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Posted on 04/21/2012 10:54:33 AM PDT by pabianice
Several weeks ago I received a letter addressed to "Resident." Inside was a 28-page American Community Survey form in which I was supposed to reveal to the government every detail about my life. Today, "Resident" received it again along with a threatening letter requiring me to complete the survey.
I intend to chuck this one, too.
Has anyone else had this experience?
What law did it cite and what was the return address?
Really good point.
What was return address?
Can please scan it up and make it available?
Can please scan it up and make it available?
I just changed my name to Guillermo Borrego...(a White Hispanic) a few days ago.
‘’I throw away every piece of mail that is not addressed to myself or my family personally.’’ Worst case is that someone comes knocking on your door (not going to happen) and asks you to complete the survey (which you refuse as you have no way to verify who this idiot is, and you require them to mail you a survey with your name on it, which they won’t do either...)
I toss the same mail whenever I get it.
As long as your name isn’t Resident I think you can ignore it safely.
"You'll tell us everything. Yes, I know you will."
US Census Bureau
PO Box 5240
Jeffersonville, IN 47199-5240
Thread on this from Jan.......
Respond with fire.
The American Community Survey (ACS) is an ongoing survey that provides data every year -- giving communities the current information they need to plan investments and services. Information from the survey generates data that help determine how more than $400 billion in federal and state funds are distributed each year.
What if I dont want those dollars distributed?
A family member also received that form in NY, requiring him to make available details of the size of his house, number of people in residence, utilities and all sorts of other data. He was led to believe it was about relocation of refugees from NYC in case of some future calamity.
The last census I just ignored the same survey. They kept sending different people to my house, I wouldn’t answer the door. One Saturday one of these ladies approached me while I was doing yard work in the front. I just pretended she didn’t exist; they had no training on how to deal with someone who wouldn’t even acknowledge their existence.
I did same. The lady came to visit but my front door is inaccessible, my first line of defense against JW’s, Mormons, and nosey gov officials. She talked to my neighbor about me but he said hellifino.
Address is apparently legitimate
I heard that the American Community Survey was a survey instrument developed by the Obama administration in order to keep track of population trends, demographic and geographic shifts, citizens’ political thoughts, addresses in order to send Obama campaign mailings and an address database of those who oppose the Obama regime so that they can be relocated when necessary.
Anything I get addressed to “Resident” is junk mail. All junk mail I receive goes in the trash at the Post Office. However, if I receive one of these, I’m going to forward it to Dingy “The Junk Mail Junkie” Harry Reid. I read that he has a thing for junk mail. He says that junk mail helps him keep in touch with the little people in the REAL world.
Perhaps we should all forward ALL junk mail to Harry Reid.
To his home, not his office.
Yes. This winter, the Census Bureau sent me a letter informing me that they would send me a survey. A week later, they sent another letter informing me that they had sent a survey. A month later, they sent me another letter requesting that I return the survey that they had sent. A few weeks later still, the survey actually arrived (naturally in Spanish, not my native English). After collecting the required information, I completed the survey as best I could and sent it back. Then the survey arrived in English, which I did not complete, fearing that the Census Bureau would find some discrepancy between my Spanish and English responses. The Census Bureau curiously has not contacted me for further questioning.
Well, they must not have liked that because they sent me another one. I filled it out the same way, basically FU. Haven't heard from them since, about three--four years now.
1. Take a red sharpy and write “Kiss My A$$” across the threatening letter before mailing it back
2. Fill it out as a minority single mother family with 30,000 dependents and an income of $30 billion. That ought to jack up their statistics.
Render unto Caesar, and all that.
I got the same thing from the Department of Commerce (Census Bureau) in 2009. The letter was addressed to “Current Resident.” I was selected for a household expenditure survey. They want to know how you spend every nickle every month. They want to see your utility bills, cable TV bills, even your ATM withdrawals. It is unbelievable. I told other people about it and almost no one believed me. I stonewalled them. They pounded on my door several times. I told them to f@*! off. I asked it they had a search warrant signed by a judge. Too bad I don’t have a large dog. The letters kept coming. They say they are from the government and they are here to help me. I sent the letters back with handwritten notes on them. I said I am sick with cancer. They don’t care. Finally after several months they gave up. I was prepared to go to jail rather than give in to this.
File it in the circular file. After all, it was delivered by the US Post Office. And things do get lost.
For some reason UStream is telling me it’s not available.
“ACS” from the Census Dept. has been around awhile...I haven’t had the “pleasure” of getting one yet, fortunately! Apparently there could be fines for not responding, but rumor has it that almost no one is actually fined. More from the Census Dept. “FAQ”:
“Do I have to respond to the American Community Survey / Puerto Rico Community Survey?
Yes. Respondents are required to answer all questions on the American Community Survey (ACS) to the best of their ability. Response to this and other Census surveys is required by law (Section 221 of Title 13, Chapter 7, United States Code). This chapter also contains information regarding offenses and possible penalties. According to Section 221, persons who do not respond shall be fined not more than $100. Title 18 U.S.C. Section 3571 and Section 3559, in effect amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221 by changing the fine for anyone over 18 years old who refuses or willfully neglects to complete the questionnaire or answer questions posed by census takers from a fine of “not more than $100” to “not more than $5,000.” “
We’ve gotten three or four notices, and one was pinned to our gate, the others by mail.
We burn them. Except the one pinned to the gate we left up for a few weeks to weather nicely.
In depth in-person interview, with follow-up calls.
I also remember them complaining that a Census call center was bugging them after 9PM on a Sunday night.
We they told me, I told them that I think ACORN got a contract to do that. Having some knowledge of call centers, I'm guessing that at best, they didn't flag the time zone, and at worst, didn't care.
Then they started stopping by. One time there was a young woman walking around our backyard, looking in my detached office, looking in our sheds and just looking around. One of my boys told me so I grabbed a 12 gauge shotgun, opened the door, pointed the shotgun at her, she turned pale and started screaming "I'm with the census bureau."
I told her to get out of my backyard and not come back. She still tried to get some questions answered but I kept telling her to leave.
When I have talked with the census bureau on the phone, they always tell me I'm required to completely fill out the forms or risk fines. I just tell them to fine me.
I've also asked what part of the Constitution says they can ask for all that personal information. They can only quote the Census or Enumeration clause.
So far I haven't had to pay the fine.
Even though we were threatened with a fine (after researching it we found no one has ever actually been fined) we decided to ignore it.
They visited and phoned us repeatedly.
The consensus is that after a 3 month period they stop. And that was exactly the time period it took for them to stop bugging us.
That was very funny!
I do believe Walken and Bernard McGurk were separated at birth. Did you notice the notoriously lazy Walken was reading off the teleprompter? And he was still funny.
Yeah they came by daily for about 4 months. They weren’t smart enough to discover my phone #. Because I live outside of town, here in AK I have no mail delivery to my house, and they never sent a notice to my PO Box. So the routine was the same every day: I would drive home and see a car parked down the road. I would drive into my garage and by the time I was in the house the doorbell would ring twice. I would never answer, and they would leave a slip on my front door requesting me to call a phone # and threatening that what I was doing was against the law. I never answered the door, never called the phone #, never removed the notices (I had a bunch of them on my front door), and if they caught me outside I ignored their very existence. Eventually they went away. I am sure as a result I’m on some Gubermint List. But I don’t care.
Do what I did. Be creative and have fun. I reported myself as an unemployed black lesbian CEO making 250K/year. Any numeric answer was answered with “other”, and values like pi, e, i, and c were inserted...
ALSO... the Census Bureau is prohibited from sharing ANY personal information with any other Federal Agency. Kind of hard to press a fine or charges if they can’t even release your name or address....
I received one about the 2012 election from the GOP. Lots of multiple choice type questions. I wrote four words on it and sent it back ...
book mark....I too have recieved 2 surveys mentioned in this post...tossed both in the circular file....
“...an unemployed black lesbian CEO making 250K/year.”
Census person/people blew through, literally everybody was not home, and the Census Bureau took the "town" off their maps.
Apparently, they didn't bother with follow-ups.
Hmmm, maybe that's why they are so harassingly insistent nowadays.