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Forest Service in quandary about Colo. frozen cows
AP via Comcast ^ | 4/18/2012 | Steven K. Paulson AP

Posted on 04/18/2012 11:08:06 AM PDT by TheRealDBear

DENVER — It may take explosives to dislodge a group of cows that wandered into an old ranger cabin high in the Rocky Mountains, then died and froze solid when they couldn't get out.

The carcasses were discovered by two Air Force Academy cadets when they snow-shoed up to the cabin in late March. Rangers believe the animals sought shelter during a snowstorm and got stuck and weren't smart enough to find their way out.

The cabin is located near the Conundrum Hot Springs, a nine-mile hike from the Aspen area in the Maroon Bells-Snowmass Wilderness area.

Michael Carroll, a spokesman for the Wilderness Society in Colorado, said cattle are often allowed to wander on federal wilderness lands as long as ranchers get a permit from the Forest Service, and sometimes the animals get separated from the herd.

The Forest Service said Tuesday the animals came from a herd of 29 cows that went missing last fall from the nearby Gunnison National Forest where the rancher had a permit. An aerial search failed to turn up any sign of the animals.

Forest Service spokesman Brian Porter said rangers saw about six cows inside the cabin, and several dead cows lying around the building.

"There is a lot of snow, and it's hard to determine how many cows are there," Porter said.

U.S. Forest Service spokesman Steve Segin said Tuesday they need to decide quickly how to get rid of the carcasses.

"Obviously, time is of the essence because we don't want them defrosting," Segin said.

Segin said officials are concerned about water contamination in the nearby hot springs if the cows start decomposing during the thaw.

The options: use explosives to break up the cows, burn down the cabin, or using a helicopters or trucks to haul out the carcasses.

But Segin said using helicopters is too expensive and rangers are worried about using trucks in a wilderness area, where the government bars permanent improvements and tries to preserve the natural habitat.

Carroll praised the Forest Service for trying to remove the animals while doing the least damage. He said burning down the cabin or packing out the carcasses are probably the best solutions.

"They need to use the minimal tool to get the job done. They don't want to leave the land scarred," he said.

Segin said the Forest Service occasionally uses explosives to destroy carcasses of animals that can't be retrieved.

"We've used them as a means of disposal to remove dead horses, elk and other animals in areas where it's impossible to get them out," he said.


TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: colorado; cows; forestservice
ok, they're worried about water contamination if they leave the cows to decompose. So they want to blow them up?

Anyone want some sacred cow burgers?

1 posted on 04/18/2012 11:08:09 AM PDT by TheRealDBear
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To: TheRealDBear

Cowpops!


2 posted on 04/18/2012 11:11:32 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: TheRealDBear

They could use a catapult!


3 posted on 04/18/2012 11:12:55 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: TheRealDBear

Nuke the cows!


4 posted on 04/18/2012 11:13:58 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: TheRealDBear
Remember the dead whale on the beach that authorities tried to blow up? Seems like that didn't work so well. Video
5 posted on 04/18/2012 11:14:33 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

You beat me to it!


6 posted on 04/18/2012 11:16:37 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: TheRealDBear

Sometimes they use explosives to break up penguins on the telly.


7 posted on 04/18/2012 11:17:28 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: TheRealDBear

Sawzall the entry door a bit wider and winch the critters outside.

Dig a big hole and throw in a cord of firewood. Light it up.

When the fire is dying down to coals, throw the critters in.

Cover the critters and coals with wet applewood and dirt.

12 hours later, uncover and invite the neighborhood.


8 posted on 04/18/2012 11:21:45 AM PDT by lurk
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To: TheRealDBear

Please invite Dave Barry to the explosion so he can write a story about it the way he did the whale. Beyond funny...way beyond funny.


9 posted on 04/18/2012 11:22:27 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: caver

20 cases of Febreeze!


10 posted on 04/18/2012 11:22:40 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: TheRealDBear

Don’t they have any Grizzly bears?


11 posted on 04/18/2012 11:22:52 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: TheRealDBear

New way of meat packing ;^)


12 posted on 04/18/2012 11:23:16 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: caver

Where are we going to find some English k-niggets to launch them at?


13 posted on 04/18/2012 11:24:23 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (The only thing a straight white man gets in this country is the blame for everything.)
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To: TheRealDBear
"...and weren't smart enough to find their way out."

That's going to piss off the PETA kids. Cows are smarter than we are.

14 posted on 04/18/2012 11:33:47 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time for the 47% to start paying their "fair share" of income taxes. Hypocrites!)
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To: TheRealDBear

15 posted on 04/18/2012 11:49:55 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: TheRealDBear
Answer: BARBEQUE!!!!!!!!......
16 posted on 04/18/2012 11:53:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: TheRealDBear

Frigging moroons!

Take up a chainsaw and cut em up. How freaking hard is that. If they are frozen then it’s no big deal. Sheesh.
Cut em up and spread the pieces and parts for the wildlife.
Cats and Black Bear and magpies will have a feast.

Why is it Government ALWAYS does Shiat the most expensive and time comsuming way.


17 posted on 04/18/2012 11:54:27 AM PDT by VRWCarea51
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To: caver

Wouldn’t that be a cowapult?.............


18 posted on 04/18/2012 11:55:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: VRWCarea51

Use of a chainsaw would dirty the uniforms of our overlords. Not to mention the damage to the shine on their jackboots caused by the flying bits of cow sawdust (cow chips seems misleading in this context) flying out of the chainsaw.


19 posted on 04/18/2012 12:04:27 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: VRWCarea51

Maroons is right!

Also consider - the cows got in there, there was no “cow” food in there, they are no bigger than when they walked in (they weren’t magically transported into the cabin) - get a horse and a rope and drag ‘em out through the same opening they used to get in there in the first place.

Such a problem! Country boys deal with stuff like this on a daily basis, but government workers and green-weinies have to make a federal case out of it!


20 posted on 04/18/2012 12:15:12 PM PDT by GilesB
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To: Red Badger

Hahahahaha!


21 posted on 04/18/2012 12:20:03 PM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: GreenHornet

I agree. I say they take off and nuke the site from orbit.

It’s the only way to be sure.


22 posted on 04/18/2012 12:23:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: TheRealDBear

This year the Donners will have a proper paaaartayyyy! “Bring all your friends! And return home with them as well!”


23 posted on 04/18/2012 12:25:40 PM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: TheRealDBear

I was the ranger there in ‘87. They couldn’t get trucks there unless some things have changed. One thing that has changed is that there is a ranger cabin there. When I was there there was just the ruins of a mining camp.


24 posted on 04/18/2012 12:28:36 PM PDT by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: lurk

Your solution makes too much sense.

Since it is uncle sugar at work here, it will be the most expensive, time consuming and non sensical solution possible.

Back on the old days, the forestry guys would have done it your way and kept quiet. and well fed.


25 posted on 04/18/2012 12:31:40 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: TheRealDBear

I have a freezer full of frozen cows.


26 posted on 04/18/2012 12:50:35 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: TheRealDBear

27 posted on 04/18/2012 12:52:08 PM PDT by equaviator
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To: lurk
You solution would probably cost less than 5 grand or so.
Don't you know this is a GOVERNMENT project. There is no way they can dispose of the cow carcases for less than two or three million. The problem is they will have keep the cows frozen for the next two or three years so they can do a study on the Safe Disposal of Cow Carcases. Then they can do what you said except, feed the neighborhood. That would require another study.
28 posted on 04/18/2012 12:56:37 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: TheRealDBear

I have an old photo of frozen cows in NE New Mexico from the 1950s. You can see Mount Capulin Volcano in the background. We lived south of there at Gladstone.


29 posted on 04/18/2012 2:13:04 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: equaviator
Photobucket
30 posted on 04/18/2012 5:16:31 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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