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F-22 Pilots Donít Want to Fly the F-22
Gizmodo ^ | May 1, 2012 | Sam Biddle

Posted on 05/01/2012 11:25:46 AM PDT by Daffynition

Not exactly a grand gesture of confidence: some of the US Air Force's airmen, the world's most elite, want nothing to do with the Air Force's "elite" new fighter. Why? Because the only people it's threatening are its own pilots. ABC News reports, shockingly, that the admission came from within the Air Force itself—the Pentagon isn't usually a font of mea culpas:

Gen. Mike Hostage, commander of Air Combat Command at Langley Air Force Base in Hampton, Va., told reporters that a "very small" number of pilots have asked not to fly the fifth-generation fighter jets or to be reassigned.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: aerospace; f22
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1 posted on 05/01/2012 11:25:48 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

I thought F-22s we going to TDY to the UAE soon?


2 posted on 05/01/2012 11:29:59 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Ping.


3 posted on 05/01/2012 11:31:30 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Daffynition

If so, then the modern USAF pilots have gotten pretty wimpy. They’d wet themselves at the thought of an F-104...


4 posted on 05/01/2012 11:32:09 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: Daffynition

Yesterday, it was how the F-35 is a terrible platform. Now, its the F-22. What the heck has happened to manned military aviation?


5 posted on 05/01/2012 11:34:16 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: Daffynition
That's like when we switched from Hueys to Blackhawks in the Army. I don't recall a single flight where I didn't have a caution or warning light come on or some sort of a problem with the damn things. Almost every single flight ended in a precautionary landing. Had a few electrical fires in flight as well. That's why I jumped at the opportunity to fly the boring Army fixed wing missions the second a slot opened up.
6 posted on 05/01/2012 11:35:18 AM PDT by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: RexBeach

I don’t blame them. The plane has a serious issue with its oxygen system. This won’t affect their readiness though. There are still plenty of pilots willing and able to fly the plane.


7 posted on 05/01/2012 11:39:00 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Daffynition
A beautiful, flowing design. When I see an F-22, it reminds me of this:


8 posted on 05/01/2012 11:40:17 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Daffynition

Mission commander: Alright, ladies! Who wants to pilot the flying deathtraps (aka F-22) for today’s mission?

Hand raises in the back: I do! I do! If I run out of O2 I’ll just roll down the window!


9 posted on 05/01/2012 11:40:20 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Daffynition
Air Force leader says some pilots want to avoid F-22 because of oxygen-deficit problems
10 posted on 05/01/2012 11:40:51 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; tx_eggman

Those TAMU grads... whoop!


11 posted on 05/01/2012 11:43:39 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: UCANSEE2

My first thought also. What a fine-looking airframe that is. From a decidedly unqualified point-of-view, I’d love to fly one. Damn, us Americans do make some pretty fine military aircraft. Functionality may be a problem that has to work itself out, but it is always going to look good doing it’s job.


12 posted on 05/01/2012 11:44:57 AM PDT by RonInNaples
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To: Daffynition

Glad to see...them using Red Neck duck tape on that baby!!!


13 posted on 05/01/2012 11:48:13 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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To: Daffynition

Is that bondo or strips of duct tape on top of that jet?


14 posted on 05/01/2012 11:51:15 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

is someone pushing drones?


15 posted on 05/01/2012 11:55:07 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mr Rogers

It’s one thing if you know a plane is a bear to fly.

The air supply/blackout issue is not yet fixed and I can understand this is a problem that can happen and you not be aware of it until you’re nodding off and blacking out. It is also intermittent so you never know if or when it will happen.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 11:57:26 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Daffynition

It’s so expensive, they will get in career-ending trouble for ejecting if there is a problem.


17 posted on 05/01/2012 11:58:46 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr Rogers

One can reasonably assume that after having 30+ more years experience building jets since the f-104, that it should not be like flying an f-104.


18 posted on 05/01/2012 12:00:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: RonInNaples

Look it up.

Every time...and I mean every time a major weapon system is being developed there are articles and complaints.

Same as these for f-22 and f-35.

Too costly, too complicated, cost overruns, wrong for the mission etc. Every time.

See M-1 abrams, f-15, f-16, Osprey...You name it, there are the same complaints. Usually coming from those who hate the military and cover their true intentions by saying they are just “looking out for the troops” or “looking out for the peoples money”. When the truth is they hate the military and spend every dime that’s sent to Washington.


19 posted on 05/01/2012 12:01:58 PM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Oh, just another example.

B-1 bomber.

You ever seen one of these fly? Beautiful.

I was at Lake Martin one summer day, on a boat close to the dam. Along comes this B-1 flying low and slow. Looked a lot like a huge f-16. Anyway, that thing just pulled the nose up, hit the gas, and it was just.....gone.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 12:11:20 PM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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