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Zimmerman Prosecutor Affidavit contains NOTHING NEW!
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 04/12/12 | affadavit

Posted on 04/12/2012 2:23:35 PM PDT by gopcharger

The prosecutor affidavit contains all kinds of conjecture that certainly isn't based on the only eyewitness to certain events: Zimmerman.

Affadavit says "Trayvon Martin's mother" said the cries were Trayvon's. THAT is evidence? Zimmerman's father and brother, and LOGIC say they were Zimmerman's!

"Zimmerman confronted Martin" Doesn't the girlfriend say it was MARTIN who she heard speak first?

The fact that there is NO other evidence presented for "probable cause" than unsupported conjecture we've all heard from the race hustlers is astonishing.

Zimmerman will walk.

Affidavit:

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2012-04/69353440.pdf


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To: umgud
They could have 3 or 4 whites on the jury--avid watchers of MSNBC or subscribers to The Nation--and get 12-0 vote for "guilty."
21 posted on 04/12/2012 2:51:07 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: gopcharger

There seem to be some inaccuracies in the affadavit, along with lots of spin.

1) The “police dispatcher” seemed to actually be a 911 operator. I believe he answered the call by asking if GZ needed “police, fire or medical”.

2) The 911 operator did not “instruct” GZ not to follow TM, he simply said, “We don’t need you to do that.”, in a very casual tone of voice. It was certainly not a order.

3) They claim that TMs girlfriend said he TM was “running”, but the the recording of the interview she says that he was “walking fast” and she told him to run, but he said he would not run. Logic would also dictate that a 6’2” 160 lb football player should be easily able to outrun the short, portly Zimmerman, especially with a head start.

BTW, has have the results of the toxicology tests on the corpse of Saint Trayvon been released yet?


22 posted on 04/12/2012 2:51:38 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: gopcharger

I at least thought they would indicate from what angle Martin was shot. I assume it wasn’t in the back, because that would warrant a higher charge.

But they should be able to determine if Martin was standing when shot, how far away he was from the gun, or whether he was shot from below while he pinned Zimmerman down.


23 posted on 04/12/2012 2:51:42 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: icwhatudo

They have to weigh the evidence—the speculation of a black person like Trayvon’s mother tips the scales over the speculation of a white person like Robert Zimmerman.


24 posted on 04/12/2012 2:52:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: gopcharger

If it does go to trial, expect a change of venue petition to be submitted, and the trial moved to a more “urban” district court.

It worked for the second King trial.


25 posted on 04/12/2012 2:53:03 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

Sister of Nifong.


26 posted on 04/12/2012 2:53:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Anyone that walks in with a National Standard to read while waiting to be interviewed will be immediately released. This prosecutor will want the Oprah, Olberbite crowd.


27 posted on 04/12/2012 2:56:20 PM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (God is dead - William Hamilton....William Hamilton is dead - God (And he means it))
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To: gundog
This is political theater.

I agree. This is nothing more than a major distraction in which everyone, including FR, is engaging. I ignore most every story that I see regarding Martin & Zimmerman and look to see what else is happening that they don't want us to focus on.

28 posted on 04/12/2012 2:57:25 PM PDT by PuzzledInTX
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To: Truth29
With a carefully picked jury who have been educated about the personal consequences to them [or their job, spouse, children, parents, etc.] if they vote to acquit, will Zimmerman walk?

BTW, here's the court where Zimmerman will be tried.

29 posted on 04/12/2012 2:57:51 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: gopcharger
Obama and son's race relations 2012 with a lot of help from the MSM

If at first it don't seethe try, try anything ethical or not to make it seethe.

If NBC's patented cherry-bomb journalism had any effect then the affidavit probably reads something like this.

. . . Zimmerman who is white attacked the 12-year-old black child . . . neighbors said that the white man . . . Zimmerman, described as white and well over two hundred pounds, . . . Zimmerman, a white resident of . . . Zimmerman a white neighborhood watch . . . police said they found the white man standing over the slain black . . . .

30 posted on 04/12/2012 3:00:48 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: gopcharger
Two days ago, it was all over the news that the special prosecutor would be releasing NEW information about the case within 72 hours.

See USA Today's Prosecutor to reveal new information in Trayvon Martin probe.

See MSNBC's Florida prosecutor to release new information in Martin shooting.

I assumed that this was in advance of the decision to prosecute or not prosecute, in order to provide new context on the Special Prosecutor's decision.

So, here we are today with the decision to prosecute Zimmerman for 2nd degree murder, but where is the promised new information that supports that decision?

I'm waiting...

-PJ

31 posted on 04/12/2012 3:01:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Female Spawn of Nifong.


32 posted on 04/12/2012 3:02:07 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Yo-Yo

They probably wont change the venue. They’ll bring in a jury from elsewhere like the Anthony trial. Who the hell would want to host this fiasco? The city would be trashed.


33 posted on 04/12/2012 3:06:02 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: M1911A1

What’s even more strange to me is the idea that Zimmerman “confronted” Martin. Even if he did, he was well within his legal rights to say “hey, who are you? What are you doing here?” That wouldn’t give Martin the right to punch him in the face.

Even if Zimmerman grabbed Martin’s arm, there is principle of proportional response, and grabbing somebody’s arm does not give them the right to punch you in the face, jump on top of you and bang your head against the pavement. And it doesn’t eliminate your right to self-defense.

It seems to me that they may allege Zimmerman confronted Martin while brandishing or “flashing” his gun, which would (I’d think) make Martin’s actions in starting a fight justifiable self-defense.

What I don’t understand is that even if that is what happened, I can’t see any conceivable way it could be provable.

It’s not even “he said, she said;” it’s “he said, she imagines.”


34 posted on 04/12/2012 3:09:25 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PuzzledInTX

But this distraction has the potential to run for months. I didn’t even hear about the case until after the Reverend Al was through with Whitney’s funeral. Now it’s all I hear. And it has the potential to go BOOM!


35 posted on 04/12/2012 3:09:41 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gopcharger

Demographics from 2010 census:
Seminole county:
66% white
10% Black
17% Hispanic
Sanford (which is in Seminole County):
57.3% White
30.5% Black
20% Hispanic

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/12/1263650.html


36 posted on 04/12/2012 3:11:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Carl Vehse; mickie
"Here's the court where Zimmerman will be tried".

Arf, arf....

Leni

37 posted on 04/12/2012 3:15:04 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Navy Patriot

If I had any Photoshop skill, I’d do one of 12 kangaroos listening to the lawyers...


38 posted on 04/12/2012 3:17:38 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: gzzimlich
Actually, almost all informations as felony warrants are called in Florida, read just like this. The prosecutor only shows incriminating evidence in order to make the arrest and process the arraignment. The prosecutor will NEVER include exculpatory information (information beneficial to the defendant).
Unfortunately I do see this going to trial. The evidence hearing will only determine if the evidence was legally obtained.
That being said, the preliminary hearing is the only chance to stop this charade. There the evidence is challenged by the defense and exculpatory evidence will be admitted at this phase. Understand that we are still not at the innocent/guilty phase. The prosecutor will present the evidence suggesting guilt and the defense will challenge it. I do not know if they defense can or will produce their own evidence. They can produce their own challenging witnesses.
Basically, the pre lim requires the State to submit evidence indicating substantially more proof than probable cause but far less than guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

If preponderance of evidence is 51%, probable cause would be 65% (more likely than not), pre lims may require 80% but guilt beyond a reasonable doubt 99%. Some may argue but the percentages but I am just trying to offer a visual.

39 posted on 04/12/2012 3:30:00 PM PDT by midcop402
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To: Mr Rogers
You might try to Photoshop the Prosecutrix's face on this image, she'd look great in that neat headdress.


40 posted on 04/12/2012 3:33:37 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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