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Suggestions for a safe private email as opposed to gmail?
4/23/12 | Freemike

Posted on 04/23/2012 6:20:07 AM PDT by freemike

I'm looking for a alternative to gmail. Any suggestions for s safe private preferably free email? Or am I living in fantasy land.


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1 posted on 04/23/2012 6:20:11 AM PDT by freemike
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To: freemike

why not hotmail?
They’ve improved their security
plus it’s free


2 posted on 04/23/2012 6:22:15 AM PDT by YoungBlackRepublican
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To: freemike

No such thing as “safe” email without some pretty elaborate encryption being setup for both the sender and recipient(s).


3 posted on 04/23/2012 6:23:51 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: freemike

You are living in a fantasy ....

There is nothing private in the electronic world. Even here on FR if you are a monthly donor and use your FR email....it ain’t private if anybody wants to know what’s in it.


4 posted on 04/23/2012 6:24:20 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: freemike

HushMail


5 posted on 04/23/2012 6:24:58 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: freemike

If you want it to be completely secure, send it by courier. And then kill the courier. And the recipient. Then yourself, because you might blab too.


6 posted on 04/23/2012 6:27:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ('A man with God is always in the majority.' -- John Knox)
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To: freemike

Sorry; you’re dreaming.


7 posted on 04/23/2012 6:27:41 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: freemike

Hotmail seems to work fine.

SnakeDoc


8 posted on 04/23/2012 6:28:01 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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To: Bon mots
Hushmail just recently spilled its guts and opened its records for the police in some big internet drug operation.

There is no mail service that is completely safe.
9 posted on 04/23/2012 6:30:07 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: freemike

I use Juno for my throw-away accounts. Free and easy. Make as many accounts as you want. http://www.juno.com


10 posted on 04/23/2012 6:30:46 AM PDT by mirkwood (another rainy day in Maine)
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To: freemike

http://www.safe-mail.net/


11 posted on 04/23/2012 6:36:30 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas gerit ;-{)
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To: freemike

No email service is truly private.


12 posted on 04/23/2012 6:40:08 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: freemike

If you use Firefox, get the Leetkey add-on and send everything encrypted with AES or DES. Your receiver has to have the key. Then, even gmail or yahoo is “secure” unless NSA gets involved. All free.

PGP costs money, these days, but is more secure as far as crypto goes.

Might want to check teh terms and conditions of the mail carrier to see if they allow crypto.

ITExIVdt3zYBITAhITAhLSExNjAh1dzOxlG3PbwhMTMhtuFdT9GlLbGI+sDFITEwIYpJ/TLZX5Rx
OFAtKnRfkB+xXiZF7CExMSGC8IH0pS14hOwhMTMhITEyIajKEHJ+dqN+Wf+4Lbt/VBpJS4IU0GhI
ITEzIeAV3/UtaYBs6mHD7626BVrbBP3jxS1Su88Ihx7/4OaOLDymWgTILd9tY5YoS9nrjU8+rjli
w1ktIgRGITQ1IbCOc2nHu+IXDkzlZi0uP5xE622af8a86A8ZxmlGLVLXQZdo5HGDt/5qKT/ZNJQt
jSIn+Yu7SCUm9VcxR1PFNi0hMTAhe2Ot7NhSITEzIZciLNq7WyE5ISE5IS2++O0I8mh8XMNCrUB2
G4hBLeelHbF2VXFm8It/Bjo9SbMt0E8lwxHbSD7tm63N1fOYQy2T3fclm89K


13 posted on 04/23/2012 6:40:20 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: JoeProBono

Why would you expect to get something for free?


14 posted on 04/23/2012 6:41:43 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: freemike

If you can deal with paying a whole $32.00 or so each YEAR... The I suggest setting up a domain name with email service with 1and1.com . You can have most any email / domain name you wish. Your email could be yourname@yourname.com or whatever. They provide a good online web interface and simultaneously a pop3 capability you can use on your desktop. I have several accounts with 1and1.com and really like it. Nice thing is they have a darned good Spam Filter built in. Security? Seems fine to me ...


15 posted on 04/23/2012 6:42:53 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: freemike
download gpg
have all of your email correspondents download gpg
generate a private and public key.
send your PUBLIC key to all of your correspondents and required all of your correspondents send you their public keys
encrypt everything you send
require all of your correspondents to encrypt everything they send to you
when you've read the decrypted version delete it and save only the encrypted version.

That is the safe way. NSA can't break gpg encryption if done right. That's why the government hates it and tries constantly to restrict it, and have a government use only back door, etc. They don't want you to have any privacy.

16 posted on 04/23/2012 6:42:53 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Sudetenland

I was assuming that freemike was not going to be posting child porn, selling drugs nor communicating with Al Qaida...

ANYTHING you do on the net can be traced to you unless you war-drive with a dedicated machine and never send images taken with an iphone or device which geotags your pics...

Best is to not use the web to break the law.


17 posted on 04/23/2012 6:43:19 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: SnakeDoctor
I used Hotmail as a secondary account for about 20 years, then recently when I tried to sign on, my account had been "locked". In order to get back in, I was asked for my SS number, address, and phone number.

I declined, deleted all references to hotmail, and switched to mail.com.

So far - for a secondary account - I'm happy with that.
18 posted on 04/23/2012 6:45:06 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: freemike

LazamatazMail.com

Feel free to send naked pictures of your girlfriend, knowing that they are safe and secure.


19 posted on 04/23/2012 6:47:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Shut up and drill.)
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To: freemike

Nothing is “safe” anymore; it might be “free”, but it isn’t safe, and “they” can decrypt anything at NSA/DIA.


20 posted on 04/23/2012 6:51:31 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL! Be sure to cc: me, too!


21 posted on 04/23/2012 6:53:31 AM PDT by carriage_hill (I'd vote for a "orange juice can", before 0bummer&HisRegimeFromHell, gets another 4yrs. Can-> later.)
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To: Lazamataz
LazamatazMail.com

Feel free to send naked pictures of your girlfriend, knowing that they are safe and secure.

...okay... they're on the way...

Hillary underwear

22 posted on 04/23/2012 6:53:59 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Lazamataz
...sorry, couldn't resist...


23 posted on 04/23/2012 6:55:41 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: freemike

There is a way: GLSDO SPOR FKUS MIER AGDE PLKN RSHW LOWR ZPMJ RHPM POFO JQBK , But you will have to change it daily or it will be deciphered at Bletchley Park.


24 posted on 04/23/2012 6:56:19 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO WE ELECT AS PRESIDENT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT.)
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To: EternalVigilance

25 posted on 04/23/2012 6:58:26 AM PDT by tomkat (let's NEWTer the bastards !)
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To: freemike

Add one more to the “There’s no such thing as safe email” column. You should always regard anything send via email as though you posted it to a public message board. If you must send something by email, and you want it to be secure, use GPG or some other form of encryption. (GPG is the free version of PGP and can be run on Windows.)


26 posted on 04/23/2012 7:02:21 AM PDT by Redcloak (Mitt Romney: Puttin' the "Country club" back in "Republican".)
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To: EBH

not only is email not private, but those little tags on your snail mail guarantee that those are not privat either.


27 posted on 04/23/2012 7:07:42 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: carriage_hill
can decrypt anything at NSA/DIA.

Not true. gpg encryption with a 3 kb key is pretty safe.

28 posted on 04/23/2012 7:16:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: freemike

Fastmail. Free but I chose to pay $4.95/yr so I didn’t have to see ads. You can even pay more.


29 posted on 04/23/2012 7:19:06 AM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: freemike

You should have been supplied with an email address to go along with your Net service.. If not, check up on how much it it will cost extra (probably not more than $2-$5/month added to your bill).


30 posted on 04/23/2012 7:29:21 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: EBH

“Even here on FR if you are a monthly donor and use your FR email....it ain’t private if anybody wants to know what’s in it.”

It’s even worse than that! I’m not a monthly donor, and my name is not really Bogus Pachysandra. But this morning I received an email at my private home email address. It’s from YouGov, and it’s a survey request. Although it came to my email, in the body of the email is the greeting, “Dear Bogus.” Somehow mined from FR?


31 posted on 04/23/2012 7:31:26 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: mirkwood

Juno is still there?! :o I used it a decade and a half ago... I thought it went under though (along with bigfoot)..


32 posted on 04/23/2012 7:31:38 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: freemike

I have used Yahoo for years with no known problems. But none can be considered safe. I have for years put nothing in emails that I could regret later, no paper trail here.


33 posted on 04/23/2012 7:38:05 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Newt 2012)
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To: freemike
Oh.. there is one more that is very safe... People can't even find it if they aren't using TOR, as far as I know..


For example, THIS is the email address URL to the TOR mail... but you won't be able to access it using a standard browser (without using TOR)..


Check it out.. you might be interested ;)
34 posted on 04/23/2012 7:38:05 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: freemike

I’m afraid you’ll have to use a one-time pad, and it might get cumbersome.


35 posted on 04/23/2012 7:41:08 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: freemike
@Reagan.com
36 posted on 04/23/2012 7:55:05 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: freemike

What you don’t like having your email data mined and having targeted ads sent to you?

Setting up your own email server would probably be the only way to have some privacy. The emphasis is on the word some.

If your Server is setup to use TLS, then it automatically sends it encrypted as long as the receiving Email Server has TLS implemented. (Not all do).

But at least your emails won’t be data mined like GMAIL, Yahoo or HOT mail.

A 2nd less secure option would be to open an account on a secondary provider like your ISP. Their not as likely to be actively data mining your emails to send you targeted ads.


37 posted on 04/23/2012 7:55:15 AM PDT by desertfreedom765
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To: DBrow
PGP costs money, these days, but is more secure as far as crypto goes.

PGP does cost, but  GPG does the same thing, and is fully interoperable.

I've been trying to get people interested in encryption since PGP was a DOS command line program.

I've come to the conclusion that people just don't give a damn about privacy, despite what they claim.

38 posted on 04/23/2012 8:05:49 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: freemike
I used to use Sneak-e-Mail but they became a pay service so I went to another...Mail Null. It is similar in that it creates a temporary email address that is nothing more than an extra hop in the path that the email takes.

No more secure for long term usage but you can send an email and then delete the Mail Null address...thereby keeping any return email from reaching you. Your main address is then secure.

It helps in keeping Spam down but does not add much in the way of security overall.

39 posted on 04/23/2012 8:06:07 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I will not comply. I will NEVER submit.)
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To: ICCtheWay

I have a friend with this type of e-mail


40 posted on 04/23/2012 8:17:03 AM PDT by know-the-law
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Did you get any voter ID cards yet from the DNC?


41 posted on 04/23/2012 8:25:58 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: know-the-law

A Custom Domain name with email from 1and1.com (and other companies) is not totally secure - and it does cost a little money ... but it is better than dealing with Gmail and the other data miners. Plus - I kinda like having a domain name that I created to be used for my email...


42 posted on 04/23/2012 8:28:11 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: listenhillary

“Did you get any voter ID cards yet from the DNC?”

No. And I’m still trying to figure out how they got my home email address , using my FR nic.


43 posted on 04/23/2012 8:31:06 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: zeugma

PGP takes a little getting used to. Give people a mail program with encryption transparently built in, and I think they’d use it all the time with people they email with regularly.


44 posted on 04/23/2012 9:05:42 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: freemike

If it ain’t encrypted it ain’t private. Remember all internet traffic goes through at least 6 computers, you at best control 2, all the rest can be used to read the traffic.


45 posted on 04/23/2012 9:10:36 AM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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To: All
One other suggestion I'd offer is to make use of an email forwarding service like pobox.com. You create a "real" email address wherever you like, then have pobox.com forward mail to it. You never give out the underlying email address, so you can change providers as often as you like yet you don't have to send out change of address notices to people you correspond with regularly. I've been using this for 15 years., and have no idea what my 'real' email address is at the moment.

An additional benefit of this, is that it loosens the tie to your ISP. You can change internet providers fairly painlessly.

I use pobox.com, but there are several others out there. Google "email forwarding service" and you should find others. As a satisfied customer, I strongly recommend pobox.com though, as their spam filtering is really good. One drawback is that there will obviously be a slight delay in getting mail because email has to first go to them before it is routed to you.

Disclaimer: I have no relationship to pobox.com other than being a long-standing satisfied customer of theirs.

46 posted on 04/23/2012 9:27:27 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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47 posted on 04/23/2012 9:59:51 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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48 posted on 04/23/2012 10:02:33 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; freemike
For a temp Email I use 10 Minute Email from my Browser. Allows you to send email or sign up to sites and reply (you can extend the time-out in 10 minute intervals) and it totally dies after timeout.

As others have said - there is no secure way of transmitting anything on the Web. You can temporarily secure the contents, but the Headers are in plain view and traceable. Good luck.

49 posted on 04/23/2012 11:35:20 AM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Bon mots

I made a decal of the girl in lacy pink. She’s on my old Tele.


50 posted on 04/23/2012 3:02:34 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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