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12 Ways To Use Saul Alinsky's Rules For Radicals Against Liberals
Townhall ^ | 04/13/2012 | John Hawkins

Posted on 04/13/2012 8:29:43 PM PDT by Silentgypsy

Saul Alinsky was a brilliant man. Evil, but brilliant. Unfortunately, whether we like it or not, everyone on the Left from the President on down is playing by his rules in the political arena. Not all liberals have read his book or know his name, but his tactics have become universal. Sadly for conservatives, when two evenly matched forces go head-to-head outside of a fairy tale, the side that tries to play nice usually ends up with its head in a box. So, don't lie or become an evil person like Alinsky, but learn from what he wrote and give the Left a taste of its own medicine.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: alinsky; liberals; rulesconservatives; rulesforradicals
In 2010, I asked the FReepers how to combat the Alinskyite (sp?) tactics. They responded w/suggestions which mirror these.
1 posted on 04/13/2012 8:29:52 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

Bm


2 posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:31 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (DNC/RNC...the D.C. Establishment...old brazilian saying: Different flie$, $ame $h!t. :^)
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To: Silentgypsy

Bm


3 posted on 04/13/2012 8:40:06 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (DNC/RNC...the D.C. Establishment...old brazilian saying: Different flie$, $ame $h!t. :^)
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To: Silentgypsy

from a related article:

At the beginning of his book, Alinsky said: “The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.” Almost 40 years later, that message resonates with a new audience that Alinsky could not have imagined. Indeed, I wouldn’t be surprised if at this very moment a Tea Partier somewhere in America is underlining those very words in his copy of Rules for Radicals.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 8:43:36 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Silentgypsy

Leftists have a superficial understanding of Alinsky. Take advantage of this by learning these rules and using them against the left.


5 posted on 04/13/2012 8:55:52 PM PDT by yawningotter
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To: Silentgypsy
Good article, but conservatives better learn to embrace the art of asymmetrical warfare if they want to win, and that they're willing to play dirty, if that's what it takes. The leftists pull no punches, why should we?
6 posted on 04/13/2012 8:58:00 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Silentgypsy

bookmark


7 posted on 04/13/2012 9:00:00 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Silentgypsy

In connection with this is to know the tools they use to achieve their evil goals: Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation (Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist)

http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html


8 posted on 04/13/2012 9:01:15 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: bigbob

Bump!

Worth repeating:

“The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away.”

Real hope. Real change.

DEFEAT OBAMA.


9 posted on 04/13/2012 9:03:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Hi Mom!)
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To: factoryrat

That is exactly what I posted two years ago, and I was ignored. It’s nice to take the high road, but let’s be realistic.


10 posted on 04/13/2012 9:04:29 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: factoryrat

“Nice guys finish last”.

I’ve been angry for the last 3.5 years. And, I’m getting angrier by the moment.

If Romney gets in, my anger will continue and I will make his life a living hell.

If Bath-House Barry gets in...there are no words...I take the fifth.


11 posted on 04/13/2012 9:06:21 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: bigbob

The Haves holding power in this government are pan Leninists and nationalist socialists.


12 posted on 04/13/2012 9:10:01 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: Silentgypsy
We don't even do simple things like unload on a show with scheduled guests that we don't like. But the Left seems to do it every time.

We don't because we really do believe in free speech, they say they do but of course they do not,

So the result is millions of apolitical people hear only one side on "nonpartisan" show like CoastToCoastAM.

Earlier this week the scheduled guest was Sharon Sebastian a writer and critic of Obama. Extremely rare to have criticism of Obama on that show. Bush-Chency bashed regularly going on 12 years however.

I was looking forward to it because IMO C2C is not nonpartisan and regularly for 12 years had guests on who attack Bush.. the host George Noory has labeled George Bush a war criminal among other things. Virtually no criticism of Obama has been tolerated until he signed the NDAA on New Years eve. But no restrictions at all on the hatred for Bush-Cheney-Halliburton since Noory became the host.

Another FReeper posted a thread announcing Ms Sebastian's appearance on the show. We did not know until we tuned in C2C and discovered that despite days of schedule announcements Ms Sebastian was not a guest -- an NOT a single word why. Normally C2C announces that the missing guest has been rescheduled.

I went on a search and found this.

"Hate Radio on Coast-to-Coast. Who is 'Sharon Sebastian'?"

The posts prove that these DU guys do not listen to C2C they just protest the guests on the show. Some comments told me that C2C cancelled Ms Sebastian because of their protests.

They complain about Dr. Corsi and the birthers. The fact is C2C does not allow any discussion of Obama eligibility. (Noory commented on it a couple of years ago.) Dr. Corsi is a regular guest but he is not on to criticize Obama for any reason. He is there about Iran, oil, and sometimes the economy.

C2C producers and Noory (the host) refused to answer my email requests to tell us the reason Ms Sebastian was cancelled. I think the reason is clear however.

Here's the point: "Nonpartisan" shows like C2C influence apolitical listeners and if it is a close election this year Obama could win because of C2C's influence.

13 posted on 04/13/2012 9:15:17 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Silentgypsy

It’s frustrating to say the least, but our time will come.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 9:20:29 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
The problem is that the team that we're sending on the field, the GOP-e, is utterly clueless and possibly spineless in the face of these tactics. They keep pulling the Rodney King act with the Dems - "can't we all just get along?" - while the Dems are beating them over the head with brass knuckles. The GOP has been the Part of Bush for the past 20+ years, but this has to change.
15 posted on 04/13/2012 9:20:36 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: Silentgypsy
I remember the 1960s and the Marxist-Alinsky campus spoiled brats. They've influenced our culture creating two generations of bratty ideological issue. They are all arguably now the Establishment.

This truly is what they have worked for and a second Obama term is their last hope to "bring it all down, man" and replace it with their horror.

The title for the book should be "Rules For Spoiled Brats" for the "radicals" are little different than spoiled children.. except of course some of them are dangerous psychos.

16 posted on 04/13/2012 9:26:46 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Major Matt Mason
You're missing the point. The two parties are one in the same, smoke and mirrors, two sides of the same coin, and all of that. The current politicians are only interested in amassing power, and holding on to it for their own personal gain. They're laughing at us right now, because we actually believe the crap they're trying to shovel down Our throats.
17 posted on 04/13/2012 9:32:46 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Thanks for posting.

This needs to be shared far and wide, on our side.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 10:16:11 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Silentgypsy

This is a great article. All conservatives should read apply these rules for conservatives. We should all read and practice this. It’s time to bond and throw the Left out.


19 posted on 04/14/2012 12:30:56 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Mechanicos

Another good one.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 12:36:10 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

“... This truly is what they have worked for and a second Obama term is their last hope to “bring it all down, man” and replace it with their horror. ...”

Absolutely correct and the only reason I could vote for Romney. It is disgusting but it is what it is.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 12:46:27 AM PDT by enduserindy (Conservative Dead Head)
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To: yawningotter

“Leftists have a superficial understanding of Alinsky. Take advantage of this by learning these rules and using them against the left.”

You cannot beat Alinsky without beating the MSM. Without the MSM, Alinsky is just an author of an Anti-American piece of schlock. We need to take rule 13 and apply it to every liberal commentator out there. And when they start whining like the little girlymen they are, you ramp up the pressure.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 3:57:41 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: freekitty

I would love to see Conservatives uniting and backing someone who isn’t Romney. If the country’s gonna get back on its feet, we have to present a solid front.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 7:57:12 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

Ping for later


24 posted on 04/14/2012 7:58:30 AM PDT by wintertime (Reforming a government K-12 school is like reforming an abortion center.)
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To: FlyingEagle
The Haves holding power in this government are pan Leninists and nationalist socialists.

The Haves want to impose socialism on the masses, because they think it will protect them from competition.....Rich people hate competition....that's why they are no friends of Laissez Faire-based market economies.

25 posted on 04/14/2012 7:59:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Anecdotal: I was paying a babysitter so that I could complete my degree at the time of the demonstrations re: Kent. The protestors were preventing us from accessing our classes. One of my instructors was beaten on another campus the previous year. I asked one of the police officers to please shoot them because I had things to do. He smiled and offered his gun to me. I drew back. Those guys didn’t have an easy job.
Fortunately, the prof who had been beaten drove us mercilessly to complete our coursework by midsemester. She knew more demonstrations were coming and didn’t want us to get gypped!


26 posted on 04/14/2012 9:03:35 AM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

I understand. We have to stand up and unite. the Left is choosing our lives for us. We should be going viral on our votes being counted in Spain. Kick our money laundering Congress you know whats until they do the right thing.


27 posted on 04/14/2012 12:08:04 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Silentgypsy

I’m printing these!


28 posted on 04/14/2012 5:45:41 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

Mechanicos posted a link to the 25 Rules of Disinformation. Those allow you to identify the manipulative ploy that the leftists use in any given situation, and to make it known to others in plain English. They find it frustrating (lol!).
Godspeed....


29 posted on 04/14/2012 6:56:31 PM PDT by Silentgypsy
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To: Silentgypsy

I was going to post this BUT found it had already been posted on FR; however, in my opinion, given our political climate I feel the discussion is more important than and deserves greater exposure than ‘chat’ provides —this should be moved from general chat -history TO news -extended editorial


30 posted on 01/04/2013 7:26:07 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers

Maybe it’s a good strategy for you to post it and request same. You can’t post good knowledge too many times. Have at it, FRiend!


31 posted on 01/04/2013 8:49:36 PM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: Silentgypsy

Thanks. I will post it.


32 posted on 01/04/2013 9:05:49 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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