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'Your' Car Won't Be After 2015
The American Spectator ^ | April 25, 2012 | Eric Peters

Posted on 04/30/2012 5:10:46 PM PDT by Twotone

Mandatory "Event Data Recorders" will even know you're speeding in reverse.

After a certain point, it's not paranoia.

The latest brick in the wall is the predictably named "Moving Ahead For Progress in the 21st Century Act," also known as Senate Bill 1813. (See here for the full text of the bill itself; the relevant section is 31406.) This legislation -- already passed by the Senate and likely to be passed by the House -- will impose a legal requirement that all new cars made beginning with the 2015 models be fitted with so-called Event Data Recorders (EDRs). These are the "black boxes" you may have read about that store data about how you drive -- including whether you wear a seat belt and how fast you drive -- ostensibly for purposes of post-accident investigation.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: 21stcenturyact; barbraboxer; blackboxes; boxer; edr; legislation; senatebill1813
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To: Twotone

This bill is HUGE!

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text

( I glanced through it for a while - there’s got to be other stuff buried in there)


21 posted on 04/30/2012 6:23:19 PM PDT by libertarian27 (Check my profile page for the FReeper Online Cookbook 2011)
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To: Trod Upon

I predict lots of broken sensors, and increased used car resale value.


Ever wonder about the reason for “Cash for Clunkers?”


22 posted on 04/30/2012 6:23:37 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Twotone

The reps have probably started and invested in a few after market black box repair and reprogram corps already.


23 posted on 04/30/2012 6:36:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (I trust Sarah Palin,Dick Cheney, Cain, Perry,Rush: Anyone but Obama,because I trust their judgment.)
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To: Twotone

If you have a car built in the last several years, chances are it already has the Event Data Recorder. My 2003 4Runner has one, my wife’s old 2003 Camry had one. And her new 2009 Sienna van has one too.

Many manufacturers have been voluntarily adding them. You can find links to see what makes, models and years have them installed.

What I read about them is that they are tied into the airbag systems. Disable the EVR, and you disable the air bags too. I’m sure someone could find a way around that though.


24 posted on 04/30/2012 6:52:18 PM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: whd23

Then they will make it illegal to disable them.


25 posted on 04/30/2012 6:59:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Twotone
It isn't a Red Barchetta but yeah, I'm a white-haired uncle and I got a country place and a hot car under a tarp in my garage. I ran it the day before yesterday and it still sounds sweet.

We'll be flipping them off before we have to shoot them, I think. The latter is a dirty little job I don't want to leave for my nephew.

26 posted on 04/30/2012 6:59:28 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: libertarian27
Barbara Boxer also put this gem in the same Senate bill 1813:

Forget Travel If You Owe The IRS

You won't be able to travel outside the US.

27 posted on 04/30/2012 7:10:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Twotone

Should this ever come to pass, I’ll bet politicians will be exempt somehow.


28 posted on 04/30/2012 7:37:02 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: carriage_hill
why is our republican congress going to pass this crap....

who the hell is on our side anymore..???

29 posted on 04/30/2012 7:59:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: zencycler

a site said that toyota started putting these things in 2004 camrys, of which I have one....how do I check to see if it has one of these boxes?


30 posted on 04/30/2012 8:04:43 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

The bill is going to committee where the Rs are jamming the Dems for now.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/house/223769-house-votes-to-negotiate-highway-bill-with-senate

Hill.com - “The failure of Rahall’s (Rat) motion [it expedited the Senate bill in the House] leaves open the chance of a House-Senate conference that lasts through June, since funding for federal highway programs expires June 30 under current law.”


31 posted on 04/30/2012 8:40:48 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Twotone
Not going to happen. The American people have just about had it with this government.
32 posted on 04/30/2012 9:13:35 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: precisionshootist

Bookmark


33 posted on 04/30/2012 10:40:21 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Twotone
Pssssst: Cell Phone | GPS Jammers.

Pass it on!

34 posted on 04/30/2012 10:45:42 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: Twotone

What an idiot. He write a long column on the subject of monitoring and does not even mention the mileage-based tolling possibilities...which is the ultimate goal of this system (and supported by a lot of IDIOT conservatives).


35 posted on 05/01/2012 12:25:29 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Twotone

Wait until you are pulled over by a cop using one of these new *License Plate Scanner Computer Readers* ...and when the cop is removing your plates, arranging for your car to be towed...while you try to explain that the data in his *system* is wrong. Fun stuff Amerika.


36 posted on 05/01/2012 12:46:59 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: cherry

“who the hell is on our side anymore..???”

Only WE are on OUR side, anymore; THEY left us many, many years ago.


37 posted on 05/01/2012 3:07:12 AM PDT by carriage_hill (((.)))
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To: carriage_hill

“As a rule of thumb, Congressional legislation that is bipartisan is usually twice as bad as legislation that is partisan.”- Thomas Sowell


38 posted on 05/01/2012 11:54:37 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Jailbreak and re-flash your car’s firmware.


39 posted on 05/01/2012 12:11:54 PM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: BobL

“mileage based”- another Ray LaHood idea...isn’t he a “republican” ? or is he a former republican...

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/southern-california-area/635403-good-luck-passing-smog.html

Read some of the comments in that thread. A few years ago, I remember CARB saying that they can lower the emission requirements of new cars but can’t change what the requirements were for old cars. (Basically, it’s not fair to try and make a car run lower emissions 20 years later than it had to pass when it was brand new.) I guess they changed their mind. Complete BS,yet typical of CA and Boxcar’s ilk.


40 posted on 05/01/2012 12:13:25 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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