Skip to comments.Zimmerman Prosecutor Affidavit contains NOTHING NEW!
Posted on 04/12/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by gopcharger
The prosecutor affidavit contains all kinds of conjecture that certainly isn't based on the only eyewitness to certain events: Zimmerman.
Affadavit says "Trayvon Martin's mother" said the cries were Trayvon's. THAT is evidence? Zimmerman's father and brother, and LOGIC say they were Zimmerman's!
"Zimmerman confronted Martin" Doesn't the girlfriend say it was MARTIN who she heard speak first?
The fact that there is NO other evidence presented for "probable cause" than unsupported conjecture we've all heard from the race hustlers is astonishing.
Zimmerman will walk.
I have two words for the prosecutor:
The DUmmies are treating this as absolute proof that refutes Zimmerman’s whole story, and that his goose is cooked. They don’t understand that the prosecution has to PROVE all this to a jury, beyond a reasonable doubt.
But in walking, the riots are defered to a more useful, predictable time. That he was charged only adds to the outrage to come. This is political theater.
Imagine my surprise.
I could think of a billion ways to win this case for Zimmerman. I'd put on trial the media Sharpton, Jackson, the state of Florida, and the hostile witness list would be more than the hash marks on the oldest soldier's sleeve.
I predict the charges will be dismissed at the evidence hearing. According to FL law no further charges can be brought and no civil trial can occur if it is dismissed.
Zimmerman should walk, but he will be up against the biggest railroad job and kangaroo court show trial in the history of the US.
If it goes to trial, they will nee an all black jury to convict.
If it goes to trial, they will need an all black jury to convict.
If it goes to trial, they will need an all black jury to convict.
LoL. They do live up to their given namesake.
I see you know how it works.
The only thing the affidavit is meant to show is probable cause to charge him. It is not a full listing of evidence, and it isn’t supposed to contain enough evidence to convict. Having said that, it still sounds pretty weak to me.
So now we’ve now have an apparently “conservative Republican” prosecutor issuing an affidavit that might as well have been written by Sharpton?
What a circus!
It’d be comical were it not for the fact that a man who appears very unlikely to be actually guilty of murder is being put through this at the behest of a bunch of left-wing goons and race pimps.
Coming from where it did I expected the affidavit to present some “game changer” piece of evidence.. a cell phone cam or something.. that justified the charge.
As the case stands now, we have the most reliable eyewitness, one who saw and heard the events immediately prior to the shot, saying Martin was beating Zimmerman and Z. was calling for help, while on the other end we’ve got theories, speculations, character assassination (the profiling garbage), and now prosecution “theories” built on witness who’ve crawled out of the woodwork, changed their stories, or been exposed to weeks of propaganda and pressure.
What a travesty.
If you don’t have the consensus of the police that initially arrived at the scene, finding guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is going to be VERY difficult (with an unbiased jury).
I agree. This is by no means all the prosecution has, but even on it’s own, it’s a weak document.
The most damning claim is that Z followed M after being “instructed” by a dispatcher not to do that. That’s been dealt with numerous times, the dispatcher has no legal authority to command Z. It doesn’t address the actual fight beyond “A struggle ensued”, a phrase that could be used to describe what happened after Germany invaded Poland.
This is pretty lame stuff.
I hope George Zimmerman ends up OWNING CNN!!!
“Affadavit says “Trayvon Martin’s mother” said the cries were Trayvon’s. THAT is evidence? Zimmerman’s father and brother, and LOGIC say they were Zimmerman’s! “
I wonder why everyone ignores the witness “John” who SAW Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating him and SAW Zimmerman screaming for help. Everyone ignores this witness. CNN even had an online piece on all the witnesses and left this man out. Who cares what a relative thinks they heard on a recording or what some 3rd party sound company says...WE HAVE A WITNESS!!!
“The guy on the bottom who I believe had a red sweater on was yelling to me help, help, and I told him to stop and I was calling 911. I got upstairs and looked down, the person that was on top beating up the other guy was the one laying in the grass, and I believe he was dead at that point.”
There seem to be some inaccuracies in the affadavit, along with lots of spin.
1) The “police dispatcher” seemed to actually be a 911 operator. I believe he answered the call by asking if GZ needed “police, fire or medical”.
2) The 911 operator did not “instruct” GZ not to follow TM, he simply said, “We don’t need you to do that.”, in a very casual tone of voice. It was certainly not a order.
3) They claim that TMs girlfriend said he TM was “running”, but the the recording of the interview she says that he was “walking fast” and she told him to run, but he said he would not run. Logic would also dictate that a 6’2” 160 lb football player should be easily able to outrun the short, portly Zimmerman, especially with a head start.
BTW, has have the results of the toxicology tests on the corpse of Saint Trayvon been released yet?
I at least thought they would indicate from what angle Martin was shot. I assume it wasn’t in the back, because that would warrant a higher charge.
But they should be able to determine if Martin was standing when shot, how far away he was from the gun, or whether he was shot from below while he pinned Zimmerman down.
They have to weigh the evidence—the speculation of a black person like Trayvon’s mother tips the scales over the speculation of a white person like Robert Zimmerman.
If it does go to trial, expect a change of venue petition to be submitted, and the trial moved to a more “urban” district court.
It worked for the second King trial.
Sister of Nifong.
Anyone that walks in with a National Standard to read while waiting to be interviewed will be immediately released. This prosecutor will want the Oprah, Olberbite crowd.
I agree. This is nothing more than a major distraction in which everyone, including FR, is engaging. I ignore most every story that I see regarding Martin & Zimmerman and look to see what else is happening that they don't want us to focus on.
BTW, here's the court where Zimmerman will be tried.
If at first it don't seethe try, try anything ethical or not to make it seethe.
If NBC's patented cherry-bomb journalism had any effect then the affidavit probably reads something like this.
. . . Zimmerman who is white attacked the 12-year-old black child . . . neighbors said that the white man . . . Zimmerman, described as white and well over two hundred pounds, . . . Zimmerman, a white resident of . . . Zimmerman a white neighborhood watch . . . police said they found the white man standing over the slain black . . . .
See USA Today's Prosecutor to reveal new information in Trayvon Martin probe.
I assumed that this was in advance of the decision to prosecute or not prosecute, in order to provide new context on the Special Prosecutor's decision.
So, here we are today with the decision to prosecute Zimmerman for 2nd degree murder, but where is the promised new information that supports that decision?
Female Spawn of Nifong.
They probably wont change the venue. They’ll bring in a jury from elsewhere like the Anthony trial. Who the hell would want to host this fiasco? The city would be trashed.
What’s even more strange to me is the idea that Zimmerman “confronted” Martin. Even if he did, he was well within his legal rights to say “hey, who are you? What are you doing here?” That wouldn’t give Martin the right to punch him in the face.
Even if Zimmerman grabbed Martin’s arm, there is principle of proportional response, and grabbing somebody’s arm does not give them the right to punch you in the face, jump on top of you and bang your head against the pavement. And it doesn’t eliminate your right to self-defense.
It seems to me that they may allege Zimmerman confronted Martin while brandishing or “flashing” his gun, which would (I’d think) make Martin’s actions in starting a fight justifiable self-defense.
What I don’t understand is that even if that is what happened, I can’t see any conceivable way it could be provable.
It’s not even “he said, she said;” it’s “he said, she imagines.”
But this distraction has the potential to run for months. I didn’t even hear about the case until after the Reverend Al was through with Whitney’s funeral. Now it’s all I hear. And it has the potential to go BOOM!
Demographics from 2010 census:
Sanford (which is in Seminole County):
If I had any Photoshop skill, I’d do one of 12 kangaroos listening to the lawyers...
If preponderance of evidence is 51%, probable cause would be 65% (more likely than not), pre lims may require 80% but guilt beyond a reasonable doubt 99%. Some may argue but the percentages but I am just trying to offer a visual.
That's not going to happen, at least not for the reasons that you cite. What part of the statement is false? Zimmerman no doubt did profile Martin? So what? Zimmerman is not a LEO that may be prohibited by some stupid law from profiling. If we're honest with ourselves, then we will admit that we all profile, and by "all" I mean black people as well. We don't know for sure what happened between Zimmerman's 911 call and Martin's attempt to kill Zimmerman. There was obviously a confrontation and we'll have to wait for the evidence to determine who initiated the confrontation. And Zimmerman fatally shot Martin. So what did CNN say that is false?
Does anyone know why a special prosecutor has been appointed? Is it because the regular prosecute knows the case is s loser and doesn't want to prosecute at the risk of an acquittal that will ruin his reputation? Or does Zimmerman have family that works for the court system?
Here's my prediction: Jury's are much smarter than most Freepers seem to give them credit for. 99% of the time they listen to the evidence and they try to make the right decision. In the absence of an incriminating autopsy or a previously undisclosed video or audio, even an inexperienced public defender should get Zimmerman off in less than an hour of jury deliberation. What is really going on is that a special prosecutor has been appointed with specific instructions from inside the beltway to prosecute, regardless of what the evidence may show, in order to appease the left and postpone the inevitable riots until after the election. The case will go to trial early next year and when riots break out after Zimmerman's acquittal, Obama with the help of the MSM will fan the flames to further his communist revolution if he is still in power, and if Romney is the POTUS, then the MSM will blame Romney for failing to prevent the riots.
The lefties are putting the powder into the keg which will explode when Zimmerman walks. The rabble would love to have another opportunity to “justify” riots and murder. If they had a backbone and upheld the decision of the police not to charge Zimmerman, this would have faded away in a couple of weeks. By appeasing the racial thugs who are generating this crisis, they’re creating the conditions for another Rodney King inspired bloodbath.
Yes it does.
I didn't have the opportunity to keep track, but in her long, platitude-laced speech she must have mention "Travon" at least ten times; Zimmmerman, perhaps once.
In none of the thousands of black on white murder trials, I can't recall a single similar puzzler.
PC and intimidation writ large.
Zimmerman will walk, but not until he has accrued tens of thousands of dollars in legal fees. After he walks, I would sue the prosecutor for malicious prosecution.
I hope he walks...but this is Florida. Remember how everyone was sure Casey Anthony would be convicted?