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I dont believe the accusations against the Secret Service
CNN ^ | 4-14-12 | Dan Lothian

Posted on 04/14/2012 8:22:56 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer

The Secret Service is an honorable organization, willing to put up with abuse from Hillary and others while putting their lives at risk protecting them. I dont believe this story.

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Was this a way to get rid of a few agents that someone didnt like? I dont know for sure, but I respect the reputation of the Secret Service and this doesnt ring true. Maybe I am wrong...
1 posted on 04/14/2012 8:23:01 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Every organization is made of people, though, something we conservatives remember more often than the libs.

I can imagine the Secret Service being a place where it’s easy to feel above the law, because in so many cases, they basically are. Maybe it was hard for some of them to draw a line.


2 posted on 04/14/2012 8:25:46 AM PDT by Feline_AIDS (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Sh!t runs down hill?


3 posted on 04/14/2012 8:27:25 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Was this a way to get rid of a few agents that someone didnt like?

That's certainly possible.But having done some traveling in the Third World my first belief is that,after having looked around a bit,*no* guy could *possibly* be desperate enough,crazy enough,drunk enough to want to get within 50 feet of any local hooker.Hell,I would get within 50 feet of a *First* World hooker myself,but I guess that's just me.

4 posted on 04/14/2012 8:28:27 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: Feline_AIDS

I live in Mexico, when politicians from the USA visit the country, they are wined and dined, and party animals. The political enviroment in many Latin American countries is well known for lot’s of ladies, liquor and dancing floors. I wouldn’t want anyone’s reputation to suffer for standing up for Secret Service people who did what the politicians have always done.


5 posted on 04/14/2012 8:29:02 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Former MSM Viewer

You are BIGtime wrong! Every organization has been morally dumbdowned by the commie usurper. Big Sis is going to the bighouse for perjury, GSA head pleads 5th, DOJ Holder furious crap, Salazar ignoring court, etc etc. Why would some scumbag secret service be any different? The secret service is just a job now, nothing to do with Honor and Country.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 8:33:02 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I have known quite a few of them and most of them are really good guys who are honorable and serious about their jobs. I have also known a few who enjoyed their drink and had a wandering eye.

You can say the same thing throughout law enforcement, the courts, churches, boy scouts, the Amish, social services, banks, the CIA, the military, and any other organization that is composed of men and women.

I suspect the issue here is that one or a few compromised themselves (pretty serious given their mission) and the others did not do anything about it (also compromising the mission) but that is just speculation and I will wait to hear more.


7 posted on 04/14/2012 8:33:06 AM PDT by volunbeer (Don't worry America, our kids can pay for it!)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Unless being a Secret Service agent negates their humanity, making them either more human or less human, then they have the same strengths and failings as other human beings, and are able of the highest ideals and the basest instincts applicable to people. This means that while they are brave people sworn to protect the office of the presidency, are well trained and definitely well selected, they are still humans which means out of a given sample there will be those who would do bad/stupid things. Being a SService agent, just like being a cop or a soldier or a priest, doesn’t make one immune to sin, stupidity and senseless behaviour.


8 posted on 04/14/2012 8:36:57 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

The Black Panthers have been stumping for some good paying jobs. There are now some openings.


9 posted on 04/14/2012 8:37:27 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather ("We Need To Teach The Establishment a Lesson" - Newt Gingrich)
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To: x1stcav

E.E.O.C. hires


10 posted on 04/14/2012 8:39:03 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Around the time he was inaugurated, I heard that Obama brought some of his own Chicago thugs with him into the Secret Service. I haven’t heard any more about that, and I don’t know for sure whether it’s true, but I think it’s certainly possible.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 8:43:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: edcoil

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/12/michelle-obama-secret-affair-rumors-surface/


12 posted on 04/14/2012 8:44:43 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Maybe these 12 SS agents were intending to formally execute a subpoena for the Usurper to appear before a secret, federal grand jury...


13 posted on 04/14/2012 8:46:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: volunbeer

There are honorable people in the Secret Service.


14 posted on 04/14/2012 8:47:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Moving Secret Service from Treasury Dept. to Dept. of Homeland Security was a major error, IMO. We all know what an unmitigated disaster Homeland Security has been...


15 posted on 04/14/2012 8:49:05 AM PDT by donozark (We're ALL Greeks now...and possibly, quite soon, Portugese.)
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To: Rebelbase

honorable??? protecting a commie usurper who can’t pass a background check?


16 posted on 04/14/2012 8:50:05 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Former MSM Viewer

At worst, the Secret Service agents were acting like ordinary United Nations diplomats.


17 posted on 04/14/2012 8:50:38 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Over half of U.S. murders are of black people, and 90% of them are committed by other black people.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I would suggest an amendment to your statement thus: “the Secret Service WAS an honorable institution.”


18 posted on 04/14/2012 8:54:09 AM PDT by ricmc2175
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Honor and integrity flow from the top, and conversely, dishonor and corruption flow from the top too. It is likely these agents have seen the absolute corruption flowing from Zerobama and Mooch-el: his flaunting of the Constitution, their “do as I say and not as I do”, blowing huge sums of taxpayer money on ultra-luxurious vacations, extravagant White House parties for their Hollywood fat-cat supporters.


19 posted on 04/14/2012 8:54:12 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Obamanation--the most corrupt regime since Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Was this a way to get rid of a few agents that someone didnt like? I dont know for sure, but I respect the reputation of the Secret Service and this doesnt ring true. Maybe I am wrong...

When the Clintons wanted to get rid of SS agents who knew too much, they would just perish in mysteriously plane crashes.
20 posted on 04/14/2012 8:59:54 AM PDT by crosshairs (As long as there is evil, "Coexist" is impossible.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

Takes the heat off the GSA.


21 posted on 04/14/2012 9:04:48 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Former MSM Viewer

It would be more believable to me if they were claiming one or two agents were involved. The story as it is being told doesn’t ring true. There are bad apples in every group, hard to believe there would be that many in that group.


22 posted on 04/14/2012 9:08:16 AM PDT by Tammy8 (~Secure the border and deport all illegals- do it now! ~ Support our Troops!~)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

For this to be a hatchet job, there would have to be no evidence of someone breaching the secure area with the cooperation of at least one officer.

I don’t believe that to be the case. I think there was a security breach, and that the SS took their normal precautions when faced with a compromised unit - they replaced it.

The hooker part is just the reason why it’s juicy news being spread by the tabloid CNN. As for the accusations against others, the unauthorized visitor probably wasn’t logged, was let into a secure area by officers or the agent in charge, was probably seen by others in the unit, and probably wasn’t logged out of the secure area, all significant breaches of the security protocol.

The actual embarrassing part about it is being told by the local police that your security was compromised. It would have been one thing if this was discovered internally, that it came from an outside source means heads are going to roll as an example.


23 posted on 04/14/2012 9:12:39 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I don’t believe it either. To the best of my knowledge the SS is highly supervised and if they are out of the country guarding someone they are on duty 24/7. They rotate them in and out of hotels to sleep but thats about it. Its not like they get off at 5PM and just go off anywhere they please. I saw this article yesterday and I thought it was really fishy.


24 posted on 04/14/2012 9:13:13 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: biggredd1

Don’t be stupid and ignorant.


25 posted on 04/14/2012 9:15:07 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Former MSM Viewer

the Secret Service was moved out of Treasury and into the Department of Homeland Security.


26 posted on 04/14/2012 9:16:00 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: spetznaz
Being a SService agent, just like being a cop or a soldier or a priest, doesn’t make one immune to sin, stupidity and senseless behaviour.

It should, that's why these individuals are hand picked to protect the president of the U.S. It's one thing to expose one's self to contracting crabs or STD's via this alleged behavior as a businessman or tourist is likely to do but it's a totally different story when these individuals allow themselves to become susceptible to intelligence blackmail by foreign parties due to their actions.

27 posted on 04/14/2012 9:17:32 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I’m finding it hard to believe

the prices at the grocery store!


28 posted on 04/14/2012 9:21:04 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
This is not the first time SS agents have probably done this sort of thing.
Remember Kennedy’s detail had been out the night before Dallas in Fort Worth pretty much doing the same thing, Booze and Women. Most of those guys were out to 2 and 3am in the morning. They had a lack of sleep and some were hung over when the Dallas mess happened.
So this kind of stuff does happen from time to time.
29 posted on 04/14/2012 9:21:14 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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One agent didn’t want to pay the hotel a fee for a “guest” so Obama sends the whole lot of them packing home?

No I think his handlers made a suggestion to clean his house, that one or more of the agents were spying and reporting on Obamas activities and thus had to be removed immediately.

Thus why the urgency to replace the rolling cocoon of security? I think its because Obama is about to do something he does NOT want America to know about.

The house of Obama is a smoke filled room full of twisted and distorted mirrors, doors with passages to nowhere and booby trapped floors.


30 posted on 04/14/2012 9:21:55 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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... but I respect the reputation of the Secret Service and this doesnt ring true.

There are honorable people in the Secret Service.

They took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, didn't they?

You seem to forget their actions during Slick Willie's term when they were doing back flips to avoid testifying during Clinton's impending impeachment trial. Yeah, real stand-up guys.

And, responding to biggredd1 by saying, Don’t be stupid and ignorant,

really doesn't answer his assertion, does it?

31 posted on 04/14/2012 9:30:16 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: crosshairs

“When the Clintons wanted to get rid of SS agents who knew too much, they would just perish in mysteriously plane crashes.”

Or get killed in a “botched” ATF raid in Waco.


32 posted on 04/14/2012 9:37:48 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Corrupt leaders corrupt organizations. Expect no part of the federal government to be uncorrupted by the time the Obamanation is finished.
33 posted on 04/14/2012 9:43:30 AM PDT by Cheburashka (It's legal to be out at night in spacesuits, even carrying a rag dolly. Cops hauled us in anyway.)
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To: JohnG45

You are parroting cop haters who think the actions of some taint everyone.

If you ever had the chance to meet an honorable secret service agent who does his duty while holding the personal opinion that Obama is an arrogant prick you’d eat your words.


34 posted on 04/14/2012 9:52:43 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Former MSM Viewer

I believe them....in this day of Obama and his government minions, I’d believe almost any bad news about them.


35 posted on 04/14/2012 9:54:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kingu; Georgia Girl 2; ricmc2175; biggredd1; JohnG45

I am not willing to automatically accept the word of a Colombian hooker over the reputation of our Secret Service agents.

Or CNN, for that matter...

We need to let this play out before we believe first reports.


36 posted on 04/14/2012 9:55:42 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: Rebelbase

Understand your faith. However, I believe an honorable person would not serve evil, pure and simple. Tough choice to stand for your beliefs.


37 posted on 04/14/2012 9:57:10 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Rebelbase

that’s a stupid and ignorant answer.


38 posted on 04/14/2012 9:57:55 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Rebelbase

an arrogant prick? That’s mild compared to a commie usurper who has forged documents and cant pass a secret service background check. You need to grow a brain.


39 posted on 04/14/2012 9:59:55 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Former MSM Viewer

There are soon to be 12 disgruntled ex-SS agents. Could make things interesting going forward.


40 posted on 04/14/2012 10:04:05 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Generic observation to no one in particular...

The idiocy of some comments astound.


41 posted on 04/14/2012 10:05:29 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln (But that's just me.)
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To: biggredd1

By your insinuations the military is equally complicit in supporting a commie usurper.

Why not run your mouth indicting EVERYONE in the military?


42 posted on 04/14/2012 10:05:45 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Gaffer

This story is HUGE and will have legs! It broke friday and wont get going until monday. Diplomats were needed to get this resolved and many of the agents are married. It will blow open a lot of crap going on...


43 posted on 04/14/2012 10:07:03 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: Rebelbase

yes, there are some high ranking military that are involved in protecting the commie usurper. If you do some research you will know names. Hussein cant even pass the background check and secret service has allowed slimy visitors inside the white house.


44 posted on 04/14/2012 10:12:50 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: biggredd1

Let’s get back to your blanket statement:

” They took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, didn’t they? You seem to forget their actions during Slick Willie’s term when they were doing back flips to avoid testifying during Clinton’s impending impeachment trial. Yeah, real stand-up guys.”

You either smeared ALL Secret Service or implicated a select few.

Which is it?


45 posted on 04/14/2012 10:15:11 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

thats not my post, you cant even get that right. Here is one military general scumbag, karl horst....
http://colonel6.com/2011/08/25/the-court-martial-of-lt-col-terrence-lakin-was-fixed-by-gen-karl-horst-obot/


46 posted on 04/14/2012 10:19:59 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: biggredd1

“honorable??? protecting a commie usurper who can’t pass a background check?”

You either smeared ALL Secret Service or implicated a select few.

Which is it?


47 posted on 04/14/2012 10:23:54 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

yes, ALL of the secret service is now smeared [including some good ones] because many of them failed in their duty regarding a commie usurper, fraud and forger. There is a criminal investigation ongoing from sheriff arpaio but nothing from the secret service. Here is Horst and the commie hussein...
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/6Cbx0_MkLRY/Wreath+Laying+Tomb+Unknowns+Commemorates+Veterans/Kc1lVoRam1P/Karl+Horst


48 posted on 04/14/2012 10:29:57 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: biggredd1

Any organization whose name starts with Secret does not belong in America. Dictators have Secret Service not politicians supposedly serving the people......The military has become thoroughly politicized and corrupted, supporting the reason our founders wanted no standing land army.


49 posted on 04/14/2012 10:30:15 AM PDT by kneehurts
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To: kneehurts

What?!!!


50 posted on 04/14/2012 10:35:46 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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