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Obama Lawyer claims birth certificate is fake
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Posted on 04/17/2012 8:34:06 AM PDT by varmintman

All over the internet this morning, this is a link to a google search on 'obama lawyer birth certificate'.


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I don't see this anywhere on FR as of now, mods should remove this post if I've simply missed it somehow.
1 posted on 04/17/2012 8:34:19 AM PDT by varmintman
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She is legal counsel representing Obama’s re-election campaign, and argued then that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his qualifications under Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution to be on the New Jersey Democratic Party primary ballot.

From what I can see, the lawyer doesn't say anything about the veracity of the birth certificate, only that it's not required in New Jersey, so it's irrelevant to the issue. Am I reading that wrong?

2 posted on 04/17/2012 8:43:53 AM PDT by Kenton
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I don’t believe the lawyer admitted the BC was a fake.

The argument was a HYPOTHETICAL — “assuming the BC was a fake, Obama is still a natural born citizen because .....”

It’s not an admission the BC is fake, it’s just an argument that the Court doesn’t have to figure out, one way or the other, if the BC is fake.


3 posted on 04/17/2012 8:45:22 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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” only that it’s not required in New Jersey, so it’s irrelevant to the issue. Am I reading that wrong?”

No, you are reading it correctly.


4 posted on 04/17/2012 8:46:15 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (I will never vote for Romney. Ever.)
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I cannot find where the headline matches the statements in the story. When I look at the Google search, I see the most credible link is WND and that sure doesn’t say much.


5 posted on 04/17/2012 8:49:19 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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Seems to be a bit more to it than that...

Obama’s attorney Alexandra Hill admitted that there is no evidence that the birth certificate the White House put online is authentic and that it likely was “manufactured.”

6 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:03 AM PDT by varmintman
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She is legal counsel representing Obama’s re-election campaign, and argued then that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his qualifications under Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution to be on the New Jersey Democratic Party primary ballot.

Although this shouldn't be the case the simple 9and disgraceful) fact is that Osama Obama's name will not be absent from a *single* state's ballot this November and he won't be removed from office because of this.Not in 2012...2013...2016...or 2017.

7 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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According to TeaPartyTribune.com, attorney Alexandra Hill, of the Newark-based law firm Genova, Burn and Giantomasi, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery and made the absurd claim that, therefore, it cannot be used as evidence to confirm his lack of natural born citizenship status. She concluded her analysis of the online birth certificate arguing that it is “irrelevant to his placement on the ballot”.
 
more....
 
 
 
 

Look. I'm a proud birther. But I've come to accept that Barry Soetero himself could claim he forged the BC. He could admit to being born in Kenya, he could admit that he is NOT eligible to serve as POTUS, but so what?
 
He could say all this and more. And give the USA the finger and say: "What are ya gonna do about it"?
 
And the MSM, the SCOTUS and the leftists would all say; "NOTHING!! We love you Barack. We knew all this all along, and we didn't care then. And we don't care now."


8 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:47 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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She is legal counsel representing Obama’s re-election campaign, and argued then that New Jersey law does not require Obama to present a valid birth certificate to establish his qualifications under Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution to be on the New Jersey Democratic Party primary ballot.

Although this shouldn't be the case the simple (and disgraceful) fact is that Osama Obama's name will not be absent from a *single* state's ballot this November and he won't be removed from office because of this.Not in 2012...2013...2016...or 2017.

9 posted on 04/17/2012 8:52:54 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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Look. I'm a proud birther. But I've come to accept that Barry Soetero himself could claim he forged the BC. He could admit to being born in Kenya, he could admit that he is NOT eligible to serve as POTUS, but so what? He could say all this and more. And give the USA the finger and say: "What are ya gonna do about it"?

Exactly what *I've* been saying for a long time.Not even the SCOTUS would touch such a case with a ten foot pole.

10 posted on 04/17/2012 8:55:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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Might not be the case, see comments here
11 posted on 04/17/2012 8:56:09 AM PDT by dirtboy
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LOL, this nonsense again.

This is just more exaggerated conspiracy blather.


12 posted on 04/17/2012 8:57:25 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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I don't see this anywhere on FR

There is a good reason. Its crap.

13 posted on 04/17/2012 8:58:03 AM PDT by Raycpa
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What an absolute, total and completely misleading headline for this article. She is just arguing her position that it isn’t required (said the lawyer).

Wow. Just wow.


14 posted on 04/17/2012 9:03:41 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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IF that is the case, which I doubt, then a whole lot of people read the thing the wrong way.


15 posted on 04/17/2012 9:06:45 AM PDT by varmintman
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Just more proof the fix is in.

According to lawyers, you don’t have to be qualified to be placed on a ballot.

Our legal standards are below whale poop. The law is whatever they want it to be on any given day.

No wonder they place political hacks on the USSC to assure we do NOT let the Constitution get in the way of the ruling elite.

When we see how much lawyers, politicians, judges twist the law how fricken stupid must we be to keep electing more lawyers to be politicians and judges?

I vow to NEVER vote for any lawyer. How many are willing to do at least this little bit to help?


16 posted on 04/17/2012 9:11:14 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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The headline is idiocy. Lawyer said no such thing.

Read the story:

(Obama lawyer) Hill repeatedly explained to Judge Jeff S. Masin that, “We do not believe the president’s birth certificate is relevant to this case.”

Agreeing with Hill, Masin ruled in a written opinion the same day that New Jersey law does not require Obama to produce any proof he is eligible to be president in order to be placed on the primary ballot.

Noting that New Jersey law allows a nominating petition endorsing a particular person for president to be filed without the consent of the person endorsed, Masin said “There is no obligation upon the person endorsed to prove his or her qualification for office.”

This is a totally correct legal ruling. A nomination, filing or election can be challenged AFTER THE FACT, but there is no U.S. constitutional legal requirement for “proof” to be filed before an election can be held.

This is an excellent provision. Can you imagine every Dem county JP in the country ruling Ronald Reagan had not submitted “sufficient” proof of qualification?

Lawyer never said there was no BC. Conservatives should check facts before they believe every stupid internet post.


17 posted on 04/17/2012 9:11:48 AM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yep. I knew the fix was in when Chief Justice John Roberts (A Bush appointee!) swore in Obama (twice).

That is just one of the many reasons why I gave up on the SCOTUS years ago. I don’t give a care who is prez. The courts (even the Supremes) will always be liberal. I don’t see them as ever being pro-conservative.

Maybe I’ll be proven wrong if they overturn even some parts of Obama Care. But I don’t even see THAT happening..


18 posted on 04/17/2012 9:14:02 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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The leftist judges and socialist democrat frauds want to continue to play MAKE BELIEVE with obama’s eligibility fraud. BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SS CARD, DRAFT CARD all as phoney as a three dollar bill. We must take matters into our own hands and politically destroy this crowd come the November elections. Then go after the enablers. Much like the French underground went after the Nazi collaborators after the Nazi occupation of France
19 posted on 04/17/2012 9:17:33 AM PDT by spawn44
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The article states “Adding insult upon injury, Hill went on to contort reasoning further by implying that Obama needs only invoke his political popularity, not legal qualifications, in order to be a candidate.” This is the exact arguement my over educated cousin uses: “He was elected by the people so that makes him eligible.”

It appears they’re admitting it was a fake in case criminal charges are ever filed. They can say “We never intended to mislean anyone. We simply mis-posted.”


20 posted on 04/17/2012 9:17:44 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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