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New Link From Supernova to Life on Earth?
5440 Or Fight! ^ | May 2, 2012 | Devon Watkins

Posted on 05/02/2012 10:21:22 AM PDT by Twotone

Through the Royal Astronomical Society in London the Danish scientist Henrik Svensmark released new scientific evidence in the last week that has not yet hit the mass media. This new examination could revolutionize the way that we view our world’s climate and even the history of life on Earth. Professor Svensmark examined the history of how supernova’s close to our solar system occurred over the last 500 million years. He compared this supernova history to our well known history of the number of different species on Earth over that same time period and found a remarkable correlation.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatechange; climategate; climategate2; cosmicrays; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; supernova
Interesting!
1 posted on 05/02/2012 10:21:28 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

Whatever it takes to get God out of the picture. /s


2 posted on 05/02/2012 10:26:12 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Twotone

It is interesting, but correlation does not equal causation.


3 posted on 05/02/2012 10:27:40 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Twotone

Wow, you just can’t make this stuff up ... or maybe you can.


4 posted on 05/02/2012 10:32:28 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Twotone
The meat of the article involves further confirmation that the cosmic ray level affects cloud formation, which affects the amount of sunlight that gets reflected away, which effects Earth's temperature.

It turns out that the solar magnetic field (which shields Earth from cosmic rays) may have a lot more to do with our climate than man-made CO2.

5 posted on 05/02/2012 10:33:25 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Former Fetus
Whatever it takes to get God out of the picture.

First, IMHO, GOD is not in the picture, he is the picture.

That GOD has the different wavelengths of energy created by Supernovas affecting the makeup of the life forms on Earth which thrive on energy of all types, shows that GOD knows more about creating life than we do.

In regard to scientists, most of them see something like this as another 'wonder' of GOD. The media ignores them, and publishes only the views of the hardcore atheists, because it sells laundry detergent.

6 posted on 05/02/2012 10:34:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Twotone

Gee and all this time I thought God created the Earth in 7 days. Silly me.


7 posted on 05/02/2012 10:35:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Former Fetus

Which it doesn’t.

Who created the stars that go nova?

I personally see no reason why God is prohibited from creating a universe that then runs according to His rules and produces results that even He might not have anticipated. This includes, IMO, the possibility of his using evolution as one of his tools for generating diversity in the biological world.

I think of it as the physical equivalent of free will in intelligent beings.


8 posted on 05/02/2012 10:40:02 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: PapaBear3625
It turns out that the solar magnetic field (which shields Earth from cosmic rays) may have a lot more to do with our climate than man-made CO2.

The thing that protects us from the Sun, is made by the Sun. We live in the 'flame' of the Sun, not 'outside' it, and the Solar/Mag field is the only thing that keeps our planet from looking like Mars, or possibly a roasted marshmellow.

The real problem we have, which Global Warming Alarmists ignore, is that the Magnetic Field of Earth is getting weaker.

9 posted on 05/02/2012 10:41:48 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Sherman Logan
I think of it as the physical equivalent of free will in intelligent beings.

Yeah, but even the angels warned GOD that the 'free will' thing could get way out of hand.

10 posted on 05/02/2012 10:46:37 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Wow, you just can’t make this stuff up

Everything is just 'made up'. Some of it, after repeated tests turns out to be true. Much of our speculation about the workings of the cosmos cannot be tested, and with the complexity of GOD'S Universe, no one answer is 'the answer'.

Earthquakes, for instance, are caused by a multitude of factors, both from the planet itself and from the rest of our solar system.

11 posted on 05/02/2012 10:57:26 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Twotone
This 'idea' is not new.


12 posted on 05/02/2012 10:59:42 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2

Which is sort of the point.

If God made creatures with free will, it’s because he didn’t want automatons. He wanted friends, not toys or machines.


13 posted on 05/02/2012 10:59:59 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
He wanted friends

Well... how did that work out?

14 posted on 05/02/2012 11:05:34 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Gee and all this time I thought God created the Earth in 7 days.

Back before the 'heavens and the Earth', a day had a 'different' meaning. But... we have free will and choose to ignore the obvious. Like the Lost Tribe of Israel walking round the same mountain in the desert for twenty years.

15 posted on 05/02/2012 11:26:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Twotone
This new examination could revolutionize the way that we view our world’s climate and even the history of life on Earth.

IOW, everything we thought we knew about this is probably wrong. Until the next revolutionary discovery comes along. Then this will be wrong, etc., etc..

16 posted on 05/02/2012 11:39:07 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Twotone
One is that cosmic rays, like all ionizing radiation, can cause mutations when it or more likely a gamma ray it causes hits DNA and messes it up.

Hulk smash!

17 posted on 05/02/2012 11:58:35 AM PDT by frithguild (You can call me Snippy the Anti-Freeper)
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To: Twotone
"Professor Svensmark examined the history of how supernova’s close to our solar system occurred..."

Damn, I hate to be a grammar Nazi, but writers just lose me when they abuse apostrophes like that.

18 posted on 05/02/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

I agree. It looks ignorant.


19 posted on 05/02/2012 1:19:54 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Former Fetus

Are you suggesting God didn’t create the Universe?


20 posted on 05/02/2012 1:34:28 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: UCANSEE2
There are whole shelves of books that relate magnetic pole flipflops with everything else that's ever gone on.

Only thing I ever pulled out of them that looked pretty much hard core reality was when you get a flip you can expect the start of the next glaciation pretty soon ~ and that would be in line with cosmic ray thesis as well.

So, more cosmic rays getting through charges up atoms that make sulphuric acid molecules that make more clouds that reflect more Sunlight and it gets colder.

If we double or triple the effect with a pole change on Earth, bet that's a humdinger of a coldwave ~ BTW, we are about 5,000 years overdue for the next glacial advance anyway.

21 posted on 05/02/2012 1:39:18 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Twotone
Notice how there's that extraordinarily large rise in nearby supernovas that brackets the TWO snowball Earth events we know of since life developed beyond the level of bacteria, etc.

The current trend is also up ~ and we are already in a 2.5 to 3.0 million year long active Ice Age.

Time to start firing up the bacteria to terraform Venus!

22 posted on 05/02/2012 1:48:09 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Twotone

23 posted on 05/02/2012 2:07:20 PM PDT by dragonblustar (PETA. President Eating Tasty Animals)
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To: Former Fetus; Twotone
NY Times commented on this in a very negative article...FR thread:

Clouds’ Effect on Climate Change Is Last Bastion for Dissenters

24 posted on 05/02/2012 5:10:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...

fyi


25 posted on 05/02/2012 5:15:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: All; Twotone
Henrik Svensmark PDF Link:

Evidence of nearby supernovae affecting life on Earth

26 posted on 05/02/2012 5:42:13 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming HOAX is about Global Governance)
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To: Windflier

Thanks Windflier! I removed the apostrophes :).


27 posted on 05/02/2012 6:22:09 PM PDT by devinwatkins
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The theory has been around for some time now, but that’s ok. Lots of folks get a lot of things through these posts that they normally would not obtain.


28 posted on 05/02/2012 6:40:32 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


29 posted on 05/02/2012 11:34:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Henrik Svensmark site:freerepublic.com
Google

30 posted on 05/02/2012 11:35:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 75thOVI; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; ...

Thanks Ernest.


Thanks .




31 posted on 05/02/2012 11:35:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That NY Times article does not in any way talk about the effects of cosmic rays on clouds. Only on the belief by some scientists that clouds would act as a reverse feedback mechanism slowing any increase in temperature.


32 posted on 05/03/2012 10:26:16 AM PDT by devinwatkins
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To: muawiyah
was when you get a flip you can expect the start of the next glaciation pretty soon

As long as we agree that a 'flip' doesn't happen quickly. It takes time. A long time. And that is when Earth may be unprotected.

Once it has 'flipped' 180 degrees, then things will be back to normal.

I will, however, have been dead for 10,000 years.

33 posted on 05/05/2012 11:07:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Gee and all this time I thought God created the Earth in 7 days.

Actually, it was 7 minutes. It's just that GOD thought nobody would believe it.

34 posted on 05/05/2012 11:09:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: jimt; Windflier
It looks ignorant.

Yes, but only to those with a proper education.

35 posted on 05/05/2012 11:10:48 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
The geologic evidence is that it's already underway before you realize it ~ business about building new fields while the old fields are withering away. That's why the folks who engage in the study of the Earth's magnetic field got so excited a few years back when the North magnetic poll started heading toward Russia at 80MPH.

I think some folks believe these magnetic field changes happen like 3-phase electric motors but they don't.

36 posted on 05/06/2012 8:28:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: UCANSEE2; jimt

Apostrophe misuse and abuse has become something of an epidemic. It was once rare, and mostly something youngsters were guilty of, but I’ve watched the frequency of misuse increase quite a bit over the last several years, and now see these errors committed by even educated people. It’s still a turn off for me, no matter who does it.


37 posted on 05/06/2012 11:26:53 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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