors in decision-making with regards to the apparent present value of long term projects. This causes people and companies to think that a project is affordable and sustainable when in fact it will not be once interest rates return to a value set by a free market. There are all manner of balance sheet distortions that occur under GAAP and FASB because the time value of money is just a false value. This destroys the truth of many price signals, and that error cascades through all investment decisions.

A simple example of this is when mortgage rates were way too low for high risk borrowers, like those with no income, no job and no assets. They were granted loans they would otherwise been denied and with that money they bid up the price of housing. Many people bought a bigger house or paid far more then they otherwise would have, and as a result we had a housing bubble we are still trying to recover from.

Lastly, the central bank will eventually get exhausted from its money printing and rational prices for everything will return. The consequences will not be pleasant to deal with. and people like Krugman will be clueless as to why their money-printing did not equate to wealth-printing.


20 posted on 04/06/2012 6:23:12 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: GlockThe Vote
Krugman is right but for the exact wrong reasons:

1) The push by conservatives to "stop printing" would be doing the exact wrong thing. Not because of job growth but because monetary velocity indicators still tell us there is not enough liquidity in the system. Look at the St. Louis Fed's chart here:

Velocity is significantly below where it was pre-crisis. M2 velocity is at an all time low. Until this starts turning upward the fed needs to keep supplying liquidity as demand for said liquidity is incredibly high.

2) The Fed needs to provide the "right" amount of liquidity to meet demand. Oversupply and not draining liquidity fast enough when demand is equalized could cause large inflation spikes which is incredibly detrimental to the economy and jobs (although not nearly as detrimental as a deflationary death spiral).

3) The Fed's ONLY goal should be price stability. The goal of full employment is far beyond the Fed's ability to manage simply through monetary policy.

21 posted on 04/06/2012 6:28:09 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: theBuckwheat

Krugman, Obama, Paulson, Bush, Geithner, Bernake, are all well paid liars.


22 posted on 04/06/2012 6:28:19 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: kjo
It is not uncommon for a family of four to drop $250 shopping for two weeks worth of groceries. To Krugman and the media elite this is nothing. They also have no problem with $100 gas fill-ups. To us it’s crushing.

Silly fool (j/k)! Food and energy prices aren't included because they're so volatile, and they never seem to go down.

23 posted on 04/06/2012 6:28:37 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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To: fhayek
Inflation is a fake solution designed to make it appear that the economy is growing while it robs thrifty people of their savings.

This is true, and I disagree with Klugman. However, I can understand the thought process of inflation being good with regard to the housing market. If inflation were to increase, the under water mortgages get turned right side up in a shorter period of time, ultimately creating "equity". Whether solving the housing/mortgage issues result in a benefit to the economy is a whole other discussion.

24 posted on 04/06/2012 6:34:37 AM PDT by Go Gordon (President Poverty - President Downgrade - President Food Stamp - President Pantywaist - B. H. Obama)
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To: econjack
All good advise. I have owned a business for over a quarter of a century, prior to that I served as an operations manager for both a defense contractor, and later a fortune 500 marketing firm.
Here's my take on it:
If a company of any sort runs out of money, sales, credit, and ideas; the company goes out of business.
The only way to survive under tight circumstances is to tighten the belt. You close profit centers that are not turning a profit, you lay off as many as possible and sell assets, while looking into avenues of diversification.
If you do nothing different then the company closes, if you take action, you might be able to make a comeback.
There are many examples of comebacks such as Apple.
The US Government is bankrupt. Credit ratings are down while expenses are going up.
If you want to save the ship, then you must start throwing things overboard and quickly.
Start with layoffs.
If the FAA were to close it's doors for a full year how many flights would be canceled? None.
If the FCC were to shut down for a year how many stations would shut down? None.
If the Board of Education were to shut down, how many schools would shut down. None.
If the EPA were to shut down, how many more polar bears would die? None.
I could go through the entire bureaucracy, and save for the military, they produce absolutely nothing.
Now state level is entirely different, but as for Federal entities, they not only have zero value, they have negative value.
Shut them all down for at least one full year. Stop all taxes for one full year and the economy will take off faster than a dress on prom night.
25 posted on 04/06/2012 6:35:07 AM PDT by RavenLooneyToon (Tail gunner Joe was right.)
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To: fhayek
Inflation is a fake solution designed to make it appear that the economy is growing while it robs thrifty people of their savings.

This is true, and I disagree with Klugman. However, I can understand the thought process of inflation being good with regard to the housing market. If inflation were to increase, the under water mortgages get turned right side up in a shorter period of time, ultimately creating "equity". Whether solving the housing/mortgage issues result in a benefit to the economy is a whole other discussion.

26 posted on 04/06/2012 6:36:43 AM PDT by Go Gordon (President Poverty - President Downgrade - President Food Stamp - President Pantywaist - B. H. Obama)
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To: cicero2k
We have plenty of inflation. It’s just not reported deliberately miss-reported. FIXED
27 posted on 04/06/2012 7:03:32 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: GlockThe Vote

When I got folks as dumb as Krugman in my physics/math classes, I asked them when they were changing their major to business.

The fact that this loon got a Nobel prize in economics proves that a Nobel in anything except physics or medicine is worth about as much as either of Obama’s two fake birth certificates.


28 posted on 04/06/2012 7:08:01 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Go Gordon

The problem with the underwater mortgages et al is no amount of fiddling with numbers will create actual VALUE in that market (short of natural growth). You can shove value around, and force some people to eat their losses (which is probably the fastest way to fix the problem, albeit the cruelest), but not until real demand catches up with real supply will the real value of homes rise to refill the equity shortfall.

Increasing inflation just moves the market’s lack of value from homeowners to banks. The problem remains, and the consequences are merely rearranged. To wit: if I borrow $100K from you, and before repayment the dollar is devalued 90%, the $100K I give back to you amounts to $10K pre-inflation buying value - a deal you would _never_ have agreed to if you knew about the coming inflation.

(at this point I’m pretty much just thinking out loud)

Properly handled, inflation balances the value of currency units against growth of wealth & population. The goal is to keep a dollar worth “a dollar” despite population & GDP doubling, and the _appearance_ of inflation is 0%. A slightly positive inflation rate encourages people to keep that money moving, preferring to acquire goods/services rather than sit on zero-velocity “mattress savings”. Negative inflation, deflation, discourages economic activity because the currency increases in relative value by just holding onto it. Seriously positive inflation cheats lenders: as inflation rate increases above existing loan rates, lenders lose money (that includes you investing in CDs, bonds, or other fixed long-term holdings) ... and that’s what you’re proposing to do by increasing inflation to “help” mortgage borrowers - helping them by cheating the lenders by devaluing what is owed.

(blather off)


29 posted on 04/06/2012 7:09:26 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Da Coyote

...or the Obama’s Nobel prize.


30 posted on 04/06/2012 7:10:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Krugman is advancing the old Keynesian economic argument that there is an inverse relationship between inflation and unemployment (Phillips Curve) so a “little” inflation would lower unemployment. However, this theory was proven dead wrong during the Carter administration when inflation causing stimulus was applied to stagflation...where unemployment and inflation were rising simultaneously. This produced an inflationary spiral that boosted interest rates into the double digits. I bought my first home in 1979 with a 30 mortgage rate of 11.25% and within 6 months mortgage rates were in the 18% range. Interest rates like that would be a death knell for the whole housing industry in this economy.


31 posted on 04/06/2012 7:12:44 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Krugman you ignorant Fluke!

Just because you don't know history, doesn't mean we all don't!

32 posted on 04/06/2012 7:21:45 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: GlockThe Vote

So a 4 billion dollar a day deficit isn’t good enough?


33 posted on 04/06/2012 7:26:20 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Who has done more damage to humanity; Hitler or Keynes? Freepers I want a 3 page single space position paper by next wednesday.


34 posted on 04/06/2012 7:29:39 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Vet the media:

Krugman, Paul

35 posted on 04/06/2012 11:07:13 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: Col Freeper

WOW!!!! That is great. I see an idea coming on.

Posters of this all over the place. Every week preview one on YouTube. Quick 1 minute profiles.

Honestly, I would go McCarthy on all of these people. And when they start bitching and whining about the treatment, we just use the economy, healthcare, financial crisis, lack of jobs, union corruption and a big picture of Greece as our backdrop.

Run it all summer long. Give it a catchy name like “The Second American Revolution.”


36 posted on 04/06/2012 12:06:33 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch
Never too old to learn something, I'll bite; what is the definition of "monetary velocity"?

Regards,
GtG

37 posted on 04/06/2012 2:28:53 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

In simple terms its the turnover of a dollar in the economy. The speed in which a dollar changes hands via transactions. The higher the velocity the greater number of transactions. If demand is very high for money then people hold on to the cash and velocity decreases. When the banks stop sitting on their hordes of cash and start lending at higher rates velocity should increase rapidly.


38 posted on 04/06/2012 4:37:31 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

In simple terms its the turnover of a dollar in the economy. The speed in which a dollar changes hands via transactions. The higher the velocity the greater number of transactions. If demand is very high for money then people hold on to the cash and velocity decreases. When the banks stop sitting on their hordes of cash and start lending at higher rates velocity should increase rapidly.


39 posted on 04/06/2012 4:37:41 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Thanks EAB.

I've been searching the dark alleyways and basements of the InnerToobs, and I came across some files. Here's one for example.

LOL, according to this file, it doesn't appear that the "exalted future position" that this Comrade expects from his "leaders" will be what he thinks it is going to be.

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Become familiar with Fifth Columnists in America:

Krugman, Paul

Fifth Columnists: A group of people who act traitorously and subversively out of a secret sympathy with an enemy of their country. Originally refers to Franco sympathizers in Madrid during the Spanish Civil War: so called in allusion to a statement in 1936 that the insurgents had four columns marching on Madrid and a fifth column of sympathizers in the city ready to rise and betray it.

USEFUL IDIOTS: Sympathizers, Apologists, and Propagandists for the implementation of Socialism/Communism into Western Countries like the United States, who are actually held in contempt and are being cynically used by Socialist/Communist Leaders.

Running Dogs: A manipulable, servile follower who is a lackey for those who are trying to implement Socialism/Communism into Western Countries like the United States.

40 posted on 04/08/2012 9:42:19 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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