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Lampreys from Great Lakes Destined for Queen's Pie (Britain's Queen Elizabeth II)
U-T San Diego ^ | April 27, 2012 | AP

Posted on 04/28/2012 3:38:46 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

Lampreys from Great Lakes destined for queen's pie

Monster

DETROIT — A few unwanted, invasive sea lampreys from the Great Lakes have been shipped to England for use in a traditional pie for Queen Elizabeth II.

The Detroit Free Press reports (http://on.freep.com/IdmZkP) the City of Gloucester, which has given the pie as a gift to the monarch since the Middle Ages, requested the eel-like creatures from the Great Lakes Fishery Commission because they're a protected species in England. The pie is for June's Diamond Jubilee, the 60th anniversary of the queen's ascent to the throne.

Commission spokesman Marc Gaden shipped 2 pounds of frozen lamprey from Lake Huron. He says Great Lakes officials "would prefer to send them truckloads of lamprey."

Lampreys got into the Great Lakes through Atlantic shipping canals in the 1920s and have threatened native fish since.

Queen Elizabeth II


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Recipe: 15th-Century 'Lamprays Bake' (sea lampreys)

'Lamprays Bake'

This is a translation into modern measurements from an old English recipe from the 15th Century called “Lamprays Bake” from “A New Boke of Olde Cokery,” a collection of medieval recipes by Rudd Rayfield.

Pastry dough for nine-inch pie crust

1 pound eel, catfish, or other fish filets

1/2 C brown bread crumbs (1/3 C if blood is used)

1/4 C wine vinegar (2T if blood is used)

1/4 C fresh eel or fish blood (optional)

1/4 C dry wine

1/4 tsp. each cinnamon and black pepper

Salt to taste

SYRUP AND SOPS:

1 C sweet wine

1/4 tsp. powdered ginger

3 slices firm white bread

1 T brown sugar, or to taste

1. Preheat oven to 400°.

2. Line a pie pan with the crust, and put it in the oven for ten to fifteen minutes to harden it. Remove it, and reduce oven temperature to 350°.

3. In a bowl, combine bread crumbs, vinegar, dry wine, cinnamon, salt and pepper (and blood if it is used).

4. Place the eels or fish in the pie crust, and pour the sauce over them. Cover the pie with heavy aluminum foil, with a few holes poked in it. Put the pie in the oven, and bake it for half an hour to forty-five minutes, or until the eels or fish are done. Remove it, and allow it to cool.

5. Remove the foil from the pie, and carefully remove the eels or fish from the pie, and arrange them on a serving dish.

6. In a saucepan, over low heat, combine half of the sweet wine with the ginger and brown sugar. Carefully pour the sauce remaining in the bottom of the pie crust into the saucepan. Bring the ingredients to a boil, and simmer, stirring frequently, for about five minutes.

7. Line the bottom of the pie crust with the slices of white bread, and pour over them the remaining sweet wine. Then pour the hot syrup over the bread and wine, and serve the sops in the crust, and the eels or fish separately.

Serves six to eight.

NOTES ON THE RECIPE: This pie is simply the container in which the eel (or fish) is baked; it is removed from the crust for serving, but then a sop of bread and spiced wine is put in the empty crust, and that is served separately. The sauce for this dish is similar to the blood sauce for fish, Sauce Pour Lamprey, but I have adapted it so that the blood is optional. Feel free to add it if you have access to fish blood. I also cover the pie with aluminum foil to bake, rather than a second crust, since the cover needs to be removed to get the eels (or fish) out anyway. I add sugar to the wine sops, which helps a great deal.

1 posted on 04/28/2012 3:38:55 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

“they’re a protected species in England.”

Are they insane? These damn things are a curse!


2 posted on 04/28/2012 3:41:12 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: DogByte6RER

ick.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 3:41:59 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
Nasty critters not to mention the $20 million or so dollars it costs every year to keep them at managable levels.

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4 posted on 04/28/2012 3:42:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER
Go stick yer cigar in one of those, Bill Clinton.
5 posted on 04/28/2012 3:42:59 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: DogByte6RER
Wretched creatures wiped out the indigenous white bass population in Lake Erie before they came under control. The lake is doing well these days but the lamprey sure earned its bad reputation as a useless but aggressive predator.
6 posted on 04/28/2012 3:43:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DogByte6RER
Feel free to add it if you have access to fish blood.

I just happened to buy a quart the other day. LOL
7 posted on 04/28/2012 3:45:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER
I prefer 'lamprey a la bordelaise', but I'm a sucker for anything with leeks in it.

The brits don't know how to cook.

/johnny

8 posted on 04/28/2012 3:45:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; DogByte6RER

they’re a protected species in England.”

Are they insane? These damn things are a curse!
________________________________________

I see a pattern here...

Moslems are also protected in England...


9 posted on 04/28/2012 3:52:43 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: DogByte6RER

I always add a bit more cinnamon and a pinch of nutmeg to my Lampray Bake.


10 posted on 04/28/2012 3:53:55 PM PDT by EDINVA (q)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Strange British meatpie recipe ...

ping


11 posted on 04/28/2012 3:55:07 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: cripplecreek
I remember back at the end of the 1950's ( I think it was then) when the DNR poisoned the Boyne River back to Boyne Falls in order to kill the lamphreys. I'd walk the river bank picking up all those dead suckers and putting them in a bucket. They were everywhere!

Of course as a 10 year old kid at the time, I never realized what a problem they were for the then limited fishing industry.........

I also remember seeing almost every trout caught from the river or Lake Charlevoix having a lamphrey attached to it or the wound marks on it.......It was an infestation.

12 posted on 04/28/2012 3:55:36 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: EDINVA

I actually like mine with a scoop of vanilla ice cream ... pie a la mode!

heh


13 posted on 04/28/2012 3:58:19 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Hot Tabasco
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The great lakes states support an enormous sportfishing industry (Something like $10 billion in Michigan alone) so I get pretty agitated with people who think these invasive species aren't an issue.
14 posted on 04/28/2012 3:58:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER
Strange British meatpie recipe ...
Evidently, lampreys >>>> blackbirds.
15 posted on 04/28/2012 3:58:55 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Bratch

4 and 20 lampreys baked in a pie....


16 posted on 04/28/2012 4:01:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER

A slimy parasite for royal. Perfect.


17 posted on 04/28/2012 4:09:41 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DogByte6RER

Egads, does she not know what happened to Henry I?


18 posted on 04/28/2012 4:11:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (SpaceX Dragon launch to ISS, Cape Canaveral AFS, May 7, 9:38 AM EDT)
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To: DogByte6RER

Yuck. Like I REALLY wanted to see a pic of Moochelle’s vajayjay.


19 posted on 04/28/2012 4:11:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: DogByte6RER

snapper bump


20 posted on 04/28/2012 4:21:04 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
They are only a curse in places where there are an over population of them. My tribe and surrounding tribes in N. Calif. and Oregon have been eating them for ever. I wish I had a couple of them right now. When I was young, my Gram would build a fire on the beach where my uncles were catching eels and put down some flat rocks, pull the hot coals over the rocks until they were hot and then fry the eels on the flat rocks just like a frying pan. She would also make a bread dough, pretty much like a fry bread recipe and dig a hole in the hot sand and put in the bread and cover it with hot sand and pull hot coals over the top and in an hour would have the most wonderful hot bread and eels you could imagine. Oh those childhood memories. The tastes and smells are still embedded in my mind.
21 posted on 04/28/2012 4:31:11 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: DogByte6RER
One of my fave shows is called The Supersizers Go . . . (sorry I don't know how to italicize) on the Cooking Channel. A food critic and a comedian live for five days in different periods of British history. The Reformation show was quit interesting! The shows can be viewed, in six parts each, on You Tube. It is a very interesting show for foodies or for history buffs!
22 posted on 04/28/2012 4:32:42 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Her Majesty can have them. Probably better than dog though.


23 posted on 04/28/2012 4:34:07 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
...sure earned its bad reputation as a useless but aggressive predator.

Can't be all that useless if they make a pie out of them, but I can empathize with those that are affected by the invaders.

Perhaps MI could ship a couple of thousands of tons of zebra mussels as an accompaniment?

24 posted on 04/28/2012 4:35:22 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
Perhaps MI could ship a couple of thousands of tons of zebra mussels as an accompaniment?

With a purple loosestrife and Milfoil salad. Maybe a giant hogweed garnish.
25 posted on 04/28/2012 4:37:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER

sometimes we alternate with a slice of sharp cheddar


26 posted on 04/28/2012 4:57:49 PM PDT by EDINVA (q)
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To: DogByte6RER
I'll take a raincheck,thanks.
27 posted on 04/28/2012 5:05:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: fish hawk

LOL the way you describe it that does sound good, now you went and made me hungry :)


28 posted on 04/28/2012 5:14:01 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: fish hawk

Sounds delicious! But here on Lake Erie, they’re considered to be a pestilence! I certainly would try them at least once. My Shanghai-born lady friend cooks regular black eels every once in a while, and they’re wonderful. Except she makes me clean them, and they’re a pain to clean! Made myself twice-fried belt fish for dinner tonight. Kind of an eel like fish. I bought the smallest one they had at the Asian market. 3 feet long!


29 posted on 04/28/2012 5:18:07 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Let’s capture all we can and Obama can offer them as his next gift to the Monarch.


30 posted on 04/28/2012 5:26:21 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: DogByte6RER

Lots more where that came from Liz. Take all you want!


31 posted on 04/28/2012 5:50:03 PM PDT by Poison Pill (Obama is the hopium of the masses)
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To: battousai

On the west coast, even though these eels come in from the ocean, they migrate up the rivers to hatch the young and are considered fresh water eels. There are ocean eels there also and they too are good to eat. There is a gray eel here in Maui that is good to eat and I have tried it several times. The Moray is not considered good eating as far as I know. The Japanese have a fresh water eel they put on their sushi and it is really good. Our Indians on the Klamath hook them with an “eel hook”. Its a handle of wood about as long as a golf club with a barb less hook at the end. They stand at the waters edge and the eels come up close to shore as to stay out of the strong current and also the seals and sea lions and the man hooks the eel and swings it around and around over his head and then throws it up on shore and the ladies put them into the gunny sacks. The reason for swinging them around is that with the barb less hooks, the centrifugal force keeps the eel on the hook until he tosses it. It is actually a lot of fun if the eels are running good. Now days some of the women go eeling but it was forbidden in the old days before the feminazis come around. LOL.


32 posted on 04/28/2012 5:52:30 PM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: DogByte6RER

I thought it was four and twenty blackbirds that they cooked in a pie for the king or queen.


33 posted on 04/28/2012 6:15:39 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: fish hawk

That sounds really good!
I haven’t had fry bread in ages!


34 posted on 04/28/2012 6:33:10 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: DogByte6RER; mylife

Thanks DogByte!
Ping to a fellow foodie.


35 posted on 04/28/2012 6:34:36 PM PDT by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: DogByte6RER

We used smelt net to scoop them out of the Cheboygan River and through them in bonfire. One of God’s nastiest critters.


36 posted on 04/28/2012 7:04:53 PM PDT by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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To: j_tull

nice proofreading... sheesh


37 posted on 04/28/2012 7:05:49 PM PDT by j_tull ("I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.")
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Click the link. The Republic you save may be your own.

38 posted on 04/28/2012 7:10:19 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: cripplecreek

MDNR: “Purple loosestrife is an aggresive inavsive species! How do we control it?”

Sierra Club executive: “You can’t poison it so you must use a natural predator. That natural predator is the Japanese Beetle.”

Japaneses beetle: “Wow, the leaves of flowering plants here in Michigan taste Soooooooo much better that that purple thing we are used to.”

Tah, dah!


39 posted on 04/30/2012 9:07:39 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
“Wow, the leaves of flowering plants here in Michigan taste Soooooooo much better that that purple thing we are used to.”

LOL as far as I can tell the beetles won't touch the loosestrife but they sure do like my wisteria.
40 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DogByte6RER

Its all a very traditional middle age recipe, but I think I’d give it a miss, thanks.


41 posted on 05/02/2012 6:43:44 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

ITs because theres not many of them left - they all got eaten.


42 posted on 05/02/2012 6:44:43 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: NonValueAdded

Or shakespeare for that matter. Didnt he die of “a surfeit of lampreys”?


43 posted on 05/02/2012 6:47:02 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: DogByte6RER

No way I’d eat one of those pies! ICK!


44 posted on 05/02/2012 6:50:30 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: Vanders9
Or shakespeare for that matter. Didnt he die of “a surfeit of lampreys”?

No, that is how Henry I bought the farm ( 1 Dec 1135), hence my post. Henry left no male heir and his death brought forward the whole Matilda / Stephen thing. Liz II has Chuckie as the presumptive heir. I hope she only nibbles on the pie.

45 posted on 05/02/2012 7:32:03 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (SpaceX Dragon launch to ISS, Cape Canaveral AFS, May 7, 9:38 AM EDT)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Similar to British muslims.


46 posted on 05/02/2012 7:38:31 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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