Skip to comments.America's poorest county: Proud Appalachians ... in region where 40% fall below poverty line
Posted on 04/24/2012 6:36:46 AM PDT by Daffynition
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Rich in the things that matter.
Right on, Daffy.
How’s that Great Society working? Not Tooooo Good!!!
I moved from my 45 year home of Seattle to a small farm in central KY last August. I am living the phrase "I gave up a high standard of living for a high quality of life." I LOVE it here. And you can live below the poverty line and still live very well indeed.
And then there is this:
Then according to leftist/Marxist ideology crime should be rampant.
I joke with my friends in Seattle about my move to central KY thusly: “It is just like Washington. You have some very beautiful homes and wonderful people and you have single wides with cars on blocks in the yard. Oh, and if you hear banjo music, you DO want to paddle faster.”
I didn’t like the article. While I don’t have a romantic view of Appalachia, the article goes out of its way to make the people look dirty and lazy — the captions under the first two pictures are “filthy” and “slovenly.” Then, of course, the comments portray a degree of prejudice that is disgusting. If they were comments about a black ghetto, they would be removed or reported as abusive but hey, we’re talking poor whites so its OK to say things like “why are these people allowed to breed” or “I bet you won’t get a full set of teeth among them.”
I didn't notice anywhere in the story where it mentions what the poverty line is?
Nor did I notice where it mentioned how many of these people are government dependents or how long they've been government dependents.
HOLY COW! I just went to the article. The first and third images are VERY much what the interior of my nearest neighbor’s single wide looks like, only my neighbors is MORE messy.
He keeps his lawn meticulous, though.
The guy that built the house we bought (It’s about four years old now), placed it on the property so he could not see the trailer. We’re on a plateau and the single wide is in the valley about 80 feet below, about 400 yards away. His kids are really nice. We do bike rides together.
There are communities like this in every state.
This country grows half of all pot and 90% of all Moonshine made in the USA. It pays no taxes on that income. Recently, charity clinics have closed their doors, because of how well the people of the region were doing financially.
IMO, even if you don’t have much money or an education, you still don’t have to live like a filthy slob.
There were times in my youth when my family was struggling & my dad out of work. But the house & yard was always spotless.
I have been to Appalachia several times. It amazes me that people would live like this.
It’s almost like there is some generational malaise that govern the lives of people who live there. People there seem not to give a damn about much of anything.
—There are communities like this in every state.—
You’re preachin’ to the choir on this one. But to use an analogy, every state has at least one city, but NYC is bigger than Sioux Falls.
I’ve seen this stuff in Washington state, but there is a LOT more of it here in KY, relative to the size of the population. Heck, one of my new best friends here is 15 years younger than me and when he was a kid they used an outhouse.
When I was a kid we lived in Washington, California, Texas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming. I thought back then that outhouses were something from the 19th century.
—Kentucky really is two or three states rolled into one.—
I think that is true of a lot of states. Washington is even more stark in that there is even a significant climate difference. California, likewise.
I’m gonna guess the film poster alludes to the fact that in rural Appalachia, there are places you DO NOT GO, & people you DO NOT MESS WITH, if you know what I mean.
I saw a sign in rural KY that said, “Be shot or be gone”. Never saw a Welcome sign.
Heck, those of us who live in cities, can drive to the ghetto and find similar situations also.
What exactly is the point of this article? The south side of Chicago is not its own county, so it can’t be cited as the “poorest” county in America based on the criteria used here. I have a feeling that the south side has more crime, in addition to the poverty cited in this article. But it wouldn’t be politically correct to do an article about life in the ghetto.
As it happens, I am right this minute reading “The Grapes of Wrath” and while some of it might be hyperbole, I don’t believe that any of the “Okies” (and I don’t mean that perjoratively)would romanticize the Dust Bowl or their migration to California where they were met with hostility, lack of jobs, and violence. Those people would trade their lives for ours in a heartbeat.
If nothing else, reading the book makes me profoundly grateful for what I have.
So, what’s the difference between this, and any of a dozen Democrat-Run, inner-city hell holes I can name?
OH YEAH, no random drive-by’s. The welfare culture is damning to both blacks AND whites, folks.
The movie is highly recommended by Fred Reed (fredoneverything.net) because it is in Boone county, where he grew up. He said it is very, VERY real and accurately portrays what goes on there. I have yet to see it but I’m trying to find a copy.
Second in an article by a UK paper. I’d like to see a US paper do a couple of articles on poverty and trashed cities in the UK.
Bingo. Perusing the pics, the only poverty I see there is in cleanliness - something not cured by money. Sure they don't have much cash (that's apparent), but they have no less in essentials than I grew up with. Wood stove? yup, that was our heat source (and backup for cooking) in cold NY winters. Pots & pans? obviously far more than they need, enough to make a buck off selling or re-purposing most. Shelter? yup, and some labor & free supplies (see pic of donated lumber) will keep it functional & pleasant. Clothes? keep 'em maintained & tucked in. Care for what you have, riches will follow.
Almost funny how, in comparison, tinyhouseblog.com and minimalissimo.com depict struggles to get down to that same level of simple living.
"Generational malaise". Perfect term. It's not lack of money or opportunity, it's the systemic "don't care" of a region.
I've had opportunity to see a lot of the world, and been to places where there is a common well for a village, no electricity, families living in mud-brick huts with dirt floors, children running barefoot [giggling] chasing metal hoops with sticks. I would not dare to judge who is happier....them or me.
**Be shot or be gone. Never saw a Welcome sign.**
A dear friend has this sign on all his doors:
**There is nothing on these premises that is worth dying for.**
**no one pictured is starving**
Nor did I see anyone morbidly obese, like I do here, in the checkout lane with their Cheetos and chips, soda and food stamps.
Makes me stop to think when the SHTF, what life will be like, in our tony little town, with these people who can not fend for themselves. Least these families in the hollow that are depicted can fend for themselves....here, affluence of any kind will be stolen by the have-nots.
originally an invite to a 2005 Corporate Party.
**Almost funny how, in comparison, tinyhouseblog.com and minimalissimo.com depict struggles to get down to that same level of simple living.**
So long as you are still within driving distance of a Whole Foods.
Obviously waiting to be drafted into L B Johnson’s WAR ON POVERTY while still drawing a gov’t check.
Proud Georgia hillbilly here.
Thanks for posting.
Toast to you!
I’m absolutely convinced that Poverty is all a state-of-mind.
My gosh, I thought the War on Poverty (1968) and all the billions spent since then were suppose to solve this. /sarc.
FUBO and the DemocRAT party.
“Abbreviated title: America’s poorest county: Proud Appalachians who live without running water or power in region where 40% fall below poverty line
...Rich in the things that matter.”
What’s the crime rate here, vis-a-vis places like Detroit or Baltimore?
Why is that?
If this is truly “America’s poorest county”, shouldn’t the crime rate also be the highest, because (as we all know, right?) “poverty causes crime”?
In any case, a good video by Darrell Scott:
You’ll never leave Harlan alive...
**"I've never been nowhere in my life where you can live any easier than right here in this part of the country." Neial Bowling**
Do you have running water? When I am *off-the-grid*, that's the hardest part.
The rainwater washtub...pretty much useless in the winter. Heh. :)
The poverty line is just a number. If your cost of living is less than your income, you will be OK.
“And then there is this: “
Indeed. Truly awesome documentary. Which is what makes me wonder if the families depicted in the UK article are as drug-riddled and dependent upon government handouts as the “Wild and Wonderful Whites of West Virginia”. I can guarantee you that all those “proud and independent” “Appalachian” folks depicted are 100% supported by a gazillion government programs paid for by taxes on those who actually work. I’d give it a 90% probability that drug abuse is epidemic there as well.
There’s no such thing as pride and self-sufficiency among the poor anymore. The poor, no matter where they live or the color of their skin, are now all wards of the state. The UK article is nothing more than romantic bullshit.
I remember watching some documentary or news story on the tv many years ago about poverty in Appalachia. They interviewed a number of people and many them complained that there were few to no jobs where they lived. Prompting the question: why don't they pull up stakes and get out then? Which is basically the history of the world. From the dawn of human civilization, when things got bad, people pulled up stakes and moved on to greener pastures. If the job prospects are poor where you live, and you don't want to relocate to where the jobs are, I have little sympathy for you.
Remember that guy I said lives below me in a single wide? He’s 15 years younger than me and looks 10 years older. He is also very excited that after failing in court many times, he finally got his disability approved. That’s right. The family is supported on his disability. He is also the brother of the local sheriff, who (fortunately) sees him for what he is)
On a side note, he mows the lawn at the base of my driveway for me. :-) People love to mow lawns around here. It is the local pastime. Beautiful, too.
Jed Clampett: What do you think Pearl? You think I oughta move?
Cousin Pearl Bodine: Jed, how can you even ask? Look around you. You live eight miles from your nearest neighbor. You’re overrun with skunks, possums, coyotes, and bobcats. You use kerosene lamps for light. You cook on a wood stove, summer and winter. You’re drinkin’ homemade moonshine, and washin’ with homemade lye soap. And your bathroom is fifty feet from the house. And you ask should you move!?
Jed Clampett: [ponders all this] Yeah, I reckon you’re right. Man’d be a dang fool to leave all this.
I have visited eastern Kentucky for many years and while this piece may have been correct 30 years ago, it seems wrong now
There has been dramatic change in the hollows off the roads. The roads them selves are much much different.
there are good 4 lane roads into the heart of the country.
Hazard was squeezed between the ridges in a narrow valley. Today a good road by passes the town and there is major, prosperous expansion.
Up US 23, the little towns have expanded up the 4 lane, very good road to the point they almost come together.
I have been up several hollows for quite a long way and find good solidly built and well maintained homes. There are of course trailers but they are in far better condition than years ago.
I’ve traveled about 15 miles off the hiway up a steadily narrowing hollow and up a ridge to a shop that rebuilds and exports Cat front end loaders. He gets his customers off the internet.
I’m certain there are still poor folks, but the change in my life time is truly remarkable.
Home viewing bookmark.
I am from Appalachia and want to go back. Most of the people there have a broad independent streak bordered by a deep distrust of the government. Ronald Reagan spoke for us when he said the 9 most frightening words are “I’m from the government and I’m here to help”. We’ve been the recipients of their “help” in the past. ;)
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