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NASA swipes back at former astronauts over climate change
Daily Caller ^ | 12:06 AM 04/12/2012 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 04/13/2012 8:46:41 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

NASA is swiping back at a group of nearly 50 of its former scientists and astronauts who wrote to accuse the space agency of advocating the “extreme” position that global warming is the result of man-made carbon dioxide.

In a March 28 letter addressed to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, 49 former employees said the “unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.”

But NASA responded on Wednesday by saying they don’t “draw conclusions and issue ‘claims’ about research findings.”

“We support open scientific inquiry and discussion,” NASA chief scientist Waleed Abdalati said in a statement provided to The Daily Caller.

“If the authors of this letter disagree with specific scientific conclusions made public by NASA scientists, we encourage them to join the debate in the scientific literature or public forums rather than restrict any discourse,” Abdalati said.

He added: “NASA sponsors research into many areas of cutting-edge scientific inquiry, including the relationship between carbon dioxide and climate.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climate; climatechange; climategate; climategate2; giss; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hansen; jameshansen; nasa; nasaletter

1 posted on 04/13/2012 8:46:54 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...

fyi


2 posted on 04/13/2012 8:47:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It must be frustrating for NASA when they’re unable to censor, intimidate, or threaten their former employees into silence.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 8:49:31 AM PDT by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

NASA is a joke.

Poor management has killed 14 shuttle astronauts.

The fact that plants produce carbon dioxide is not “cutting edge.”

I guess making up BS to fit a political agenda is.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 8:52:23 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: All
Related thread from Anthony Watts's Website on this statement from NASA:

NASA chief scientist Waleed Abdalati is clueless about what James Hansen is doing ...

5 posted on 04/13/2012 8:52:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: MeganC

See link at #5.


6 posted on 04/13/2012 8:54:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: MeganC
NASA was poisoned when it stopped looking out into space and started focusing on earth.
I remember in grad school taking grad physics and space science classes and it seemed all they were excited about was this new NASA earth observation program. I finally got to grad school in physics so I could inspired by early NASA, the moonwalk, Star Trek (yes as silly as that was!) and to these profs space stopped and ended in low earth orbit with all attention turned toward terra firma.
I much later find out it was all because of funding.
7 posted on 04/13/2012 8:57:31 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Why does NASA even care about this stuff? Aren’t they supposed to be focused on helping Muslims feel good about Islam?


8 posted on 04/13/2012 8:57:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
... cutting-edge scientific inquiry,including the relationship between carbon dioxide and climate.

Cutting-edge scientific inquiry?

But, I thought that it was settled, concensus-based fact that only "deniers" questioned.

9 posted on 04/13/2012 8:59:03 AM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

NASA is no longer a scientific organization.

(Apologies to all real scientists there...a set that does not include the climate clowns..or the “management”.)


10 posted on 04/13/2012 8:59:35 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“If the authors of this letter disagree...., we encourage them to join the debate in the scientific literature...” Abdalati said.

That would be fine if the warmists did not prevent counter-argument papers being published in said literature.

11 posted on 04/13/2012 9:01:48 AM PDT by expat2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hey NASA! Where’d the Ice Age go? Man-made climate change a factor there too? Or could it be any change is cyclical? Oh...cyclical means you can’t use the excuse to tax it.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 9:07:00 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What a bunch of petulant, unprofessional jerks NASHOLE has become.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 9:08:28 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gee...I’m old enough to remember when every American could be proud of NASA.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 9:12:46 AM PDT by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

..................Aren’t they supposed to be focused on helping Muslims feel good about Islam................

“Waleed Abdalati” ??? Maybe they are - doesn’t sound like an Amish name!


15 posted on 04/13/2012 9:18:51 AM PDT by Noob1999 (Loose Lips, Sink Ships)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gee. This is a tough one for me. Who should I listen to?

Waleed Abdalati or Michael Collins?

Waleed Abdalati or Harrison Schmitt?

Waleed Abdalati or Walter Cunningham?

Waleed Abdalati or Charles Duke?

Waleed Abdalati or Richard Gordon?

Waleed Abdalati or Ed Gibson?

Waleed Abdalati or Christopher Kraft?

Waleed Abdalati or Al Worden?

Boy, am I ever conflicted on this.


16 posted on 04/13/2012 9:23:35 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Reily

Nothing silly about that at all. How many people entered the sciences over the years because of Jules Verne?

Nothing silly there. I recently watched some episodes of Star Trek on Netflix, and it was hard to watch without observing with chagrin the liberal-speak that was in much of the campy script, but that was back when it was still okay to be principled about something, and to use force to defend those principles when circumstances required it.

I watched several episodes and smiled with nostaligia at the campiness...:)

Now, my tastes go more towards something like “GalaxyQuest”!


17 posted on 04/13/2012 9:30:16 AM PDT by rlmorel (A knife in the chest from a unapologetic liberal is preferable to a knife in the back from a RINO.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Universetoday.com has a loaded article entitled "Letter to NASA is Common Ploy in Climate Change Denial".

The authoress's creds just made me want to stop subscribing to a couple of podcasts.

I expected better of Universe Today. The article comments run the gamut.

18 posted on 04/13/2012 9:59:07 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Reily
I much later find out it was all because of funding.

NASA's big mistake? Not finding a way to launch rockets fueled with with milk & cheese.

An old joke aimed at the agricultural types at the time, such as Proxmire and Mondale.

19 posted on 04/13/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: rlmorel
I thought Galaxy Quest was hilarious!
It's rare that satire can be such a gem, but it skewered every sacred SciFi (particularly Star Trek!) cow but it a way that was not offensive.
20 posted on 04/13/2012 10:09:28 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Cutting edge scientific inquiry” my arse. It’s a RELIGION!


21 posted on 04/13/2012 10:18:14 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: rlmorel

and you can actually study the earth legitimately!
Anyone remember or hear about IGY International Geophysical Year (1957-1958)?


22 posted on 04/13/2012 10:19:50 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“NASA chief scientist Waleed Abdalati”

We are so screwed.


23 posted on 04/13/2012 10:37:29 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“We support open scientific inquiry and discussion,” NASA chief scientist Waleed Abdalati said

Waleed Abdalati is a liar.
"The debate is over."
"There is a consensus."
"Deniers! Flat-earthers!"

Waleed Abdalati can go play in the street. He's not fit to shine the shoes of any astronaut.

24 posted on 04/13/2012 11:34:21 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"But NASA responded on Wednesday by saying they don’t “draw conclusions and issue ‘claims’ about research findings.”
I bet if they where told they no longer can fund anything related to GISS, they would take a quick turn around in their thinking.
25 posted on 04/13/2012 2:11:02 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"He added: “NASA sponsors research into many areas of cutting-edge scientific inquiry, including the relationship between carbon dioxide and climate.”
Sure they do. Like Hansen changing raw data input into his useless programs when he sees fit to hide the declines.
26 posted on 04/13/2012 2:19:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
feh...
27 posted on 04/13/2012 2:56:34 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: rlmorel

LOL!


28 posted on 04/13/2012 5:00:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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29 posted on 04/13/2012 6:12:40 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: pgkdan

...and proud of our government, too; even the President.

(Sigh!) Days long past, and most unlikely to return.


30 posted on 04/13/2012 8:38:55 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Reily

Antarctic ice cores. Ozone hole (Oops!) USS Nautilus to the North Pole. Van Allen Belts. Project MOHO.

Project MOHO?!?

Anyone hearing that today would think it was referring to a Hip-Hopper candidate’s political slogan. “Elect me mayor and I will enact Project MoHo: 2 B****s in every crib!”


31 posted on 04/13/2012 8:54:55 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Yes by the way if I remember correctly the Ozone studies then were correctly (as we know now!) attributing the fluctations in Ozone (the “hole”) to natural causes.

I thought MOHO was so so cool!

32 posted on 04/14/2012 6:28:49 AM PDT by Reily
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To: ApplegateRanch
Yes by the way if I remember correctly the Ozone studies then were correctly (as we know now!) attributing the fluctuations in Ozone (the “hole”) to natural causes.

I thought MOHO was so so cool!

33 posted on 04/14/2012 6:29:01 AM PDT by Reily
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To: rlmorel

Let me guess NASA is now required by law to have to hire Muslims via affirmative action? Waleed Abdalati was hired on his merits or because he was Muslim? Do Muslims even believe there is an outter space in their 12th century mindset?


34 posted on 04/14/2012 10:00:26 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Marine_Uncle
But NASA responded on Wednesday by saying they don’t “draw conclusions and issue ‘claims’ about research findings.”

Hmm. Wasn't this one of their documented problems regarding warnings from Morton Thiokol engineers about launching Challenger in sub-zero temperatures?

35 posted on 04/23/2012 10:18:10 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
RE: "Hmm. Wasn't this one of their documented problems regarding warnings from Morton Thiokol engineers about launching Challenger in sub-zero temperatures?"
I can't say I remember that issue. But I get where your coming from.
36 posted on 04/23/2012 12:40:37 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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