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Taranto: Isn't It Romantic?
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 4/13/2012 | James Taranto

Posted on 04/15/2012 8:18:32 AM PDT by Bill C of BDroppings

At the same time, there is good reason for males (men as well as boys) to be more fearful of sex than females. Contemporary reproductive technology and law place all the burden for unwanted pregnancy on them. Between the pill and abortion, women have complete control over the reproductive process. They can avoid or end any unwanted pregnancy, and the man involved has no say in the matter. In Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), the U.S. Supreme Court went so far as to hold that a married woman has the constitutional right to abort her husband's child without even telling him.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: feminism; mensrights; waragainstboys
The government is trying to drive men out of the family. If you want men to be involved, if you want to discourage the scourge of single motherhood then you have to give men some control over reproduction.
1 posted on 04/15/2012 8:18:42 AM PDT by Bill C of BDroppings
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To: Bill C of BDroppings

Toronto is a nice city, but romantic?


2 posted on 04/15/2012 8:27:35 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6

UGH. :-)


3 posted on 04/15/2012 8:36:51 AM PDT by Bill C of BDroppings (bdroppings.blogspot.com)
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To: Bill C of BDroppings

I remember the first time......it was like that bombing campaign in Iraq......shock and awe and then the tanks rolled in.


4 posted on 04/15/2012 8:41:01 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Bill C of BDroppings

And don’t forget the Family Courts of America, where men are utterly destroyed in travesties of justice.


5 posted on 04/15/2012 8:53:16 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: Bill C of BDroppings

And women wonder why so many men are determined to stay single...


6 posted on 04/15/2012 8:53:54 AM PDT by spaced
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>>>... the man involved has no say in the matter.

Wrong. He can keep his knickers off the floor, or have a vasectomy.


7 posted on 04/15/2012 8:55:41 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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>>>Wrong. He can keep his knickers off the floor, or have a vasectomy.

Or wrap the rascal... bottom line: don’t indiscriminately sow seed.


8 posted on 04/15/2012 8:58:05 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Willard Romney, purveyor of the world's finest bullmitt. | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Bill C of BDroppings
"And it's possible that some of the boys in the survey, mindful of what Schalet quotes another sociologist as calling "the stigma of virginity," are rationalizing away their lack of success with girls by chalking it up to prudence."

In "the jungle" 10% of the men mate with 90% of the women. It's always been that way. It always will be.

That said I tell every young man when the subject arises: "Take your future into your own hands and put a rubber on".

The way family law works today it's insane to do otherwise. Same for marriage.

Insane.

9 posted on 04/15/2012 9:40:07 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Bill C of BDroppings
If you want men to be involved, if you want to discourage the scourge of single motherhood then you have to give men some control over reproduction.

Exactly how do you propose to give men "some control" over reproduction? I believe they already have it. It's called self-control.

As long as our culture worships death and non-reproductive sexual pleasure it's going to continue the slide into the abyss.

10 posted on 04/15/2012 9:42:10 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Bill C of BDroppings
then you have to give men some control over reproduction.

And what would "some control" be?

11 posted on 04/15/2012 9:45:33 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Bill C of BDroppings
At the same time, there is good reason for males (men as well as boys) to be more fearful of sex than females.

That won't stop 'em.

12 posted on 04/15/2012 10:37:11 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (For every black person murdered by a white, thirty-nine white people are murdered by blacks.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
the man involved has no say in the matter.

Wrong. He can keep his knickers off the floor, or have a vasectomy.

Absolutely! I never had an iota of interest in being a father and accordingly, I got a vasectomy. Worked for me.

13 posted on 04/15/2012 10:38:20 AM PDT by OldPossum
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Click

14 posted on 04/15/2012 10:50:13 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Bill C of BDroppings

The mass media’s hyping shows such as the Duggars, 16 & Pregnant ect ect also have an effect. Young teen girls love babies and if “they” can do it, why not us?

It’s good to see young men waking up against the religious kookery “be fruitful and multiply.” Empty words when its child support time.


15 posted on 04/15/2012 1:45:09 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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Religious kookery?

Procreating and rearing one’s offspring within marriage is a very conservative act.

Treating one’s body as a recreational playground is an unconservative act.


16 posted on 04/15/2012 4:48:18 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Valpal1

“Procreating and rearing one’s offspring within marriage is a very conservative act.”

Not when done by high school dropouts. If said yokels want to commence squirting out babies let their church, instead of the taxpayers, be on the hook for it. For 18 years.


17 posted on 04/15/2012 4:59:45 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke

Do you have a link, an address or phone number for these churches full of HS dropouts preaching this alleged message.

Perhaps you should visit a few more churches before presuming to speak to what they teach.


18 posted on 04/15/2012 7:06:07 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Keith in Iowa
Wrong. He can keep his knickers off the floor, or have a vasectomy.

So, this is your advice to married men whose wives abort the baby without telling him, or inform him after the fact? Don't have babies, abstain from sex with your wife or have a vasectomy and then she can never abort the baby? Wow, I would advise you not to ever try to become a psychologist or a marriage counselor.

The fact of the matter is men, whether married or single, have no control over what happens to the baby,if one comes along, but are 100% financially responsible for it, and sometimes when it isn't even their child.

19 posted on 04/15/2012 10:15:05 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Valpal1

The Churches doesn’t need to announce “you a knocked up high school drop out? - get free govt bennies.” Word spreads fast enough by word of mouth. Keep your preachments away from me and my family and keep your kook mitts off of my tax dollars and guns!


20 posted on 04/16/2012 4:43:13 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke

Your anti-religiosity is just another specious bigotry. Sorry you hate Christ and his followers so much.


21 posted on 04/16/2012 10:44:23 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: calex59
So, this is your advice to married men whose wives abort the baby without telling him, or inform him after the fact? Don't have babies, abstain from sex with your wife or have a vasectomy and then she can never abort the baby? Wow, I would advise you not to ever try to become a psychologist or a marriage counselor.

The fact of the matter is men, whether married or single, have no control over what happens to the baby,if one comes along, but are 100% financially responsible for it, and sometimes when it isn't even their child.

Very few wives have abortions without consultation with their spouse and I would posit in the few cases where such does happen, it is a symptom of an otherwise failing marriage.

Men may have very little legal power or control regarding the outcome of a pregnancy, but they have an enormous ability to affect the woman's decision simply by being willing to be responsible emotionally, morally and financially.

The law is only capable of enforcing one of those and poorly at that. If men wish to avoid financial responsibility of offspring, they must avoid bringing them into existence before the fact.

What power or control of the outcome of pregnancy could you possibly give men that would not involve the potential coercion of the woman?

Having been involved with Pregnancy Care Centers for two decades, I can tell you that majority of women seeking help are there because the father wants nothing to do with his progeny. The women are often seeking emotional support to stand up to those pressuring them to abort.

For men, control of procreation begins and ends with self-control. Acknowledging reality is the best way to get through life.

22 posted on 04/16/2012 11:05:36 AM PDT by Valpal1
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Since when is expressing disapproval of idiotic behavior of teens and the stealing of my tax dollars “anti-religious?” Newsflash - tithing ain’t compulsory and it sure isn’t legit when stolen from the government.


23 posted on 04/16/2012 3:02:54 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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