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SIMMONS: Bill Cosby weighs in on Trayvon Martin case
The Washington Times ^ | April 7, 2012 | Deborah Simmons

Posted on 04/07/2012 12:30:01 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

“The gun.”

Those two simple words flowed easily from the mouth of social commentator Bill Cosby during an exclusive interview Friday regarding the Trayvon Martin case, arguably the most high-profile, citizen-on-citizen U.S. slaying facing the Obama administration.

Trayvon was killed Feb. 26 in Sanford, Fla., by neighborhood watchman George Zimmerman, who told police that a “confrontation” with the unarmed 17-year-old led him to shoot in self-defense.

Mr. Cosby, a Navy veteran, said “the gun” empowered Mr. Zimmerman, whose actions have stirred a firestorm of debate, protests and remarks from President Obama.

“We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch,” said Mr. Cosby, whose remarks were the first he has made publicly about the case.

“Without a gun, I don’t see Mr. Zimmerman approaching Trayvon by himself,” Mr. Cosby explained. “The power-of-the-gun mentality had him unafraid to confront someone. Even police call for backup in similar situations.

“When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,” he said.

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1 posted on 04/07/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I used to respect you Bill.


2 posted on 04/07/2012 12:33:17 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When I carry my firearm ,I mean to defend myself or my family against criminal types. What part of that doesn’t Mr. Cosby understand?


3 posted on 04/07/2012 12:33:38 PM PDT by Yorktownpatriot (2nd American revolution.. let it start here!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
I have great respect for Mr. Cosby and his Sisyphean attempt to bring honor and self-respect to the Black Community, but he can't help but be a liberal. When he says

“We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch,”

He means:

“We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch,

4 posted on 04/07/2012 12:33:55 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bill’s been eating to many pudding pops.
His brain has turned to pudding.


5 posted on 04/07/2012 12:34:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,” he said.

__________

I liked bill. Until now. Now he is calling me a killer without even meeting me. Next, I'll be a racist for disagreeing with him.

6 posted on 04/07/2012 12:34:58 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If the gangster culture didn’t create pot smoking, petty thief, racist, violent, angry young men, people wouldn’t need neighborhood watches or guns to protect themselves.


7 posted on 04/07/2012 12:35:04 PM PDT by ImProudToBeAnAmerican
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Well, now we know that Bill is one of Eric Holder's people.

Eric Holder's people love gun control because they consider violent crime to be a legitimate career path, and armed victims to be an OSHA violation.

8 posted on 04/07/2012 12:35:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody

Yes it is called personal defense. Hoods are afraid of someone with a gun, willing to harm someone who would hurt or rob them.

9 posted on 04/07/2012 12:36:51 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Talk to the hoodie/street gang members first Bill.


10 posted on 04/07/2012 12:37:11 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,” he said.

I wonder if he was thinking of his son when he said this?

11 posted on 04/07/2012 12:37:20 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("For the sake of our party we must stand united, whoever our nominee is."-Sarah Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“Without a gun, I don’t see Mr. Zimmerman approaching Trayvon by himself,” Mr. Cosby explained. “The power-of-the-gun mentality had him unafraid to confront someone. Even police call for backup in similar situations.

This is the strongest argument by the liberals to date. The solution would be not to remove the weapons from the community but rather to be sure that anyone like Zimmerman is not alone.

12 posted on 04/07/2012 12:38:56 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“The power-of-the-gun mentality had him unafraid to confront someone. Even police call for backup in similar situations. “When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,”

I am greatly disappointed with Cosby. Perhaps he's getting senial. First, Zimmerman did call for backup, hence the 911 call. Second, it was Martin who confronted Zimmerman which was confirmed in the 911 call and an eye witness. Third, people carry to protect themselves from being killed by hoodie-wearing punks. Fourth, we've yet to see who's finger print was on the trigger.

13 posted on 04/07/2012 12:39:01 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bill, so what do you think “empowered” Trayvon to walk up to someone and ask if they had a problem and say they had one now and start beating him? Trayvon didn’t have a gun, nor did he know Zimmerman had one.

Sorry Bill but “the gun” did not make Zimmerman do it, Trayvon did.


14 posted on 04/07/2012 12:39:44 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
” 'We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch’ to protect thugs and keep the ignorant and racist from rioting because they want to.”
15 posted on 04/07/2012 12:39:57 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,” he said.

I've been carrying a gun for 40 years and haven't killed anyone yet.........but then again nobody has trying to kill me yet!

16 posted on 04/07/2012 12:40:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Ennis William “The Music” Cosby (April 15, 1969 – January 16, 1997) was the son of comedian-actor Bill Cosby and Camille Cosby. He was murdered in 1997 by Mikhail Markhasev, on Skirball Center Drive, an access road of Los Angeles’ 405 Freeway.


17 posted on 04/07/2012 12:40:12 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mr. Cosby went on to say, the only good white-hispanic, is a dead white-hispanic, or at least a brain damaged one.


18 posted on 04/07/2012 12:40:43 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody

Yes, you damn fool. What in the hell do you think the gun is for. Ever heard of self defense. Cosby, you are a real fool. If you do nothing wrong, and in the hands of real Americans, you will not get hurt. Throw a punch and bang a persons head on the ground, your ass should get shot.

19 posted on 04/07/2012 12:41:39 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Meanwhile, the rappers that glorify that garbage are now part of the 1 percent and away from the cesspool they took advantage of to get where they are today. And if they ever do come off their high horses, it’s only to make things worse instead of better.


20 posted on 04/07/2012 12:42:33 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Swill Crosby

Dine on bung, lib.

21 posted on 04/07/2012 12:45:35 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: mylife
I used to respect you Bill.

When, in the 50's? Cosby has been a racist for a looooooooong time. When he used to sub for Carson on the Tonight show while Johnny was on one of his miriad vacations in the 60's, all the guests and the whole band would be black. Did you ever see a white male portrayed as anything but a criminal or an idiot on the Cosby Show?

22 posted on 04/07/2012 12:45:58 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: freedumb2003
And what will happen...
We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of INNOCENT people
How dare they think they have the right to protect themselves!

/s

23 posted on 04/07/2012 12:48:34 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But what if the sidearm was not pulled out until AFTER Trayvon Martin had George Zimmerman down on his back on the ground and was getting punched in the face?

It is not like Zimmerman was carrying the weapon, cocked and loaded, at the ready while stalking Martin.

AS far as “fearless” went, Martin was being a lot more “fearless” than Zimmerman, who was returning to his vehicle while trying to spot Martin, apparently skulking somewhere behind Zimmerman.


24 posted on 04/07/2012 12:48:49 PM PDT by alloysteel (It is hard to get a man to understand, when his pay depends upon his not understanding something.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I was never a fan of Cosby as a person tho I did think he had some good stand-up comedian stories.

I also liked the “Fat Albert” shows.

Never cared for “The Cosby Show”.


25 posted on 04/07/2012 12:49:15 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: mylife
Now that Bill Cosby has spoken, I want to hear comments from Carrot Top and Galligher. After all, if one comedian can express his opinion on this topic, why shouldn't others?
26 posted on 04/07/2012 12:49:20 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“Without a gun, I don’t see Mr. Zimmerman approaching Trayvon by himself,” Mr. Cosby explained.

Zimmerman didn't approach Martin. For a while he followed and watched him. Martin later approached Zimmerman.

27 posted on 04/07/2012 12:50:19 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

If the parent or ....wait that is part of the problem. THE PARENT and not BOTH parents due to divorce or simply not getting married and having a bastard child had educated the kid with some manners we would never hear about gangs and gang bangers. Its time the parents are questioned about how this kid was raised. I do not know if this individual kid was a bastard child but in either case the PARENTS need to be investigated on how they raised him.


28 posted on 04/07/2012 12:51:54 PM PDT by Plumberman27
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Don’t lose sight of the fact that Bill Cosby’s son was shot to death during a carjacking. He’s most likely thinking from that perspective. And he has a point that perhaps Mr. Zimmerman acted in ways an unarmed person would not have that evening. We’ll find out soon enough when the investigation is concluded.


29 posted on 04/07/2012 12:52:40 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Cosby should be smarter than to be so easily taken in with the left’s fake narrative. I’m embarrassed for him.


30 posted on 04/07/2012 12:54:06 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Let’s not be too quick on condemning what Cos is saying ... he’s not calling for a gun ban, just having the wannabe cops pull back a tad. To the extent that the Watch and VCOP programs are riddled with them, I can’t say I disagree. And I’ll bet that as a result of the Martin case and the law suits that will ensue, Neighborhood Watches nation-wide will do exactly what Cos is saying. But make it a rule promulgated by the groups themselves, not by the gubermint.


31 posted on 04/07/2012 12:57:08 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Steyn: "If Greece has been knocking back the ouzo, we're face down in the vat.")
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To: GreatOne

An armed person does act a bit differently.

With me and I have learned, with others one tends to be much more polite because an armed individual doesn’t want to get involved in a situation where he has to use the weapon.

He also is more confident because he knows he can more likely take care of a really bad situation.

Now for thugs, it might be a different story but they would not obey any laws affecting carrying or using arms.


32 posted on 04/07/2012 12:57:45 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“We’ve got to get the gun out of the hands of people who are supposed to be on neighborhood watch,” said Mr. Cosby

Leave me and mine the hell alone, Cosby. If you want to take my gun, COME AND GET IT yourself.

Remember, Neighborhood Watch is a Federal program, and is NOT YOUR FRIEND. If you are forming a neighborhood defense group, do NOT call it Neighborhood Watch.

33 posted on 04/07/2012 12:58:20 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Yes, Mr. Crosby, a gun does empower you. So keep that in mind when some stalker breaks into your house or accosts your family.

No, Mr. Crosby, a gun does encourage legitimate "neighborhood watch" citizens to lose control and fire at will, as you imply.

Facts, Mr. Crosby:
1. Most blacks are killed by other blacks who have illegal weapons. Mr. Zimmerman had a legally owned weapon;
2. As you have admitted, most black youths are killed by their own black peers:
3. You'll wish you had a Remington 870 12guage shotgun if someone were heading towards your loved ones. But then you have security, don't you?

Stop posturing Mr. Crosby. I've always had respect for you. Let me keep it while we wait for the facts to come out.

34 posted on 04/07/2012 1:00:51 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

We americans have become COMFORTABLY NUMB, we have turned into SHEEP and PIGS, we are up against THE WALL and might as well be on THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON, But I guess only TIME will tell. Of course if you got MONEY you could be WAITING FOR THE WORMS with MOTHER!


35 posted on 04/07/2012 1:01:28 PM PDT by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: mylife

Same here.


36 posted on 04/07/2012 1:02:00 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: alloysteel

“It is not like Zimmerman was carrying the weapon, cocked and loaded, at the ready while stalking Martin.”

I sure as hell hope it was loaded’ what use is an unloaded gun ?


37 posted on 04/07/2012 1:02:39 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

When I am in a neighborhood watch, where 7 burgluries have happened (Where was Trayvon on those nights?) and I see someone wandering between the houses in the rain, in the dark.. I would want a gun too.

As far as I am concerned there is one less budding thug in the world, rather than one concerned citizen

And I would have given anything to see the look on Trayvons face when he realized he picked on the wrong guy


38 posted on 04/07/2012 1:03:19 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

FUBC.


39 posted on 04/07/2012 1:03:42 PM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Mr. Zimmerman called for “police backup” as he was watching the hooded suspect (and yes, hoodies represent bad guys and bad happenings). Read his police call transcripts and get the facts, Mr. Crosby, before you lose your hard-earned credibility.


40 posted on 04/07/2012 1:05:39 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath Is Forever)
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To: NonValueAdded
To the extent that the Watch and VCOP programs are riddled with them, I can’t say I disagree. And I’ll bet that as a result of the Martin case and the law suits that will ensue, Neighborhood Watches nation-wide will do exactly what Cos is saying. But make it a rule promulgated by the groups themselves, not by the gubermint.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Neighborhood Watch _IS_ a "gubermint" program, from stem to stern, top to bottom. Every group is registered on a .gov website.

I WILL NOT leave my home without being armed. If that means I don't participate in Goobermint Watch, I will quit right now.

Anti-self-defense jabbering on FR? Never thought I'd see the day.

41 posted on 04/07/2012 1:07:02 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
And Cosby, you ass, so is a knife, screwdriver, chain saw, drugs, piece of rope, hatchet, etc, etc. Just shut the hell up and go back asleep in your liberal world of fantasy.
42 posted on 04/07/2012 1:08:51 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: GreatOne

You are correct _ I work in Security but we do not carry guns in Australia. I will approach people if I feel safe to do so - I normally will not approach a group of young males or anyone who rings alarms in my head. That being said there is always that one percent who will approach you. I wouldn’t mind having a gun as a deterent for them.

Mel


43 posted on 04/07/2012 1:09:37 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: mylife
I used to respect you Bill.

I respect his right to his opinion, even though I do not agree with it. Agree or not, he's a straight shooter.

44 posted on 04/07/2012 1:11:27 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Had Bill's son, Ennis, carried a weapon, he might be alive today. Pity Bill can't see the worth of self-defense.
45 posted on 04/07/2012 1:11:51 PM PDT by wtd
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To: NonValueAdded

We wouldn’t need “wannabe cops” if the real cops were actually doing their job. Don’t need to be a member of a “neighborhood watch” to carry a gun and watch your neighborhood. I watch my neighborhood all the time and don’t belong to any group.


46 posted on 04/07/2012 1:11:51 PM PDT by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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To: GreatOne
Don’t lose sight of the fact that Bill Cosby’s son was shot to death during a carjacking. He’s most likely thinking from that perspective.

Too bad "The Music" Cosby wasn't carrying that day, and couldn't give the carjackers a few extra holes. Oh, that's right, the state he lived in doesn't allow concealed carry, except when you pay off some sheriff.

FReepers (and Cosby) would do well not to "lose sight of the fact" of the SECOND AMENDMENT. It is in force. Get used to it.

47 posted on 04/07/2012 1:12:06 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This can’t be THE Bill Cosby we all knew and loved!?


48 posted on 04/07/2012 1:14:19 PM PDT by RoadTest (There is one god, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
“When you carry a gun, you mean to harm somebody, kill somebody,” he said

How come in places like my old home of Roscommon we don't kill people. We all have guns. Only critters and deer need to worry.

49 posted on 04/07/2012 1:14:24 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: JimRed

He’s entitled to his opinion and I’m entitled to not respect him for that opinion.

I’m sure he voted for the idiot in the WH, which makes him anything but a straight shooter.


50 posted on 04/07/2012 1:15:56 PM PDT by beandog (Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand)
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