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At Sharpton Event, Girls Grill Hip-Hop Radio CEO: You ‘Play Music That Degrades Us’…
Cybercast News ^ | April 13, 2012 | Penny Star

Posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Two young ladies who are leaders in youth groups for Rev. Al Sharpton’s National Action Network (NAN) grilled a radio executive about his lucrative hip hop music programming, asking whether it was any different than drug dealers making money and why would the executive promote material that “degrades us and dumbs our African American people down just to make money?”

At the NAN convention in Washington, D.C., a panel discussion was held entitled “Media Race” that was led by MSNBC’s Rev. Al Sharpton, who founded NAN, and included Alfred C. Liggins III, the CEO of Radio One, the seventh largest radio network in the United States. …

After all the panelists spoke, the floor was opened for questions and the two young ladies approached the microphone: Victoria Pannell, 12, of New York City, who is the Northeast regional director of NAN’s Youth Movement, and Nialah Edari, 17, of Milwaukee, Wisc., who is the Midwest youth director for NAN.

Edari said, “Our question is directed toward Mr. Alfred [Liggins]. You said that your radio station plays rap music because it makes money, but drug dealers sell drugs. Does that necessarily make it right?”

Applause and hollering broke out in the audience, and then Pannell said, “And rap music creates negative stereotypes in our communities, so we just want to know would you rather play music that degrades us and dumbs our African American people down just to make money?”

That question also sparked loud cheering and applause. …

Liggins said if his company did not broadcast the baser hip hop music, “If we don’t highlight that artistry, somebody else will do it, and the audience wants it. People want to listen to it.” …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: devilsmusic; hiphop; misogyny; rapmusic
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At Sharpton Event, Girls Grill Hip-Hop Radio CEO: You ‘Play Music That Degrades Us,’ Dumbs Us Down, ‘Just To Make Money?'

The hip-hop hate-and-misogyny peddlers need to hear lots more of this. You won't hear too much of it from self-styled leftist "black leaders" though . . . Sharpton must've been caught off-guard. Liggins' reply is disgusting.
1 posted on 04/13/2012 8:39:53 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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... because “it feels good to be a gangster” sing Obama and Holder...


2 posted on 04/13/2012 8:49:49 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Olog-hai

... and because Trayvon spoiled rich boy of Zero felt good acting like a gangster whose misdeeds get repaired by Sharpton, Holder and Zero.


3 posted on 04/13/2012 8:53:54 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll

You must not be up on Ebonics. That’s ‘’gangsta’.


4 posted on 04/13/2012 9:18:12 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Olog-hai
I'm on the women's side in this "war on women". (Is their anything the Democrats accuse others of in which they themselves are not more guilty?)

Liggins said if his company did not broadcast the baser hip hop music, “If we don’t highlight that artistry, somebody else will do it, and the audience wants it. People want to listen to it.” …

This is the same argument filmmakers made in the 1980s and 90s about all the blood, nudity and sex in films. And then they discovered they could get a bigger audience, especially in foreign markets, by toning those very things down.

Total Recall 1990

Total Recal 2012

5 posted on 04/13/2012 9:19:47 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: JudgemAll
Damn it feels good to be a gangsta
6 posted on 04/13/2012 9:23:59 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

I doubt if Sharpton was very pleased with these two young ladies. He probably didn’t think they actually used their brians. Victoria Pannell, 12, of New York City, who is the (SOON TO BE FORMER) Northeast regional director of NAN’s Youth Movement, and Nialah Edari, 17, of Milwaukee, Wisc., who is the (SOON TO BE FORMER) Midwest youth director for NAN.


7 posted on 04/13/2012 9:24:18 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: jmacusa

A lady on a call in show here in Houston the other day said Sheila Jackson-Lee suffers from ebonic plague.


8 posted on 04/13/2012 9:29:53 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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To: Terry Mross

LOL!


9 posted on 04/13/2012 9:32:19 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Oh, that’s right, it’s difficult to match “the Eloquency of the Great One” . We’re not worthy, we’re not worthy. (sarc off)


10 posted on 04/13/2012 9:33:43 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Terry Mross

In the world of liberal PC, they will be seen as incapable of putting two music notes together... but not like putting notes together on a string is a genius of its own, but it is the heart behind it, and not like I ever liked what a liberal turd ever called great music, or the usurped and imposturation of music on horrible lyrics of death.


11 posted on 04/13/2012 9:38:16 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Olog-hai
When did we ever think that H Rapp Jackson was a rational spokesman for the cause compared to this dude?


12 posted on 04/13/2012 9:39:58 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
"Damn it feels good to be a gangsta"

I can't hear that without immediately thinking about this.


13 posted on 04/13/2012 9:43:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Olog-hai

“degrades us and dumbs our African American people down just to make money?”

I hate to break up a good hip-hop bashing, but most of their money is made off stupid white kids. Also, it doesn’t degrade black people, only certain black people. And anyone who extrapolates the hip-hop image to cover all black people—like you—is racist.


14 posted on 04/13/2012 9:46:06 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: dfwgator

Always makes me think about cleaning a fish in my cubicle.


15 posted on 04/13/2012 9:48:30 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Olog-hai

“degrades us and dumbs our African American people down just to make money?”
Were they talking about Sharpton?


16 posted on 04/13/2012 10:01:22 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: Olog-hai

These girls lead a group of Sharpton fans and they think the disc jockey is degrading blacks but not Al? While they have a point about the black rap(I don’t recognize hip hop)degrading blacks and women in particular, Sharpton degrades blacks every day in every way.


17 posted on 04/13/2012 10:29:51 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Olog-hai

One more thing, if blacks didn’t buy this disgusting music people couldn’t make money off of it. Can’t blame the people who play it, they wouldn’t play it if people weren’t buying it.


18 posted on 04/13/2012 10:31:47 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Tublecane
Don’t try to put words in my mouth. You take that issue up with the young girls who said exactly that. By such a railing, you make yourself look misogynistic—and racist to boot. Nobody made any assumptions in this thread, least of all me.

BTW, don’t think I didn't take note of who your handle references.
19 posted on 04/13/2012 10:33:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: calex59

Could be that they were inside a Trojan horse. If so, good for them for actually bringing some character into the fray.


20 posted on 04/13/2012 10:34:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Don’t try to put words in my mouth. You take that issue up with the young girls who said exactly that. By such a railing, you make yourself look misogynistic—and racist to boot. Nobody made any assumptions in this thread, least of all me.”

Wow, you must be looking to pick a fight. Have you started many threads? Let me fill you in on a little something: people tend to post a lot to the original poster. I do so whenever responding directly to the article. I was taking it up with the whoever I quoted. Not directly, of course, but for the edification of the FR community.

As for misogyny, no. Not even close. That’s a wild swing on you part, but it can’t compete with racist. Ha! I was specifically admonishing against racial stereotypes. Where do you fit me being racist into that? Or is it that I’m not allowed to address myself to black females ever without being misogynistic and racist. I guess so.

I really would love for youto demonstrate to me how I was being racist and misogynistic, though I doubt you could even if you tried.


21 posted on 04/13/2012 11:15:18 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Tublecane

Let me fill you in on a little something: people tend to post a lot to the original poster. I do so whenever responding directly to the article
It's possible to post while removing all handles from the "To" field. That way, I don't get the idea that you are addressing me by using personal pronouns.

Or is it that I’m not allowed to address myself to black females ever without being misogynistic and racist
Given the manner of your addressing, that characterization might be accurate in the first respect. The comments of the two young ladies had nothing to do with the buyers, but the sellers. Also, nowhere was all rap or hip-hop music so characterized by these young ladies; it'd certainly be folly to accuse "Rapper's Delight" or even "The Message" of "dumbing down" a whole community of people or promoting misogyny.
22 posted on 04/13/2012 11:23:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“It’s possible to post while removing all handles from the ‘To’ field.”

Possible, yes, but I post to the OP. That’s just how I do it.

“That way, I don’t get the idea that you are addressing me by using personal pronouns.”

Maybe you could not get that idea by noticing you didn’t write the quote which I took the time to cut and paste and to which I was addressing myself.

“Given the manner of your addressing”

Huh? What “manner”? Earlier you used “railing,” but I assure you it was typed in a calm and rational manner. I would accept droll or flippant, but nothing that young female black ears can’t hear.

Isn’t it funny, the many shades of interpretation of the tone of written words. But not that many. If you think the manner in which I wrote is inherently misogynistic/racist/other bad words, you know as much about interpreting manner as I know about quantum mechanics (I don’t know very much about quantum mechanics).

“The comments of the two young ladies had nothing to do with the buyers, but the sellers.”

In order to sell you have to have buyers, and I don’t think who’s buying is irrelevant. She was talking about it creating negative stereotypes in “our communities,” meaning black communities. But since white people do most of the buying—as is only natural for the dominant popular music genre in a majority white country—I’d worry more about the stereotypes it creates there.

Oh, and that has nothing to do with misogyny nor racism.

“Also, nowhere was all rap or hip-hop music so characterized by these young ladies”

Ugh, did I say it was? I wouldn’t even care if it was, by the way. That’s not something I’d bother to correct, exaggeration though it may be.

“it’d certainly be folly to accuse ‘Rapper’s Delight’ or even ‘The Message’ of ‘dumbing down’ a whole community of people or promoting misogyny.”

I’d have to check the lyrics, but let’s assume you’re right. Okay, but what does this do with what we were talking about? What phantom are you arguing with?


23 posted on 04/13/2012 11:41:49 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Olog-hai
At Sharpton Event, Girls Grill Hip-Hop Radio CEO: You ‘Play Music That Degrades Us’…

This is a Really Good Thing.

24 posted on 04/14/2012 12:23:02 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: Olog-hai

If they are sharp enough to figure this our, why do they listen to it/?


25 posted on 04/14/2012 12:40:05 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Talisker

I agree. The time for women to value their bodies is before they have unprotected sex and become pregnant, not after.

If this insight leads these young women to value themselves more in every way, beginning with their appearance by dressing with more modesty, society will be much better off.


26 posted on 04/14/2012 4:04:11 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

U would never see People take that stand today

Its all all black all queer now


27 posted on 04/14/2012 10:24:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Tublecane

High five Shaft!


28 posted on 04/14/2012 10:26:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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