Skip to comments.A Second Look at the Mosin-Nagant Rifle
Posted on 05/02/2012 8:44:25 AM PDT by dynachrome
My rifle is a round receiver Tula, 91/30. I was lucky enough to get one with an excellent bore, bolt, and all the accessories (oiler, tools in cloth wrap, sling, bayonet and two ammo pouches), while paying only $90 in-person. $80 online is still a perfectly fair price, even after transfer and shipping -- though I would advise anyone purchasing multiple specimens, or other qualifying weapons, to consider a Curio and Relic license, if that is in your interest.
The rifle's main detriment that I've determined thus far? The sights. They're not bad -- though I'm biased, and apparently an abnormality when it comes to American shooters raised with traditional American guns, for the most part. However, the majority of my open-sight shooting since adulthood has been with an AK variant, which has very similar sights, anyway. That doesn't change what they are, though; crude, dark, and on some guns, not even adjustable to make your point-of-aim the same as point-of-impact. A $5 part fixes this, and I suspect that the better quality sample you acquire, the less likely the phenomenon is. If you're new to Russian sights, try to remember that it's something you get used to. There's nothing directly 'wrong' with them; they're not always as precise, and they're just different.
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How does/would a Mauser or Springfield ‘03 compare to the Mosin?
I have read the Mosin is one of THE weapons to have WTSHTF.
I have two, one i’m currently converting with modern stock, bolt, scope and other goodies. I’ll post some photos later.
--H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
While the rifles aren't light, they're very well-balanced. A fiberglass stock would help, but again, I don't recommend getting that simply because of the price. Recoil is stiff, but not overly so. If you've fired a .30-06 in a similar configuration, a 91/30 is nothing new. Carbine variants will blow your hat off and singe your hair, though. While they're very cool, I find the longer rifle makes more sense because of the role I'll be describing for it to fill -- and again, because it's much less expensive than its smaller cousins.
I take issue with this.
The "carbine" variants will NOT blow your hat off, will NOT singe your hair, in fact recoil firing the same ammo is not significantly greater.
Get a good 'cheek weld' with either one, and you'll be fine.
Several years ago, I got a 1937 Moisin-Nagant with a star bayonet. Because of its nasty kick, I had to put a cushion on the stock.
I bought a suppressor for mine ($20 at a gunshow). It goes on and twists to lock behind the front sight band and then locks with an allen screw.
After several shots, all of which missed the targets by a country mile, the damn thing blew up in my face. Each bullit was clipping the inside bore on the suppressor until one caught. Pieces broke my glasses, lacerated my eye and eyelid and put a big gash in my brow. The biggest piece launched about 50 yards.
I recovered completely and there was no damage to the Mosin.
that looks like a Finn M39. There is a lot of 7.62 x 54R
about, 30-06 is getting somewhat dear and hard to find.
I like my 03A3 a lot and the sights are wayyy better than the ones on my Kar98K.
Does the rear sight show meters, or arshins?
What is superior about the Finnish m39 version?
“suppressor for mine “
Muzzle brake you mean, and yeah, they are useless/dangerous. I threw mine away. Your basic mosin is quite safe as it was made for Ivan the illiterate peasant to use. The ‘safety’ is almost unuseable. Other than that, it is a great rifle!
I think my Mosey is great, best $75.00 I ever spent.
“lose the bent bolt”
Bent bolt would mean someone was setting it up for a scope.
If the rifle has a “CH” above the serial#/crest, it was designated as accurate enough for a sniper setup by the soviets. If it has filled in holes on the inside of the receiver rail, it may have actually been used as a sniper.
Complete straight bolts here:
a good ‘cheek weld’
And don’t hold it loose on yer shoulder!
The Finns put beefed up stocks on old mosin receivers,shimmed the barrels, and put better sights on them. Many were given new barrels, also.
these guys about cornered the market on them at one time. Expensive!
I picked up two of these fine rifles, the hex receiver version, for the price of $99.00 a piece. I paid an extra $10.00 per for “hand select”. The vendor was J&G. (I have no affiliation with them other than as a very satisfied customer.)
Both rifles were in very good condition although they did require a good scrubbing to get decades of cosmoline off them. Both of them go “bang” just fine and I’ll report that the recoil on them isn’t nearly as bad as my Mossberg 500 shooting slugs.
For the money they’re the best value that’s been on the market since those Ishapore Enfields were around a few years back. If anyone is considering purchasing one of these I’d recommend it highly.
They’re damn fine SHTF rifles. Ammo is plentiful and cheap. I got a tin of 440 rounds at Cabela’s for $95.00 out the door. So that’s a rifle AND 440 rounds of ammo for less than $200.00 You can’t beat that with a stick.
Get good and tight with it, and it won't hurt you. Same with your M1, M1903, Enfield No.4, K98, Win Mod 70, Rem 700, etc.
“vendor was J&G”
I recommend them also. I have bought ammo and a very fine 1939 Tula Nagant pistol from them.
Let me know. I can provide pics and specs.
My zombie gun is going to be the 91/59 carbine (soviets reworked some 91/30s into a carbine configuration in 1959 for some reason) I acquired.