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4 Quadrupole Magnetic Shift in Sun Mimics Mini Ice Ages
Mainichi News Japan ^ | 4/20/2012 | Mainichi News

Posted on 04/20/2012 11:38:07 AM PDT by struggle

Apparently, the magnetic shifts in the Sun mimic those that occurred during the mini-Ice Ages of the 17th century, reports the Japanese Astronomical society. They also claim that this is the reason for the "halting" in the progress of global warming. Basically the sun's magnetic field has shifted from a straight N-S configuration -



to a N-Equator Equator-S, 4 pole configuration



This supposedly occurred during the 17/18th century and was responsible for the mini Ice Age.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; Weather; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; japan; magneticshifts; miniiceage; science; sun
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Interesting stuff. Loose translation by me.
1 posted on 04/20/2012 11:38:18 AM PDT by struggle
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To: struggle

Cool, if true.


2 posted on 04/20/2012 11:41:35 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: struggle

The sun doesn’t have a simple north south magnetic pole. It has literally hundreds of constantly shifting poles.


3 posted on 04/20/2012 11:41:49 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: struggle

The upshot is that the warmingistas are gonna seize on this report and declare that AGW is still alive and well and will return in spades once this phenomena fades. I see it now: “Don’t be lulled into a false sense of security! We will abandon our efforts at the peril of future generations!”


4 posted on 04/20/2012 11:43:25 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: cripplecreek

>>It has literally hundreds of constantly shifting poles.

Kind of like Warsaw.


5 posted on 04/20/2012 11:44:26 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: struggle

You do not understand. As a Dr of Cretinology Grad from the Al Gore School of advanced idiocy (located in a dumbsteer adjacent to the Gore mansion), I state without doubt that you morons have it backwards...global warming caused the sun’s magnetic field to go into a phase of self-oscillation that will quickly result in the earth warming at a rate of 1 degree per hour.

We’re doomed, we’re doomed.

And any doubters must be stupid.

I have spoken!

/s


6 posted on 04/20/2012 11:44:36 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: struggle

You do not understand. As a Dr of Cretinology Grad from the Al Gore School of advanced idiocy (located in a dumbsteer adjacent to the Gore mansion), I state without doubt that you morons have it backwards...global warming caused the sun’s magnetic field to go into a phase of self-oscillation that will quickly result in the earth warming at a rate of 1 degree per hour.

We’re doomed, we’re doomed.

And any doubters must be stupid.

I have spoken!

/s


7 posted on 04/20/2012 11:44:55 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: struggle

Sun had a big solar flare a couple of days ago. Video here:

http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/nasa-captures-coronal-mass-ejection-from-the-sun-20120417/


8 posted on 04/20/2012 11:48:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Da Coyote

I need a grant to study this.


9 posted on 04/20/2012 11:50:14 AM PDT by steve8714 (The answer, surprisingly, is Carnahan.)
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To: alancarp
And college professors will be demanding huge government grants to study how to change the sun's magnetic field back and keep it there forever.

Lest you think this is a joke, be advised that many AGWish professors have been studying, at tremendous expense, how to turn the oceans into the a "carbon trap," thereby reducing the carbon in the atmosphere and stopping or reversing the man-induced warming.

That includes my former graduate school advisor, once a very respectable scientist. Hundreds of thousands per year, several graduate students, and a budget that allows him to galavant around the globe to all the Global Warming technical conferences.

10 posted on 04/20/2012 11:54:04 AM PDT by tom h
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To: struggle

How did they determine the Sun’s magnetic poles in the 17th century?


11 posted on 04/20/2012 11:54:04 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: struggle
Apparently, the magnetic shifts in the Sun mimic those that occurred during the mini-Ice Ages of the 17th century

So who was it that was tracking the sun's magnetic shifts in the 17th century?

12 posted on 04/20/2012 12:02:45 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: struggle

Now that’s funny!


13 posted on 04/20/2012 12:09:18 PM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
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To: DBrow
"How did they determine the Sun’s magnetic poles in the 17th century?"

Stop looking behind the curtain!

14 posted on 04/20/2012 12:10:25 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

“Stop looking behind the curtain!”

I just finished my paper on 15th century shark migration off West Africa, and so I’m looking for another research project, and a grant. And a line-item carveout, with travel plus per diem. Life is tough.


15 posted on 04/20/2012 12:14:00 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow; MEGoody
>過去の太陽の観測結果を調べたところ、黒点の増減周期や磁場構造が、地球が寒冷期だった17〜18世紀と酷似していた。 In comparison to astrological observations done in the past, sunspot size observations and magnetic reorganizations indicate a status somewhat like the 17th and 18th centuries. That's the furthest the article goes in explanation of.
16 posted on 04/20/2012 12:17:48 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: tom h

Unfortunately, I wasn’t kidding. You can’t laugh at this stuff — way too many morons chasing dollars in the name of ‘science’ with the intent on suppressing capitalism... especially ours.


17 posted on 04/20/2012 12:20:54 PM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: zot; SeraphimApprentice; Interesting Times

Beware of shifty Poles.


18 posted on 04/20/2012 12:23:06 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: struggle

That’s just what I was saying the other day.


19 posted on 04/20/2012 12:24:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: DBrow

They did a lot of stuff in the Edo period.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_period

Times were odd then. If you examine the ink prints from that time, several oddities are noteworthy.

1) Lots o’ demons. Yep, up to their eyebrows in demons of all varieties. Often recognizable because they had their tongues sticking out.

2) Enormous genitalia. Both men and women had genitals about 10 times larger than modern men and women. It is not known why.

3) Tea ceremonies. Often lasting for years, this was preferential as something, anything other than just listening to the continual rain.


20 posted on 04/20/2012 12:27:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("It is already like a government job," he said, "but with goats." -- Iranian goat smuggler)
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To: Paladin2

LOL, good one!


21 posted on 04/20/2012 12:42:59 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: DBrow
Shift in dominant sun spot activity to the equatorial regions.
22 posted on 04/20/2012 12:46:18 PM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: struggle

If the Japanese keep sticking those wires into the sun, there’s gonna be a problem.


23 posted on 04/20/2012 1:11:37 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MEGoody

Didn`t you know that Japanese emperor-gods lived on the sun?
They know all this stuff thousands of years ago coz they been there, done that.

``According to mythology, Japan’s first Emperor Jimmu, a descendant of the Sun Goddess Amaterasu, was enthroned in the year 660 BC. ``

www.japan-guide.com/e/e2135.html


24 posted on 04/20/2012 1:38:37 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Empire of the Rising Sun?? Who knew?)
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To: 2001convSVT

Somewhere in the past few years I remember reading about a long term cycle that reflected a shift in the latitude of the dominant sun spot activity. If I remember correctly it also was an indication of north/south pole swap on the sun.


25 posted on 04/20/2012 2:00:34 PM PDT by Techster
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To: Techster

Should have done my homework, the flip takes place each 11 year sun spot cycle.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/


26 posted on 04/20/2012 2:08:07 PM PDT by Techster
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To: Da Coyote
You forgot the words most holy!

Cash, or credit, all checks payable to cash!

27 posted on 04/20/2012 2:10:23 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: GreyFriar

No one even knew the sun has a magnetic field that far back.

George Ellery Hale discovered the sun has a magnetic field in 1908.


28 posted on 04/20/2012 3:14:39 PM PDT by zot
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To: struggle

Wait a minute, you’re telling me the sun causes global warming? I’ll be darned.


29 posted on 04/20/2012 3:44:39 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Still a contributing Republican? Why?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel

Thanks struggle. Solar Pole shift ping.


30 posted on 04/20/2012 3:57:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks struggle.


Thanks .




31 posted on 04/20/2012 3:58:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks struggle.

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32 posted on 04/20/2012 3:58:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks struggle. An “extra, extra” ping to the APoD list members.


33 posted on 04/20/2012 4:02:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: struggle
This supposedly occurred during the 17/18th century and was responsible for the mini Ice Age.

How in the world would they know this? Oh...SUPPOSEDLY. They guess.

34 posted on 04/20/2012 4:11:36 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: DBrow

Those sharks are still swimming along the slave trade route between Africa and America waiting for bodies to be thrown overboard.


35 posted on 04/20/2012 4:14:11 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: SunkenCiv

But the models, that's where I had them. I proved with geometric logic that anthropogenic global warming caused by CO2 emissions existed!

36 posted on 04/20/2012 4:14:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: struggle
the magnetic shifts in the Sun mimic those that occurred during the mini-Ice Ages of the 17th century

For the life of me I can never figure out how they know what happened 300 years ago when there were no instruments to record such events...........

37 posted on 04/20/2012 4:15:01 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Would I like to be young again? No, I worked too hard to get here, I don't want to do it again)
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To: Hot Tabasco

The evidence is in the polar ice core samples. Always the polar ice core samples.

Or tree rings...always the tree rings if the ice cores don’t pan out.


38 posted on 04/20/2012 4:19:44 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: colorado tanker

Ha! Good one!

Ol’ Yellowstain.


39 posted on 04/20/2012 4:20:51 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: hattend

If you ever go to the Gettysburg battleground, it’s fun to tell people that so many white people died to free the blacks, that it permanently changed the migration pattern of Turkey Vultures in the South.


40 posted on 04/20/2012 5:08:28 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Hot Tabasco
For the life of me I can never figure out how they know what happened 300 years ago when there were no instruments to record such events.

Even more amazing is the fact that they know exactly, down to the third decimal place, what the correction factor is for 200-300 year old recorded measurements, such as temperatures and tides/sea levels.

Using those correction factors, they can even prove that purported contemporary reports of the Thames flowing in winter are bogus: it was 2.795C too cold; it never thawed out year round until the Industrial Age created the beginnings of Global Warming. /sarc>

41 posted on 04/20/2012 5:13:32 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: struggle

It’s a shame that we have to rely on the Japenese for real climate science, instead of these kooks who want to burn our houses down.


42 posted on 04/20/2012 5:21:07 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Hot Tabasco

People observed things. And they wrote them down. These observations, such a water temps, air temps, sunspots, etc. can be used to infer relationships. It is not exact measurement, but cause and effect can be suggested.


43 posted on 04/20/2012 7:44:32 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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44 posted on 04/20/2012 9:33:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: PapaBear3625

So the sun is our “personal star” (according to the text at the site that you linked). How cute.

(Nice video, though.)


45 posted on 04/20/2012 11:40:22 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Rocky

I think they used magnetic signatures of volcanic rocks created and dated to periods in the past. Of course, my recollection could be way off.


46 posted on 04/20/2012 11:53:20 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: tom h
The scary thing about this oceanic carbon trap thing is that technology has reached a state where one can see these tings as possible in a fairly short period of time. When these fools find they can actually affect major phenomena of nature then we are probably looking at a real apocalypse to follow. It is like government finance men and supposed economists who think they can change economic laws with control and adjustments. All they can do in reality is destroy stuff. Results are never what they think they are working toward.

When man starts deliberately and seriously messing with Mother Nature then mankind's only hope for survival would be a collapse so profound that the technology becomes impossible before the planet becomes uninhabitable.

47 posted on 04/22/2012 12:58:55 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: arthurus

“When man starts deliberately and seriously messing with Mother Nature then mankind’s only hope for survival would be a collapse so profound that the technology becomes impossible before the planet becomes uninhabitable.”

But the earth is flat, riding on the back of a huge turtle, earth is the center of the solar system, and the center of the universe, Ice age is coming, and now global warming. Our conclusions have been so accurate in the past... (sarc)

With this record you would think we would be a little more cautious than to tamper with the planet which has been doing just fine for a couple billion years now.


48 posted on 04/22/2012 6:26:37 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Wildbill22

I use to think liberals just made up this stuff in order to enact socialism and redistribute wealth, but I am coming to the conclusion that they are just wimpy, whiny, paranoid, testosterone starved cowards that can’t deal with reality so they have to look for their own unique non-religious apocalypse, in order to replace religion and any bigger meaning outside their narrow little narcissistic world.

Yes the world is going to fluctuate, and we may have a new mini-ice age, but why panic? Buy a snowboard and stop fearing life.


49 posted on 04/22/2012 6:34:56 AM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hey big guy, great job on maintaining the list. I need you to go ahead and drop me off it though if you please.


50 posted on 04/22/2012 7:13:26 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Decriminalize concealed carry on campus! Facebook.com/ConcealedCampus)
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