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Hawks' Quenneville fined $10,000 for remarks
Chicago Tribune ^ | 5:01 p.m. CDT, April 19, 2012 | Chris Kuc

Posted on 04/19/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by RitchieAprile

Chicago Blackhawks coach Joel Quenneville paid the price Thursday for criticizing officials after Game 3 of the Western Conference quarterfinals.

After the officials failed to call a penalty on the Coyotes' Raffi Torres following the winger's hit on the Hawks' Marian Hossa that sent Hossa to the hospital during the first period Tuesday night, Quenneville said: "I saw exactly what happened, it was right in front of me and all four (officials) missed it, The refereeing tonight was a disgrace."

The NHL lowered the boom on Quenneville, fining the coach $10,000 "for public comments critical of the officiating."

A day after the incident, Quenneville was asked during a news conference if he was worried he'd draw a fine for his comments and replied, "I don't think I said anything bad. I was just answering the question."

Torres has been suspended indefinitely pending a Friday hearing with NHL disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan for the hit.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: chicago; hockey; nhl

1 posted on 04/19/2012 3:26:00 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

Officials should be just as accountable for missed or bad calls. I hope he appeals the fine.


2 posted on 04/19/2012 3:29:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: RitchieAprile

Are the refs being fined for the horrible lack of call? The hit was blatant and horrible, and the refs should be held responsible, too. And I’m an old-school hockey fan. I like the fights. But I don’t like dirty players and dirty hits, and that was a dirty, dirty hit.


3 posted on 04/19/2012 3:38:32 PM PDT by USMCWife6869
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To: RitchieAprile

It will be interesting to hear Grape’s perspective on this
on Saturday’s edition of HNIC.


4 posted on 04/19/2012 3:40:59 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

Doesn’t the fact that Torres is suspended indefinitely—yet he did not receive a penalty—prove that Quenneville was right in his remarks?


5 posted on 04/19/2012 3:42:19 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: Charles Henrickson

The fine isn’t the league disagreeing with him, the fine is saying don’t air family business to the public. As far as I know all the leagues have issued fines to coaches for criticizing officiating in public, even when other league action shows they agree with what he said.


6 posted on 04/19/2012 3:45:01 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: discostu

Then fine him $1. ;^)


7 posted on 04/19/2012 3:49:21 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: RitchieAprile

Is it my imagination or has the violence/brawls/penalty minutes skyrocketed in the NHL playoffs this year?


8 posted on 04/19/2012 3:51:13 PM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: USMCWife6869
The Blackhawks were robbed, of what should have been called, a 10 minute major penalty....Which would have had the Hawks on a powerplay for 10 minutes....The hawks could have scored a goal or two or three during that powerplay that never happened because the refs and linemen misses the call. One, Torres skates left the ice and...two, Torres hit Hossa in the head. During the first game the one of the Hawk players (Shaw) hit the Phoenix goalie in the head and receives a game misconduct plus a 10 minute major penalty, which one goal was scored, and was suspended for three games. The refs and linesmen should all be fined and suspended for missing that call. Did I mention I'm from Chicago.
9 posted on 04/19/2012 3:54:10 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Sheesh, gets fined for telling the truth. Looked like coach Q’s head was going to explode. Torres left his feet and his shoulder made contact with Hossa’s head, Hossa didn’t have the puck. The ref’s swallowed their whistles. I thought the league wanted to curtail this kind of play.
Obviously it was payback for Shaws brushing Yotes goalie Smith, who then went down like he was shot. He should have been given an embellishment penalty instead of Shaw getting a penalty and suspension. Makes me wonder if they want this type of game played for the playoffs, with all the crap allowed in the other series also.


10 posted on 04/19/2012 3:54:34 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: Charles Henrickson

It’s not a courtesy rule, it’s bad for the league to have coaches yapping about the refs in press conferences. Everybody knows the refs miss calls, everybody knows the refs missed that call (guy leaves on a stretcher, nobody goes in the box, yup that’s a missed call), there’s nothing to be gained complaining about it to the press. That’s why the league has a punishment policy that can fine and suspend players even if there wasn’t a penalty called on the ice, because everybody knows refs miss calls. And Q’s been around the league long enough he knows all that, he stuck his foot in it anyway, now he’s fined. Of course given coaching paychecks 10 G ain’t that much.


11 posted on 04/19/2012 3:55:58 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: discostu

It seems like a conflict of interest since the league owns the Coyotes. It would behoove them to give Phoenix the edge with calls so they can advance in the playoffs, drum up interest in the franchise, and have someone take them off of their hands.


12 posted on 04/19/2012 4:06:42 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: USMCWife6869

The NHL once publicly reprimanded a referee for blowing a call in the playoffs back in the 1990s, and may have even fined him a substantial amount of money. I think it was Andy van Hellemond, who later became the league’s director of officiating (ironically).


13 posted on 04/19/2012 4:41:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Beave Meister
I don't know if I've ever seen a "10 minute major penalty" in the NHL. I would think you'd have to kill someone on the ice to get that.

A five-minute major and a match penalty for intent to injure is about the most serious penalty a referee would assess in response to an offense on the ice.

14 posted on 04/19/2012 4:47:28 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child

You’re sooooooo correct. Can’t believe I said that.


15 posted on 04/19/2012 5:18:33 PM PDT by Beave Meister (Die Hard Cubs Fan.....if it takes forever.)
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To: dznutz

That does put some perspective on why Raffi made the contact. The treatment of goaltenders had become somewhat more cavalier of late. It seems that goaltender interference isn’t called at all.


16 posted on 04/19/2012 5:36:29 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: discostu

JQ has quite the temper and a way with eff bombs.


17 posted on 04/19/2012 5:39:21 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: RitchieAprile

Proof that hockey is contrary to American values. Let’s organize a nationwide ban of the ‘sport’ and send it back to Canada, Russia, and other totalitarian states.


18 posted on 04/19/2012 5:54:40 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: RitchieAprile

The contact Shaw made with Smith did not look serious, Shaw was skating behind net trying to get to the puck and his shoulder made contact with Smith, Shaw didn’t go out of his way to hit him. Smith threw his hands up and fell backwards, embellishment. Smith finished the game, no injuries. They didn’t let Smith practice after that, until the league announced Shaw would get 3 game suspension, then all of a sudden Smith is going to start (Tues. game). Then they have the nerve to call the Torres hit a “hockey play.” Sometimes I feel like these games are fixed with the calls/no calls.


19 posted on 04/19/2012 7:02:38 PM PDT by dznutz
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To: dznutz

Maybe if Q was the first coach the NHL had fined for that it would. But he’s not. I doubt he’s even the first this year. And the league did suspend the hitter.


20 posted on 04/20/2012 7:42:08 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: Beave Meister; Alberta's Child
I'm a long time hockey referee.

They could assess a 10 minute misconduct penalty...look at Sunday's Pitt/Philly game, there were 3 assessed.

But in the event that a 10 minute misconduct penalty is given that team may substitute for the penalized player immediately. That is why when refs give a misconduct penatly, it's always in conjuction with another minor/major penalty. So, for example, the player is given a "2 and a 10".

Oh and as an aside...Torres is a dirty SOB. I personally am of the opinion that if a player is suspended due to an egregious hit that results in injury, the player should be suspended until the injured player returns. So, for instance, Steve Bertuzzi should have never played again after breaking Steve Moore's neck. I believe THAT would stop the head hunting.

21 posted on 04/20/2012 7:53:46 AM PDT by Axeslinger (Where has my country gone?)
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To: Axeslinger
Right. I don't know why an official would even bother giving a ten-minute misconduct in a situation like that. I would think the normal approach to that type of violent episode would be a 5-minute major and a game misconduct.

I think your approach about suspensions for violence resulting in injuries coinciding with the duration of the injury for the player who has been targeted, but I'm not so sure this is a good idea. For one thing, you start to get into an area where the "parity" of the players comes into play. If my team has a fourth-line journeyman who is injured by a star player from a close division rival and the opposing player gets suspended, I actually have a vested interest in keeping my player out of action for as long as possible. Secondly, you'd always have to account for mitigating circumstances where the severity of an injury could be exacerbated by one or more factors that are completely out of the aggressor's control.

To me, the NHL Players Association needs to get out in front of this issue and support actions by the NHL that would help protect the players. Part of the problem here is that disciplinary action is limited by provisions of the league's collective bargaining agreement with the NHLPA.

I also find myself wondering why this seems to have become a much more serious problem in recent years. What are some of the contributing factors here? Are players really that much more violent on the ice today than they were 20-30 years ago?

22 posted on 04/20/2012 6:02:41 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: RitchieAprile

I saw that hit. It’s disgraceful.


23 posted on 04/21/2012 1:36:16 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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To: RitchieAprile

Sounds like my man Tortorella!


24 posted on 04/21/2012 1:38:52 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (I love you so much,Pumpkin. You're the best cat in the world.)
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