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Scientists Find Runes on Ancient Comb
The Local: Germany's news in English ^ | Friday, April 13, 2012 | unattributed

Posted on 04/16/2012 9:55:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Archaeologists have found the oldest engravings of letters ever to be discovered in central Germany, officials from the area announced on Thursday.

The ancient letters, called runes, were scratched onto a 12.5 centimetre-long comb by Germanic settlers in the second century, scientists working on the site in Saxony-Anhalt believe.

The letters spell out "Kama", meaning comb, the president of the state Heritage and Archaeology Management Office, Sven Ostritz, said on Thursday.

It is the oldest ever example of runic writing to be found in that part of the country, he added.

Germanic languages used the runic alphabet to write before the Latin alphabet became widespread. The earliest runic engravings have been dated back to 150AD.

Engravings from a similar period have been found in the Märkische Schweiz region near Berlin, and in western Ukraine, Ostritz revealed.

The comb, which is made from deer antler, was lifted out of its resting place nearly two metres below the ground several years ago. But it had been tucked away until recently, when scientists cleaned it off and put it under a microscope to examine the writing.

It had to be painstakingly re-assembled by the team though, as it was originally found broken into pieces. Historians have been working on the ancient Germanic settlement where the comb was found since 2002.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; germany; godsgravesglyphs; runes
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Scientists Find Runes on Ancient Comb

1 posted on 04/16/2012 9:56:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
One strand of an ancient story.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 9:58:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wouldn’t they have known it was a comb without having to write “comb” on it?


3 posted on 04/16/2012 9:58:32 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Defiant

“Wouldn’t they have known it was a comb without having to write “comb” on it?”

That was in case some occupants of the British Isles ever found it.


4 posted on 04/16/2012 10:04:36 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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To: Defiant

“Wouldn’t they have known it was a comb without having to write “comb” on it?”

That was in case some occupants of the British Isles ever found it.


5 posted on 04/16/2012 10:04:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for officeoffI)
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To: Defiant

Why do boxes of toothpicks have instructions?


6 posted on 04/16/2012 10:06:05 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: DesertRhino

LOL!


7 posted on 04/16/2012 10:06:40 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Why do boxes of toothpicks have instructions?

I don't know but they don't write "Toothpick" on the side of them.

8 posted on 04/16/2012 10:07:58 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: SunkenCiv

The comb is labeled “comb”? Is there a Trade Mark?


9 posted on 04/16/2012 10:10:45 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (nobody gives me warheads anyway))
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To: DesertRhino

There are some teeth missing too. “Kama” translated means “comb made in China”.


10 posted on 04/16/2012 10:11:24 PM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: DesertRhino
Or maybe it was the name of the inventor, Dieter Kama. He put his name on it, like Kleenex puts its name on the box. His invention became so popular among the previously unkempt Germanic tribes that they even started calling it the Kama, and that word has come down to us as "comb".

That makes sense now.

11 posted on 04/16/2012 10:12:02 PM PDT by Defiant (If there are infinite parallel universes, why Lord, am I living in the one with Obama as President?)
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To: Defiant

I’d buy that.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 10:17:03 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Reminds me of the scene in “Armed and Dangerous” with John Candy working security at the landfill. “Hey guys - I found a comb!”


13 posted on 04/16/2012 10:18:59 PM PDT by 21twelve
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To: Defiant
There are no toothpicks made in the USA.

When we did make them, they were made of Birch. Have no idea what kind of wood the Chicoms use to make them now.

I remember the old Looney Tunes Cartoon where they shaved down on whole Tree to make one toothpick. Nowadays, the same cartoon would be banished from Network TV so Al Gore wouldn’t have a Coronary.

14 posted on 04/16/2012 10:21:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (A day without Obama is like a day without a Tsunami.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Is it for brushing out pet fur? Because you might expect to find runes on a cat-a-comb.


15 posted on 04/16/2012 10:32:22 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Defiant
Wouldn’t they have known it was a comb without having to write “comb” on it?

There were other words. The entire sentence was, "Do not eat this comb or use it while climbing a ladder." Apparently, there had been a lawsuit..

16 posted on 04/16/2012 10:42:41 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SunkenCiv
A lot can come from combing the desert...


17 posted on 04/16/2012 10:52:30 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: rawcatslyentist

>>Why do boxes of toothpicks have instructions?<<

Wonko the Sane asked the same question until his predicable demise.


18 posted on 04/16/2012 10:54:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: Ramius
I’d buy that.

For a dollar?


19 posted on 04/16/2012 10:57:11 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ('RETRO' Abortions = performed on 84th trimester individuals who think killing babies is a "right.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Runes are interesting in that they are basically geometric indicating they were originally carved in wood.

Speculation is that runes were origianlly carved in wood that has since rotted away, makes historical determinations, such as age of the letter form and provence of origin, difficult to determine. Stone lasts longer and there do exist runic phrases carved in stele, but they are primarily in western Europe.

Interestingly enough, the magnificent marble temples that the ancient Greeks built exhibited in their structures an origin in wood, which was simply copied when carved out of marble. Parts of a building along the eaves, primarily dentil ranges, triglyphs and metopes, would have had structural purposes in a wooden edifice that did not carry over to a stone structure. The marble colums, which originally would have been wood, did serve as supports for the roof.


20 posted on 04/17/2012 12:03:28 AM PDT by SatinDoll (No Foreign Nationals as our President!)
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To: freedumb2003

Welcome to the asylum.


21 posted on 04/17/2012 12:21:21 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: SunkenCiv
Wonder how it got broken, since the tribesmen kept it in such a fine box? Also have to wonder if the empty rectangular hole in the box was for the matching brush...which also had runes for "brush" on it?

Really, that is a beautiful piece of work, that shows a lot of patience & craftsmanship, not just in the decoration, but especially in cutting & finishing the teeth so finely & uniformly.

I'd likely be lazy enough to use something less eloquent, but ready made...

...and more likely to trap a few of the fleas, lice, and other vermin creeping around in the scalp & beard.

22 posted on 04/17/2012 12:33:39 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: shove_it

I took it for granted...Southern Germany


23 posted on 04/17/2012 1:27:07 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SunkenCiv

They should look around its resting spot for the Barber’s Pole.


24 posted on 04/17/2012 1:37:41 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Full instructions for its use appear in the Kama Sutra.


25 posted on 04/17/2012 3:49:30 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yes, archaeologists are always digging up runes.


26 posted on 04/17/2012 3:52:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Hardraade

It’s the prototype. Maybe those circles have a little R in the middle of them?


27 posted on 04/17/2012 5:10:34 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Really, that is a beautiful piece of work, that shows a lot of patience & craftsmanship...

Indeed. A rendition of this comb would make a pretty nice gift. It looks very modern in its design.

28 posted on 04/17/2012 5:13:48 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (Meh.)
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To: Cvengr

If they don’t find it, that’s probably evidence for a pole shift.


29 posted on 04/17/2012 5:26:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Stalin implemented a Pole shift after WWII.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

:’)


30 posted on 04/17/2012 5:27:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TigersEye; Fresh Wind

LOL


31 posted on 04/17/2012 5:27:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Here's one of my many old standbys, relates to what SatinDoll wrote above:
In her Plato Prehistorian: 10,000 to 5000 B.C. Myth, Religion, Archaeology, Mary Settegast reproduces a table which shows four runic character sets; a is Upper Paleolithic (found among the cave paintings), b is Indus Valley script, c is Greek (western branch), and d is the Scandinavian runic alphabet.
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32 posted on 04/17/2012 5:31:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SatinDoll

Thanks, great comments.


33 posted on 04/17/2012 5:31:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Defiant; DesertRhino; rawcatslyentist; Hardraade; shove_it; Ramius; 21twelve; ...

BTW, the day after I posted this, I noticed one of my coworkers has a spoon in her office that has “SPOON” printed right on the handle.


34 posted on 04/19/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I hope it had a warning label on the other side listing all of the dangerous things you shouldn’t do with a spoon. ;^)


35 posted on 04/19/2012 2:54:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Spoon is an obscure town in China. It should have an R or L on it, too....for left handed and right handed people.


36 posted on 04/19/2012 4:22:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TigersEye; Sacajaweau

;’)


37 posted on 04/19/2012 7:31:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

That’s...uh...kinda’ weird.


38 posted on 04/19/2012 11:42:39 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SunkenCiv
Did they find the body?

The body of the guy who runed her comb?

(sorry, it's late and I couldn't resist)

39 posted on 04/19/2012 11:45:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the alphabets.


40 posted on 04/20/2012 7:36:09 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Dictator Baby-Doc Barack's obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Graewoulf

My pleasure.


41 posted on 04/20/2012 7:41:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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