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Posted on 04/25/2012 6:37:11 PM PDT by dewawi
My God. Tens of TRILLIONS in unfunded liabilities for Social Security and Medicare and not a peep by the media other than Fox!
The government looted and economically gang raped the American people.
A good deal of this I attribute to the wanton slaughter of over 45,000,000 humans in abortions. Tens of millions of them are not here to pay taxes, need services, provide services, etc. Since Soc Sec is a Ponzi scheme, just where in the hell did they think the money would come from.
I understand that 30-40 years ago, 33 people were putting in money for each person getting Soc Sec. And now it's down to 3-1.
I really think we don't consider the awful damage these 45,000,000 abortions have damaged our economy . . . we just can't see these 45,000,000 contributors because they've been slaughtered.
And our so-called “representatives” sit by and do nothing but continue down the road to ruin!
We lost the republic our founders gave us LONG ago but no one, including myself, likes to admit the fact!
Who would have thought the GOP nominee would be a democrat.
And not just the money.
Grandparents used to live with their families and they loved new grandchildren and passed on wisdom and stability and God to the younger generations.
All lost due to social security.
Lead us not into temptation. We’ll find it on our own.
Well, as Nixon took us off of the gold standard in ‘71 with the observation “I am now a Keynsian in economics”—anyone who was paying attention. (Not me though—I was learning how to talk.) My Mother says it hit her when watching the results come in during the ‘64 election. Looking back—I’d say no later than Roosevelt’s third term we were headed in the wrong direction with no clear path for turning things around.
After watching Rumors of War III, Target U.S. I’m sure socialism isn’t the #1 enemy. Romney better be begging Col West to be his running mate because he 100% understands what’s going on.
I swore I wouldn’t vote for Romney but after this documentary I’ve changed my mind. Obama has to be thrown out. There’s no doubt in my mind that he’s following his Muslim roots all the way.
It isn’t tens of trillions of dollars but more like hundreds of trillions (about $130 trllion right now) for all unfunded liabilities.
Deficits of over $200 billion per bloomin’ MONTH, and a culture that has descended into a virtually unimaginable, mind-bogglingly putrid cesspool, and populace that has turned into government-dependent collectivists. And to top all that, the damned GOP is serving up a Massachusettes liberal as its presidential nominee.
Does have sort of an “end days-ish” tint.
My Momma told me when Nixon took us off the “Gold Standard”. She looked at me thru her cat eye glasses, “In your lifetime, you will see the $ become worthless. That’s when a dollar had two lines.”
Bingo on the abortion point! This why I think neither party wants to do anything about illegal immigration.
1960 Nikita Khruschevh - United Nations - We will defeat you from inside. (not the exact quote, but generally accepted as such)
1964 War on Poverty - Lyndon Johnson
1966 Times Magazine “Is God Dead”
1973 Roe v Wade
etc, etc, etc . . .
Its roots came in 1932 FDR New Deal?? arguably
LOL, good food gets more important!
Well since by 1972 the US had been attacked by the statists three times,
1. the progressive attack of 1913 to 1921,
2. the New Deal of the 1930s
3. the Great Society of the 1960s.
So if the US does not survive “hope and change,” I suspect not that many aware in 1972 will be shocked that it was a statist attack that finally did the US in.
Actually the republic was lost when one “honest” Abe Lincoln was allowed to walk all over the Constitution during the first 6 months of his first administration in order to prosecute his war of subjugation.
That opened the door through which every progressive since has walked.
I would agree that Lincoln opened the door—but Jefferson unlocked it when he decided to drop the proposed constitutional amendment that would have given the federal government the power to purchase land and to pursue the Louisiana Purchase under the power to make treaties. Economically, a great deal for everyone immediately involved—buying Spanish Territory from France for a steal—but making it much harder for the strict constructionists to maintain their position. If the federal government can find a penumbra of powers under the treaty clasue, what is to stop them from finding things in say, the commerce clause? If he had waited for the amendment to clear, we may or may not have ended up with the land, but he would have put strict constructionists in a much stronger position.
No argument from me!
The fact is that the republic has been undermined from the beginning but it was Lincoln who finally threw it onto the ash heap of history and converted it to the mercantile empire we now “enjoy”.
That set the table, but LBJs 'Great Society' with both un-capped and unfunded 'entitlements' took us over the top fiscally. (Aside from destroying families)
Yes, I saw it 40 years ago and I was still young and inexperienced. As they say, it's not the fall that hurts... it's the sudden stop. We are getting very close to that thanks to politicians promising everything to people even if there is no way to pay for it for the last 40 years.
I would say Lincoln through us toward the ash heap of history and that we landed there somewhere during FDR. Before Lincoln, things could have been stopped by good individuals. After Lincoln, leadership that was very good have turned things around. After FDR one would need leadership of a quality rarely seen in a fallen world. And after LBJ and Nixon it is a question of how long, not if. The how long could have been a lot longer though.
Points well taken.
Even now our republic could be restored but the hill is VERY steep and the road VERY long indeed!
BS. Under Adams, Congress passed the Alien and Sedition Acts. Andy Jackson created the Trail of Tears in defiance of the Supreme Court. Pierce took us into a bold faced war of aggression against Mexico.
No 'good individuals' stopped any of that.
I am not as optimistic as you are.
Once the framework of a human society becomes thoroughly corrupt, the society has to be run through a crucible and restructured before health is restored. God alone can change hearts, and at least on the level of society, this is how He operates.
If I were a Muslim or a Calvinist who held that how God interacts with the world may turn on a dime, or an ancient Jew looking for a Messiah to restore temporal greatness, I would have hope. But I am a Catholic theologian, firmly holding to what the Church terms “the economy of salvation”—God acts in broadly consistent ways throughout history that shed light on each other.
Republics require wide-spread virtue to operate well. Virtue when corrupted is only re-acquired through suffering. Corrupt republics facilitate the avoidance of suffering. If it were not for the spiritual realm, I would find things very bleak indeed.
I am not saying that good individuals did stop everything, but that the environment was such that they might have. And some things were stopped. For example, the Alien Act and the Sedition Act are no longer with us, and led to the election of 1800, which was a fairly good year.
“If it were not for the spiritual realm, I would find things very bleak indeed.”
Obviously the Republic is lost. Our ilk may be the majority, but we are neither the ruling class nor the talking class. Many of us find our peace and richness in our Lord and Savior. Nothing short of a bloody revolution will turn back the march of communism.
Oh, that is correct. In all their history of communism was there a bloody revolution.
Uhmmmmmm let it come sooner or later??
"And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering.
Then begins, indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man.
And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Sam Kercheval about reform of the Virginia Constitution, July 12, 1816; "The Writings of Thomas Jefferson," Definitive Edition, Albert Ellery Bergh, Editor, The Thomas Jefferson Memorial Association (1905) Vol. XV, p. 40
This also was well know among the founders.
No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.
Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775
"Nothing is more certain than that a general profligacy and corruption of manners make a people ripe for destruction. A good form of government may hold the rotten materials together for some time, but beyond a certain pitch, even the best constitution will be ineffectual, and slavery must ensue."
John Witherspoon, The Dominion of Providence Over the Passions of Men, 1776
If it were not for the spiritual realm, I would find things very bleak indeed.
I find solace there as well. I believe that the coming forth of this nation was a divinely inspired event and doubt that God will suffer the foolishness we see around us for much longer!
BTW: I very much like your screen name!
“.....just where in the hell did they think the money would come from.”
Thank you—thanks for the link as well, though my inspiration is actually the one for whom he is probably named. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome