Skip to comments.Eve was unarmed. She wasn't wearing a hoody. She was murdered. Are you angry?
Posted on 04/17/2012 11:30:25 AM PDT by yank in the UK
I dont have to tell you Im not a racist; my life speaks for me. Yet, I will probably be called a racist because of this post.
I dont like what happened to Trayvon Martin and I dont claim to understand the frame of mind George Zimmerman was in when he fired his weapon. I dont know the whole story behind the story. None of us do, yet. But this I know: a kid is dead and his killer is being publicly executed. The state of Florida is investigating the killing more slowly than some think is necessary and the Panthers have a bounty on Zimmermans head. People are angry with Florida. But more than being angry with Florida, people are Outraged at what they believe to be death by Racial Profiling. Perhaps profiling was a factor in the killing of Trayvon, unfortunately profiling happens everyday. But it isnt a problem patented by one race. Its a problem in every race.
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The editing of the 911 tape is doing its intended job if you still believe Zimmerman was racially profiling the one who attacked him. Sheesh, some poeple need to get their facts straight.
I look forward to the day when people drop those kinds of disclaimers.
Who gives a rats @$$ if Zimmerman was profiling, taking the crime statistics into consideration, you’d be an idiot not to profile. It’s not profiling, it’s survival instinct, human nature.
“Violence is wrong, regardless of the reason behind it.”
Sorry, but that premise is wrong, Wrong, WRONG!
“Force may be met with force” was Roman law and still is law in America, according to SCOTUS.
Had the victim been armed, she could have at least sent a perp or three before her.
Satan needs the business.
I would like to thank whoever added the keywords. I was considering clicking the link to see if there really is a “very true” part. After reading the keywords, I’m not going to bother.
“I look forward to the day when people drop those kinds of disclaimers.”
I’ve dropped mine.
If you are evil, I hate you... no matter what color you are.
Who is the “Eve” in the title of the article?
Apparently you give a rat’s @$$. Otherwise, why would you make the suggestion in opposition to the evidence, and then get nasty with another freeper for pointing out the truth? It appears important to you for others to believe the lie that Zimmerman was profiling.
I think you’re supposed to go to some questionable blog to find out.
A precious Christian young woman, pre-med student over in North Carolina. She was from Georgia, attending college.
I wasn’t being nasty with another freeper, I was just speaking my mind. If it was perceived that way, then I’m sorry.
Hell, Jesse Jackson admits HE profiles based on race.
Few years ago was quoted saying at night when he’s in certain places going up stairways and someone’s coming towards him, he is relieved when he sees it’s a white person.
You’re freaking nuts if you don’t profile. Not when the fbi crime stats show that profiling makes perfect sense based on racial factors.
Anyone who listens to black rap all the time is a danger. That music has only one purpose, to get people angry. Angry at everything and everyone. It ain’t Billy Ocean.
The writer of this piece needs to go to a 4th grade writing class to review the use of capital letters.
Zimmerman claims Martin went for Zimmerman's gun. We don't know who's fingerprint is on the trigger.
One last thing about Eve one of her assailants testified that she asked them to pray with her before they killed her. Lets pray, she said. One of the ATM videos shows Eve in the backseat of her vehicle with her murderers, she has her hands in the air, a Be True bracelet is on her wrist. Her head is bowed in prayer.
“A precious Christian young woman, pre-med student over in North Carolina. She was from Georgia, attending college.”
Sadly, Eve Carson was murdered 3/5/08. Her two black assailants were charged on March 12. Yet Obama’s fabled “race speech” on March 18 made no mention of this tragedy, even though this was manifestly a “teachable moment.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/obama-race-speech-read-th_n_92077.html Candidate Obama clearly wasn’t going to risk antagonizing his base by reminding them of the disproportionate frequency of black-on-white, as opposed to white-on-black, murders.
> Violence is wrong, regardless of the reason behind it.
This statement could not be more false (or stupid).
When dealing with violent people you have to use violence.
They understand nothing else.
God gave you the right to defend yourself and he didn’t specify how or what means were acceptable or unacceptable.
Zimmermann's fingerprint(s) could be there from previous use of the gun.
However, if Martin's fingerprint(s) is/are on the gun, we can conclude that they were struggling over possession of the gun. That's the best we can do for lack of additional evidence.
Great point in your post #4. Without so-called profiling investigators would be abandoning their most important tool to solving crimes or thwarting likely criminals. So of course they will continue to “profile” by any other name.
One can profile without regard to race but by appearance, suspicious behavior, etc.
Forgot to add that one of the perps who killed Carson is shown in an ATM security camera photo as clearly wearing a hoodie (although this factoid did not come to public attention until well after Obama’s speech).
Smart people profile based on situation.
Lemme construct a scenario for you (yeah, I know that it's a strawman argument, but it was presented to me this way and I really agreed with it....).
It's after dark, you're at a walk-up ATM. You see a young black male, wearing a (gasp) hoodie and ghetto-bag pants. His hands are stuffed in his pockets. He's ambling up slowly towards you, looking around from side to side. What do you do?
Me, I get the heck out of there. Call me a racist for it.
Now, turn it around. You're at the same ATM. Same time. Same situation. Same black kid. Except THIS time, instead of thug-life clothing, he's wearing a neatly tailored suit. And instead of his hands jammed in his pockets, he's carrying a briefcase in one hand and an ATM card in the other. He's striding purposefully towards the ATM.
Would you even give him a second look, or a second thought?
Definitely get away from the first one.
I’d still eye the second one more than a white guy dressed in a suit. Just out of the pure crime stats I am far more likely to have trouble with a black person than a white person.
Now, to be fair, if I saw a white guy dressed like the first black guy you mentioned, dressed gangsta or street, I’d get the hell out of there as well. I would go so far if it was a woman or group of women dressed thugly and throwing off a bad vibe, I’d get out of there and be prepared for trouble. Nowadays you cannot trust anyone. Even young punks go after bigger people if they are armed.
In the end, it really does more boil down to visual and body language more than race. If you have someone who looks like trouble and walking like trouble, be it black, hispanic, asian, or white, common sense says to avoid them if possible and raise your awareness in case you need to defend yourself.
And today the tables are flipped unequally.
White guy in a wrong neighborhood at night gets beaten up or killed, people say “what’d he expect, he shouldn’t be in that neighborhood at night”.
However, black thugs roaming around YOUR neighborhood at night, if they get shot busting into a home, they have the Trayvon Martin defenders out there squaking about racism and profiling and we have to disarm white people so our thug black people can terrorize you where you live and be able to steal, rape and murder you in safety.
Exactly, and they guy I was talking to (who presented these points to me) made the same secondary argument. It's the situation, not the color of person's skin. I expect there are plenty of people - including some on FR - who would say "Hey! Don't judge me! I have the right to wear what I want, whenever I want", etc etc etc, bend that argument however you'd like...
For which my attitude is that if you don't want to be judged like a thug, don't act or dress like one. Trayvon, the kid who started this whole mess, was dressed the part, he was behaving suspiciously, and he was in an area where he didn't usually frequent. Now did he deserve to get shot for that? Nope, and I think Zimmerman should at least be vetted (IMO, the police already did that, but that's just my opinion) for his actions.
However, if I see an unfamiliar kid - black or no - dressed the part of a thug and wandering aimlessly in the rain in my neighborhood - I'm going to check him out, too. Or give 911 a call and ask the local cops to check on him.
That's just the kind of paranoid guy I am, though. I (like you) also keep an eye on others who approach me while I'm at an ATM. :-)
Those who say they don't engage in it are: a) truly naive, b) morons, or c) liars.
This marxist maggot in the WhiteHut and his racist fellow travelers have had as much success boosting profiling as they have with gun sales.
If you're out in public - esp. urban public - and your head's not a swivel, you're a fool AND a target.
If I see a white lad with his head shaved, wearing track suit pants and a Liverpool top, and walking towards me at an ATM, I would probably be just as frightened of him as I would a black thug with gold teeth wearing a hoodie, does that make me racist for profiling? Frankly I couldn’t care less, it means my survival skills are in tact.
There is a stark difference.. it is what I would now refer to as an “Opportunistic Death”. The death does not matter much to the Revs, it is the opportunity that matters.