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My doctor recommends that I have gastric bypass surgery. Any one know anything about this procedure or have had this performed on them?

I'm not so sure I want to do this.

Please advise...

1 posted on 04/30/2012 9:02:43 PM PDT by Randy Larsen
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Depends on the procedure. I think they’re doing more “banding” instead of the old staples.
There can be many adverse, unpredictable health problems related to absorbtion.
If you are restricted to meal portions and food selection, you would be better off doing a diet...temporary suffering instead of long term health problems.
Have you done a web search of Gastric Bypass testimonials?


2 posted on 04/30/2012 9:11:52 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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I would add that many gastric bypass patients who do not change their eating habits become overweight in spite of the surgery.
You are wise to be cautious.


3 posted on 04/30/2012 9:15:32 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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I would not do it.

There is a solid 3% mortality rate with this surgery. Roughly one in 33 chance you are not alive coming off the table.

Personally, if you need to lose weight, best thing to do is trick your body into being full. Plenty of fiber/expanding things you can buy that fill up the stomach, you just have to eat them 20-30 minutes before meals. Konjac root fills and also curbs appetite. there are other herbs and stuff that decrease your appetite. Eating higher fiber veggies like carrots and celery help bulk things up and help deal with appetite.

Gastric bypass is generally considered last resort. I would try everything else before it because for me I would not risk it.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 9:15:49 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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I know about 3 people (closely) who had it. A very sweet lady had it 10 years ago at about age 50. She has done well with no relapse and appears to have made a life-change.

A younger, poorly disciplined girl also had it about 10 years ago and is now seriously overweight again.

The 3rd freind had it about 5 years ago and has done well.

All 3 had problems with getting enough protein and proper food management. Forever eating small and often.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 9:16:25 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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I would add that many gastric bypass patients who do not change their eating habits become overweight in spite of the surgery.
You are wise to be cautious.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:08 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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I would add that many gastric bypass patients who do not change their eating habits become overweight in spite of the surgery.
You are wise to be cautious.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:38 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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I try to stick to meats and vegetables.
Grains will plump you up (sugar too)

I love me some bread but I give it up for beer.

Good luck


10 posted on 04/30/2012 9:25:04 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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Oh, and try to stay away from “refined” products

God, made us the perfect supermarket.


15 posted on 04/30/2012 9:34:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Mases Could Be Farts)
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RNY is a relative safe procedure, and very effective.
As far as eating your doctor will most likely tell you eat protein first then fruits/vegis, then carbs.
Is there risk of course, but it is not as risky as staying overweight.
It is just a tool not a miracle.
The actual risk is about 1%, however compared to being morbidly obese the risk is low.
I know people who have had banding and surgical reducing the stomach size, both over five years have lost he same weight but the banding takes longer.
One thing you will find is that most people giving you advice know nothing to little of the procedure except what they read, for some reason there is an anti surgery approach to weight loss.
This surgery has helped thousands of people live longer and healthier lives.
God’s speed.


16 posted on 04/30/2012 9:35:02 PM PDT by svcw (If one living cell on another planet is life, why isn't it life in the womb?)
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I worked with two woman who had the surgery done. I would suspect it depends on if you’ve done everything else without success. ..and just how much weight you need to take off to better your health. Since you’re DR. recommended it it would seem this might be the case...your health is at risk.

Both woman did very well as they had a strong support system at home and work....and they were mentally prepared for the discipline which was required to remain with the program.

Also both had serious health issues prior had they not gone this direction and might not be here today. Both did loose the weight, but then had to deal with the great amount of excess skin. One had insurance which covered further surgery to remove it...the other did not.

I think also what helped them is they made it known in the workplace...so we were all encouraging and helping where we could.

I wish you the best in what ever you decide...and I’d certainly get two or three Dr.’s opinions before I’d agree to it...as well as all options.


17 posted on 04/30/2012 9:41:02 PM PDT by caww
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Hi Randy,

My wife has gone through a similiar procedure called Vertical Sleve.

Where the Gastric Bypass will alter your anatomy (Intake and Outtake Digestive process physically) the Vertical Sleve will leave everything intact and in it’s anatomically correct positions and simply decreases the size of the stomach. There are therefore no malaborption issues nor food getting stuck as there is in the Gastric Bypass.

Before gettting this operation done, my wife did a lot of research on the different types of operations available.

Let me know if you need anymore information and I’ll see if she can help you.

on a side note, at the time, insurance would not cover the Vertical Sleve, that may have changed now as this was 5 years ago.

BTW, she has been very happy with the results and the surgery was not invasive as it was done laprascopically(cameras with small incisions).

Hope this helps.


19 posted on 04/30/2012 9:42:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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I know a coworker who had it. She lost a lot of weight, really quickly, but she said she was miserable. I think there are some procedures that can be done laparoscopically, which if successful have quicker recoveries.

Don't know what your other issues are, but a lot of big guys are hellacious snorers, too. My father was extremely overweight, had extremely bad but untreated apnea, and died of congestive heart failure at the ripe old age of 45. If you know you snore, then please have a sleep study done, as well. If you have untreated apnea it will be extremely hard to lose weight and keep the weight off. A sleep deprived body looks to food to make up the energy deficit and it becomes a vicious cycle of apnea, eating and weight.

If you have untreated apnea, you should talk to your doctor about treating that first, along with a weight loss regime. My father never got on a CPAP machine, but a couple of friends got on them and the change was remarkable and allowed them to lose weight.

25 posted on 04/30/2012 9:47:54 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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I have some experience here. I had a daughter who considered it and THANK GOD she did not do it. We only found out later that she had stomach issues that might have cost her her life.

One of the major problems with stomach surgery of this sort is that it does not take care of the root of the problem and that is a behavioral eating issue. After the stomach is stapled, reduced or banded, many (if not a majority) eventually graze their way to obesity again.

I urge you to try everything you can before embarking on this. The doctors love to push this procedure and it is just one more elective procedure to them, but it is a painful and possibly life threatening event for the patient.

We had great success with Lindora for her. There are also support organizations like Compulsive Eaters Anonymous. Try doing things with out the knife. It is the harder, but easier way.


26 posted on 04/30/2012 10:01:35 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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I see some people posting the no carb diet suggestions. I just lost 20 lb. on a paleo type diet with about 15 lb. to go. Since the doctor is recommending surgery I'm sure that seems like a drop in the bucket for you, but it didn't take much effort on my part and I dropped the weight over just a couple months.

I think the reason the diet worked for me was that I didn't have to count anything. I ate three meals plus two snacks a day and cut out a bunch of food that was hurting me. The biggest culprits were the sugar and the carbs. I am now eating more fresh food that I have ever eaten and feel great.

I would also echo what other people said about having a support system at home and work. Not having a family member or coworker shove cookies under your nose is pretty important.

27 posted on 04/30/2012 10:04:17 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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Bad move. Even if you have the surgery you will still be a prisoner of diet and exercise for the rest of your life. So why not skip having your gut cut open and get into a program of healthy eating and regular exercise. You will feel better with more energy and have a healthier lifestyle. If you smoke stop now!

No matter what people tell you there is no easy path to losing weight and staying healthy.

28 posted on 04/30/2012 10:11:18 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM)– Some North Texas researchers believe they have found a way to control obesity by manipulating molecules in the heart.

Researchers at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas have demonstrated, for the first time, that the heart can regulate energy balance.

“We discovered a protein that’s expressed in the heart, it’s a protein called MED 13, and it turns out that this protein regulates metabolism in the whole body,” explained Dr. Eric Olson, chairman of molecular biology at UT Southwestern.

Dr. Olson said researchers fed mice a high-fat diet, then ‘turned on’ the protein and were genuinely surprised.

“Of course we went back and said ‘wait a minute we better check this again’ and have done it many times,” Olson said, “It was really unexpected. We didn’t go into this looking for a way to treat obesity, it just was a serendipitous observation.”

Of the test Dr. Olson said researchers learned, “We can make them resistant to obesity,” but that wasn’t all, “We can also treat many of the other aspects of abnormal metabolism like the struggle to lower cholesterol and improve glucose handling in these animals.”

Researchers said despite their high-fat diet the mice stayed lean as long as the protein was ‘activated’. When the protein was removed the mice become obese.

Olson said they’re now using the protein to develop an obesity drug that might also be used to combat high cholesterol and Type 2 Diabetes. But researchers say that drug is still a long way from even being tested in humans.

If you can wait five years the the better option, may beBariatric Surgery and that removes almost the entire stomach.

Try Eisenhower Hospital Rancho Mirage CA, web site, bet you can get some pictures.

29 posted on 04/30/2012 10:33:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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don't! it is nuts and so are the Dr's that propose and do it! Learn self control and dealing with stress at www.copingstrategiescd.com. Come on now, you really shouldn't even need to ask about that absolutely insane thing that doctors do that messes with god's system. You have to often take supplemetns just because your digestive system will not works completley if you do that!
33 posted on 04/30/2012 10:45:14 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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Two negatives:

1). Some important parts of nutrient digestion will be gone to you forever. I don’t know exactly what, but you may never be nourished with real food nutrients again.

2) super fast weight loss, such as that from gastric bypass OR super fast extreme exercise and calorie deficiency like on the Biggest Loser, can release too many toxins from the fat too fast, and possibly force you to end your life with a neurodegenerative disease like Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, or Gehrig’s.

All gastric bypass does is “bypass” your changing your diet. Forget exercise, it’s not the way to go for weight loss, though your regularly moving is good, but you don’t need aerobics or heavy workouts. Have you tried giving up all starchy foods? Go paleo?

If you could give up sugars and fake sugars and grains, you can enjoy clean, healthy animal meats, fats, and vegetables to your heart’s content. You will lose weight slowly. It’s the sugars in everything that do you in.

Paleo starts with a BAB, a big ass breakfast. Make as many eggs in butter as you want. Make vegetable omelettes, or fried eggs, add cheese, enjoy. Have with it bacon, or steak, or whatever meat you like. Fill up. No juice, no fruit, no potatoes, no toast. Try it tomorrow. See how long you go that day without hunger. Then eat another meal of protein and veggies. If you crave some kind of sweet, eat only berries, sweet potatoes, or rarely white potatoes. Add fat to your potatoes.

I do think you should read up on Paleo — maybe some Robb Wolf — and try it before you go in for surgery.

Good .uck, hon. The SAD diet is making everyone too fat. We have t learn outside the box to counter it. Don’t worry about exercise. Just try and fill up on delicious healthy animal protein, fat, and veggies.


36 posted on 04/30/2012 11:00:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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I have two friends who have had it done.

One for the shear weight problem and the other for a host of other health issues.

Seemed to work for them but I can’t imagine doing it. Your diet is severely curtailed and drinking? Not a good idea.

I would rather get on stairmaster and be done with it.


37 posted on 04/30/2012 11:01:53 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I have researched the various typs and have spoken with my internest about it. He told me any time I want to pull thr trigger.


38 posted on 04/30/2012 11:40:05 PM PDT by BigCinBigD
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